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Trump calls Putin 'genius' and 'savvy' for Ukraine invasion by sourmash
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From Yahoo News. There's more reading at the site.

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday described Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as “genius” and “savvy," praising his onetime counterpart for a move that has spurred sanctions and universal condemnation from the U.S. government and its trans-Atlantic allies.

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show." "He used the word ‘independent’ and 'we're gonna go out and we're gonna go in and we're gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that's pretty savvy."

Trump's praise for the Russian president comes at a perilous geopolitical moment in Europe, where the Kremlin has amassed thousands of troops along the Ukrainian border. Already, Russian troops have invaded breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine that the Kremlin recognized as autonomous earlier this week. That recognition, as well as the subsequent invasion by Russian forces, prompted the U.S. and its allies in Europe to impose what President Joe Biden called "the first tranche" of sanctions against Moscow.

The comments from Trump also fit into a personal pattern of relatively warm rhetoric for Putin, especially compared to the abrasive approach that the former U.S. president employed in dealings with NATO and other U.S. allies. Trump repeatedly refused to accept the conclusion of the U.S. intelligence community that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, at one point telling reporters at a joint press conference with Putin that he had accepted the Russian president's assurance that the Kremlin had not been involved.

Trump's 2016 campaign and its alleged ties to Russian interference efforts in that year's presidential election were the subject of an investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller, a probe that Trump routinely derided as a "witch hunt." Mueller's report described numerous contacts between Trump's campaign and agents or allies of the Russian government, including solicitations for assistance, but said the evidence was insufficient to conclude that Trump or his team coordinated with or conspired to support the Kremlin's election interference effort.

Trump has long claimed that Mueller's report exonerated him and his campaign, but Mueller, in remarks to the press about his report, emphasized that his team had not cleared Trump of wrongdoing and that "if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so." And Mueller repeatedly emphasized that his investigators were unable to access key sources of evidence and were inhibited by false testimony — some of which led to criminal charges, including against longtime Trump ally Roger Stone, who was ultimately pardoned by Trump just before facing jail time.

Trump, in his Tuesday radio interview, played up his relationship with Putin and said "I think nobody probably knows him better in terms of the discussions that we have or that we’re having this morning."

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Report this Post02-24-2022 10:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Did you actually hear what 45 said?
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Report this Post02-24-2022 02:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Declaring it independent and saying they were going in to keep the peace is basically lawyer speak to me, covering his butt on paper. "Here is what happened here is what we did". Politicians lie, its what they are good at.


Be the judge of possible real reasons

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Tell me you don't get sarcasm, without telling me you don't get sarcasm.

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Report this Post02-24-2022 03:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ya that story sure feeds the hungry. "More trump news tell us more about trump being bad." Likely all the folks convinced of the media hype the past couple years before during and after Trump was prez are convinced Trump wants whatever Putin wants. I'm not sure what could be said that would change their mind, even if truth came from Biden or Obama or Hillarys mouth.... or Pelosi?
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Report this Post02-24-2022 03:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FatsSend a Private Message to FatsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I think a person would have to be a fool to think that Putin is stupid in any way.

You can be evil and smart.

You don't control an entire country the way he's done for so long and be stupid.

Nothing he's done has ever seemed stupid to me. It's all been calculated and very smart. He's buying the dip again and again so to speak. Has he done anything in the past decade that put his position as the leader of a world superpower in danger? No, all he's done is cement his position.

And the move into Ukraine? He outsmarted most of the world.

I've got an evil sister, truly evil, like I hope nobody here ever has to deal with. And smart. Scary smart... And savvy. But still completely evil. All these things can be, and are true at the same time.

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Report this Post02-24-2022 06:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Let's just put this here.

Something to read for those that are curious.

http://www.zzwave.com/plaboard/posts/3968357.shtml
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Something else for those with curiosity.

https://amgreatness.com/202...ns-predictabilities/
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Let's just put this here.

Something to read for those that are curious.

http://www.zzwave.com/plaboard/posts/3968357.shtml


 
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“As a result, it is pivotal that Russia and China work together in this domain. Already, there is growing collaboration in strategic technologies in a number of areas, including aviation, military, and space, as a result of the challenge posed by the US. But semiconductors also need to be in the picture.”


Both have been members of BRICS for a while now and collaborate on quite a bit of stuff. From what I understand they have their own private communications network between all the BRICS countries. Nobody pushed them together, they came together because they have commonalities.

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Originally posted by sourmash:


From Yahoo News.





You could have just stopped right there.

Yahoo "news" is about as "unbiased" as the Democratic Underground website and about as accurate as MSLSD

I have Yahoo set as a "home page" on one of my browsers so that I can occasionally check on some of the latest Lunatic Leftist horseshit and trash.

The depth of Yahoo's continuing TRUMP fixation is truly astonishing and more than a little weird.

Scan down the long list of articles on the page and about every 3rd one is another stupid leftie TRUMP!!! screed.

To hell with "long Covid", it's "long TDS" that will eventually kill those whackjobs.


 
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There's more reading at the site.





There's "more reading" for people who aren't capable of separating opinion and propaganda from objective fact.

For the rest of us it's just more crap.


I fondly remember a time when real news media would simply tell me what someone said and then *I* get to decide if what they said is "praising" or not.

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How do you win a war?

Break the supply chains
Demoralize the people
Wait for a weak leader that has never been tested

Social media, paid for news, cutting domestic energy programs, running small businesses out of business and locking down citizens.
Sound familiar?

Is it a perfect storm or is there something going on behind the curtain?
When the guns do come out it will already be too late.
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The events playing out with Russia, and soon China, have been planned for quite some time, with willing cooperation from the Radical Progressive Left and well placed individuals in our government.

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It's a positive thing if Trump calls Putin savvy and genius. Because at least one of those is true.
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The Nation's Trump Signal !
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The good old days, that which Putin wishes to relive, Military Imperialist invasions of their neighbor's capitalist success, peaceful success.
' I dare you to nuke Russia ! ',
as he moves his tanks, repeating the Wehrmacht's errors, again, with the same eventual result, in Nuremburg.
Moscow and St Petersburg in ashes, the retaliations deflected, the supersonic torpedoes before that, the technology arms race lost decades before.
Putin assassinated !
Peace is restored !
The enemies of the west laid down their arms, signaling to orbiting satellites their surrender by placing white bed sheets in the form of a cross on the ground outside their ' Palaces ' entrances, 20 meters square.
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It's a great scenario, but, many millions of civilians must perish before the obvious conclusion of humanity's end.
A perilous future for the E.U. in the next few weeks, Poland, Germany overrun, France held to ransom, Spain too is occupied, the Gibraltar Strait seized

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Oh !
Oi ! How the Russian people will weep upon the death of Putin, the great restorer of the failed USSR, to fail again, the former Russian Empire of Stalin a smouldering desolation in early spring.
War !
A psychopathic megalomaniac, a narcissist with hurtful memories, triggered by the wealth and success of the west, gambling, wagering that nation's existence on the certainties reported by his agents in high offices of NATO, USA, Joint Chiefs of Staff.....all of it, totally, fully penetrated.

What will Biden_Joe do ?
He will do nothing, as ordered.


сука блять !
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30 trillion in national debt.

There are only 2 ways allowed to get out of that. Steal everything you have or a war large enough to reset the economy in a way that they can default but still maintain the strangling hands on the rest of the world's neck.

America is a failed empire. America is that drunk woman at the bar/restaurant that you've been seeing who talks too loudly as she dominates the conversation with her weird opinions and Russia is just sick of her chit.
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30 trillion in national debt.

There are only 2 ways allowed to get out of that. Steal everything you have or a war large enough to reset the economy in a way that they can default but still maintain the strangling hands on the rest of the world's neck.

America is a failed empire. America is that drunk woman at the bar/restaurant that you've been seeing who talks too loudly as she dominates the conversation with her weird opinions and Russia is just sick of her chit.


I looked up Russia.

They have $64 billion in international debt, though they have $630 billion in reserves.

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30 trillion in national debt. There are only 2 ways allowed to get out of that. Steal everything you have or a war large enough to reset the economy in a way that they can default but still maintain the strangling hands on the rest of the world's neck.

America is a failed empire. America is that drunk woman at the bar/restaurant that you've been seeing who talks too loudly as she dominates the conversation with her weird opinions and Russia is just sick of her chit.



No worries, mate. I'm Keynesian.

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I looked up Russia.

They have $64 billion in international debt...


Yeah, that's like half of Elon Musk's wealth in debt? There're probably financial and political reasons for it. Russia has a metric chit ton of bullion gold. And we all know how much a metric chit ton is.

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