When I let my eyes focus on a "randye" message, I see and hear a totalitarian mindset. He has no interest whatsoever in civilized online conversation. He conducts himself here like an idiot--to borrow the very same word that "olejoedad" decided to use against me, just the other day.
It isn't worth my effort to enlarge on this assertion and turn it into some kind of point-by-point explanation, essay or "chalk talk." I've already done that, numerous times before. If anyone isn't already "woke" about this by now, they never will be.
WOULD YOU LIKE SOME CHEESE TO GO ALONG WITH ALL THAT WHINE?
Maybe we could interest you in some dark sunglasses so that you aren't blinded by your NEON RED NEGATIVE RATINGS BAR
Complain, whine and blame other people all you want to but YOU earned it.......nobody else caused it......not even your imaginary Nazis
On the up side though, it looks like you're rapidly headed for that "total eclipse" you want....just not the way you expected.
Now call us NAZIS!! again.
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As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today only 535 individuals], (<1.7 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 35 individuals, (6.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".
As of today only 20 individuals, (3.7 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 20 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.
As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
FBI Director Christopher Wray issued the following statement [on January 7] regarding the [Jan. 6] violent activity at the U.S. Capitol.
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The violence and destruction of property at the U.S. Capitol building yesterday showed a blatant and appalling disregard for our institutions of government and the orderly administration of the democratic process. As we’ve said consistently, we do not tolerate violent agitators and extremists who use the guise of First Amendment-protected activity to incite violence and wreak havoc. Such behavior betrays the values of our democracy. Make no mistake: With our partners, we will hold accountable those who participated in yesterday’s siege of the Capitol.
Let me assure the American people the FBI has deployed our full investigative resources and is working closely with our federal, state, and local partners to aggressively pursue those involved in criminal activity during the events of January 6. Our agents and analysts have been hard at work through the night gathering evidence, sharing intelligence, and working with federal prosecutors to bring charges. Members of the public can help by providing tips, information, and videos of illegal activity at fbi.gov/USCapitol. We are determined to find those responsible and ensure justice is served.
"[Under] the guise of First Amendment"--that's a phrase that any online messages board player or pundit could well stockpile for many a future occasion.
UGFA !
Shorten it to "Under the Guise" and maybe it's a band name?
"Well played, Chris!"
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FBI Director Christopher Wray issued the following statement [on January 7] regarding the [Jan. 6] violent activity at the U.S. Capitol.
[QUOTE]The violence and destruction of property at the U.S. Capitol building yesterday showed a blatant and appalling disregard for our institutions of government and the orderly administration of the democratic process. As we’ve said consistently, we do not tolerate violent agitators and extremists
who use the guise of First Amendment-protected activity to incite violence and wreak havoc.
Such behavior betrays the values of our democracy. ......
"violent agitators and extremists"......Is That so?......WOW
Here's a short list for Prissy Crissy Wray to start with for his arrests and prosecutions of "violent agitators and extremists" who "use the guise of First Amendment-protected activity to incite violence and wreak havoc."
As soon as he opens up the hotline I'll be happy to help out and add A FEW THOUSAND MORE
We MUST get these"violent agitators and extremists" LOCKED UP....NOW!.
You LEFTISTS are such compulsive MORONS.
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As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today only 535 individuals], (<1.7 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 35 individuals, (6.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".
As of today only 20 individuals, (3.7 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 20 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.
As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
It's a labor of love.....Love of freedom, love of my country and love of the TRUTH.
When the top law enforcement officer in the country uses TITANICALLY STUPID political language like he did you know your freedoms and your country are at risk.
Ignorant LEFTISTS cheer and applaud the kind of moronic crap that Prissy Chrissy excreted.
That's why we saw it licked up and vomited back again here, 6 months after he squeezed it out.
It's almost as if former George W. Bush speechwriter and Atlantic magazine staff writer David Frum has been lurking here on Pennock's and wants to become part of this conversation. This new op-ed for The Atlantic is so "on point" in terms of this Pennock's conversation, it redefines "point." It sharpens the focus to "crystal clarity", to reprise the introduction to the old Outer Limits TV series.
"Don’t Let Anyone Normalize January 6"
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If you can shrug it off as just another incident of Trump talking too much, then you have already signed up for the next incident—and the one after that.
This campaign [to minimize the significance of the Capitol breach of Jan. 6] derides Trump’s failed putsch as a shambles and a farce, an “altercation,” a protest gone wrong, a coup that was no coup. It amiably suggests that nobody need worry about the events of January 6 overmuch.
To support this project, one must isolate the attack on Congress from the rest of the story of the 2019–20 presidential election. Trump was impeached in 2020 for extorting Ukraine to deliver disinformation to help him against Joe Biden. He was impeached in 2021 for inciting an attack on Congress to stop Biden from taking office. Those were two separate crimes, but they emanated from the same scheme.
And that scheme was not some solo lunacy of Trump alone. It’s not Trump who is systematically ending the political careers of every Republican who has stood up for democracy over the past year. That’s a broad effort almost universally supported in Trump’s party.
Nor is it Trump alone who is rewriting election laws, Trump alone who is exonerating and celebrating the January 6 attackers, Trump alone who is shutting down any investigation of questions about that day, such as “Who paid for the January 6 attackers to come to Washington in the first place?” Those too are broad efforts almost universally supported in Trump’s party.
Excerpt:
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The post-Trump right has a style as distinctive as its authoritarian substance: trolling, ironic, evasive. It expresses itself in rhetorical questions, in false alternatives, in sleights of phrase, in mocking deflections. It does not openly declare its intentions, in part because it does not dare to—and in part because it itself does not yet fully know. Those of us who have walked away from this betrayal of our earlier beliefs can discern the resemblance to the fascism of the last century. But those heading toward the new destination do not see so clearly, distracted as they are by the wisecracks that they are tweeting as they trudge.
That's a thumbnail description of a certain (other) Pennock's forum member.
A third capitol police officer has been found dead of suicide. That is obviously sad and unfortunate, but it also seems a bit odd. I don't know what to make of it.
I know some will jump immediately to the easy answers, based on their preconceived notions about what "really happened". I don't care about that. Does anyone have unbiased insight?
A third capitol police officer has been found dead of suicide. That is obviously sad and unfortunate, but it also seems a bit odd. I don't know what to make of it.
I know some will jump immediately to the easy answers, based on their preconceived notions about what "really happened". I don't care about that. Does anyone have unbiased insight?
I have no insight into that situation, in fact it's the first I've heard of it.
I also have no idea of the total number of capitol police officers that were directly involved in the January 6 riot but I do wonder at what point the number of mounting suicides cease to become "odd' or "coincidental" and become something else*.
* I am NOT promoting or even suggesting any "conspiracy theories". In 2019 a national total of 288 law enforcement officers took their own lives. That number was up from 172 in 2018.
I have not yet found any reliable numbers from 2020.
EDIT: The NLEOMF only counts line-of-duty deaths, and suicide isn’t considered in its annual law enforcement fatalities report. According to Blue H.E.L.P. (honor, educate, lead, prevent), a law enforcement suicide-focused nonprofit that supports fallen officers’ surviving family members and records LEO suicide statistics, 173 law enforcement officers committed suicide in 2020. https://coffeeordie.com/202...-enforcement-deaths/
Three suicides inside of 6 months within one police organization out of all the police departments in the United States (1.74%) suggests that there may be an issue there.
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As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today only 535 individuals], (<1.7 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 35 individuals, (6.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".
As of today only 20 individuals, (3.7 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 20 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.
As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
The count now stands at four capital police officers who committed suicide and they all worked in the special division office. Nothing from mainstream media.
The count now stands at four capital police officers who committed suicide and they all worked in the special division office. Nothing from mainstream media.
I think it is unfair to assume that any suicide is related to the Jan6 trespassing. People do this stuff for lots of reasons. That of course IF the report is true or accurate. Our human nature causes us to ask "why?" And this is perfectly fine because it may help others get out of a potential suicidal mindset. I am interested in hearing opinions of why Capitol Police might be suicidal? What would make a person in this job so depressed? Lots of jobs have very high stress, what is it about this one sets it apart? Again, I do not assume the Jan6 had anything to do with it,......but I can't honestly rule it out.
I think it is unfair to assume that any suicide is related to the Jan6 trespassing. People do this stuff for lots of reasons. That of course IF the report is true or accurate. Our human nature causes us to ask "why?" And this is perfectly fine because it may help others get out of a potential suicidal mindset. I am interested in hearing opinions of why Capitol Police might be suicidal? What would make a person in this job so depressed? Lots of jobs have very high stress, what is it about this one sets it apart? Again, I do not assume the Jan6 had anything to do with it,......but I can't honestly rule it out.
People commit suicide for a wide variety of reasons.
Personal or family health issues. Financial issues. Mental health issues. Marriage or relationship issues....You name it...
It's unwise to assume that any of the 4 alleged suicides had any causation in common.
We can hope that the House January 6 Hearings... Anecdotal Storytelling and Leftist Political Muckraking Sessions...don't stoop so low as to drag the grieving family members of the deceased officers in, put them in the media spotlight and USE THEM as political props, but given the past habit of LEFTISTS shamelessly doing exactly that it's probably a given that they will.
We can also be 100% CERTAIN that attorneys for the deceased officers union , or private attorneys, WILL attempt to somehow link their suicides to the January 6 riot in an effort to get government monetary benefits for their estates. I will hazard a guess that their first claim will be "PTSD", (a claim that will require a confirming prior diagnosis).
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I agree with what you said Randye. But I just can't understand why Jan6 protests would be to blame for a suicide while antifa blm riots haven't? People actually got hurt and died at blm antifa riots. Look at Portland where antifa blm attempted to burn down the building WITH POLICE IN IT. No reports of suicide. The Jan6 protest did not target Capital Police to kill them like antifa blm. The Police Officers across the Country had to deal with hours and days of hate filled threats and racist screaming at them. The Capital Police did not endure ANYTHING like what other Officers dealt with at blm antifa riots.
The renaming of Cleveland's Major League Baseball franchise means that the "Tribe" (Cleveland Indians) is being relegated to time past, but there's another "Tribe" that's not ready to become history.
That would be Harvard Law School professor emeritus Laurence Tribe, who specializes in Constitutional Law.
A week ago Thursday, the "Tribe'ster" went on Zoom to chew the fat with MSNBC anchor Lawrence O'Donnell.
It was a five minute conversation that examined the relevance of the so-called "Ku Klux Klan Act" of 1871, before putting the 45th President's patented "I dindu nuffin" defense under a legal microscope.
"We Are Witnessing The Unraveling Of The Cover-Up’Of January 6th"
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Constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe joins Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss the ongoing DOJ investigations into January 6th and why he believes “executive privilege won’t be available” to Donald Trump in many of the cases.
It isn't hard to find experts with opposing view points, so no surprise they only found a one sided "expert". Given your source who is extremely bias, I am.just going to say that even the highest court in the land has Justices that disagree vehemently with each other over many topics. If we were to just listen to one of them we would not get the entire picture. Your sources clearly don't find experts to debate, because they don't have an interest in informative thoughts. They have an interest in money and propaganda. Yes, I did notice you never post experts who debate. You argue through people who only argue one side, as if they are afraid to debate the opposite side. For as many people who think blm antifa are wrong, there are "experts" who argue in favor of their violence, rioting and even looting. This is unimaginable, that politicians and lawyers defend rioting, looting and violence from antifa blm and then turn all of the blame on Jan6 as if it were December 7th 1941. Two side to every coin. Just because you post an opinion from an "expert" does not mean that is the be all end all.
"We Are Witnessing The Unraveling Of The Cover-Up’Of January 6th"
The sentence is enclosed within quotation marks, to signify to readers (like Rick) that those are not my own words.
I wouldn't have gone that far, myself, in terms of describing the situation.
In the days between that conversation and today, Trump himself has said that he will not argue "executive privilege" if members of his administration are asked to testify before the House committee that's been set up to examine the events of January 6.
[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 08-03-2021).]
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today only 535 individuals], (<1.7 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 35 individuals, (6.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".
As of today only 20 individuals, (3.7 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 20 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.
As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
I understand. I did mention that you argue through other people.
There is a real "similarity of pattern" there.
His buddy, "bongdawg", also had a modus operandi of posting absurdly stupid crap that was obviously meant to TROLL people and then when he was called on it or criticized he would invariably claim: "those aren't MY words".
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
The sentence is enclosed within quotation marks, to signify to readers (like Rick) that those are not my own words.
It's a stupid, juvenile and very deceitful little bit of jackassery.
[This message has been edited by randye (edited 08-04-2021).]
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today only 535 individuals], (<1.7 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 35 individuals, (6.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".
As of today only 20 individuals, (3.7 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 20 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.
As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
Mind if I steal those for a leftist moron I'm interacting with on FB? He's been going off on how Republicans are the party of hate and is currently talking about the "Republican disease' now that the Delta variant is spreading.
