Originally posted by Hudini: Antifa is Communist. Almost the same ideas as Fascists but batting for a different team. It's the Red Shirts in 1930's Germany vs the Brown Shirts.
Really? Does that translate into "The contemporary pro-Trump or MAGA crowd are the Nazi-era Brown Shirts of our day?" Or "Across the United States, urban police departments are like the Brown Shirts of our day?"
You might have to go on the Tucker Carlson show now to apologize!
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There are no counterparts to Antifa in America. If you knew your history you'd know that the violent communists were attacking the National Socialists so the Brown Shirts were formed to combat them. Antifa was born as an answer.
A comparable group would've formed by now but the establishment has quashed it so far. I'm talking about an ideological counterpart based on ethnicity as has existed in the past. A defensive group not afraid to defend.themselves against Antifa. The establishment Reps and Dems have called those groups terrorists and targeted them.
They might eventually push so far (oppress) that a group forms that goes violent as happens everytime in history that it's become necessary for the security of the plebes. The GOP sucks so bad that they' join in to crush any push back that forms.
Wasn't it JFK who said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." He was smarter than me. Or his speech writer was, anyway.
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Meanwhile Ray Epps and the other fed operatives who are on video inciting an assault on the building arent being sought by gov.
Look up Ray Epps. All groups know where he lives.
The fed plot was to enflame the protest into a riot, resulting in punking out Ted Cruz and the other members who were set to dispute the certified counts of several states. Just as planned, they all folded and ushered in a Joe Brandon pResidency that night.
Ted is still so punked that he's willing to lie on record about Jan 6th. I remember you guys who called him one of the good guys last year.
"Who Is Ray Epps?"
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The conspiratorial claim that the attack on the U.S. Capitol was a false flag conducted by federal agents hinges largely on the identity of one man.
Not too long ago, Bill Maher quipped that the "FBI orchestrated it" narrative about the Jan. 6 invasion of the Capitol Building reminded him of McHale's Navy. A reference that I think not so many here are likely to "get." Like the Ernest Borgnine character and his WW2 PT Boat crew costuming themselves as Pacific Island natives and descending upon the Navy supply depot to make off with a shipment of booze, all to the consternation of the predictably flummoxed "Captain Binghamton."
The credibility of the "FBI orchestrated it" explanation. Like an episode of McHale's Navy.
Bill Maher nailed it.
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You Leftist morons keep quoting and leaning on Snopes like you think nobody knows that it's David Mikkelson's Leftst propaganda / apologist mill.....your Pravda
Leftists are never reluctant to use other's tragedies for their own slimy political demagoguery.
https://townhall.com/tipshe...just-as-bad-n2601495 "Democrats and those in the mainstream media have gone into overdrive to claim the riot at the Capitol building last year was on the same level as the terrorist attacks on 9/11 or when Imperial Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.
Vice President Kamala Harris began her speech at the Capitol on Thursday by linking all three events."
9-11 first responders and survivors immediately spoke up about the leftist bullshittery being spewed on them.
As someone who was standing inside the North Tower in a hole from a truck bomb on February 26, 1993, and at Ground Zero on September 11th, 2001, delete your account as you haven’t a clue about real vs imagined terrorist acts. Do better & ease off the political kool Aid. https://t.co/gy7buSivWM — Rob O'Donnell (@odonnell_r) January 6, 2022
If you consider January 6th in the same realm as 9/11, you’re simply professing your ineptness to be taken seriously on any platform, on any level. In fact, January 6th doesn’t even come close to the Rodney King riots of 1992 or the NYC Floyd riots of 2020 in size or scope. pic.twitter.com/LqjyC2ssWq — Rob O'Donnell (@odonnell_r) January 6, 2022
As the son of a 9/11 first responder & survivor, & as someone who experienced the tragedy of 1/06, I can tell you unequivocally—1/06 was NOT & will NEVER be comparable to 9/11.
To hear the @VP compare the 6th to 9/11 is a slap in the face to 9/11 survivors & heroes like my mom. — Harrison Fields (@HarrisonWFields) January 6, 2022
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LEFTISTS GOTTA LEFTIST
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Originally posted by Hudini: Antifa is Communist. Almost the same ideas as Fascists but batting for a different team. It's the Red Shirts in 1930's Germany vs the Brown Shirts.
Antifa is fascist in practice. They're the tool of the establishment major party that is totally intolerant and uncompromising.
NAZIs were and still are National Socialists. Italy was fascist.
Communism does not mean brutality. Communism can't exist where humans exist. It turns corrupt immediately.
Leftists are never reluctant to use other's tragedies for their own slimy political demagoguery.
Just be assured that the Republicans are not the right and do the same.
They used 9-11-01 to start wars with countries not involved and passed laws that subvert the Constitution and used them against us, handing us the trillions of debt for the wars.
Then they passed laws lettings banks continue doing shady things and passed that bad debt to us too.
The Dems were on board the whole way supporting every action, but the Republicans were in full control under Bush at the time and instigated all that.
Really? Does that translate into "The contemporary pro-Trump or MAGA crowd are the Nazi-era Brown Shirts of our day?" Or "Across the United States, urban police departments are like the Brown Shirts of our day?"
You might have to go on the Tucker Carlson show now to apologize!
Really. Nazi is short for National SOCIALIST worker's party of Germany. The Nazi and Communist ideologies are closely related, with the difference being the Nazi nationalism. All the other socialistic programs and philosophies are the same.
Your pitiful attempt at humor is funny in that the joke is on you.
Originally posted by Hudini: Really. Nazi is short for National SOCIALIST worker's party of Germany. The Nazi and Communist ideologies are closely related, with the difference being the Nazi nationalism. All the other socialistic programs and philosophies are the same.
So then, why would NAZIs have hated communists so much?
Really. Nazi is short for National SOCIALIST worker's party of Germany. The Nazi and Communist ideologies are closely related, with the difference being the Nazi nationalism. All the other socialistic programs and philosophies are the same.
Your pitiful attempt at humor is funny in that the joke is on you.
I wasn't expecting anyone to be ROFLTAO.
I think it's worth remarking that what had been kind of a moribund forum thread has just had such a growth spurt. "ray b" a man suddenly on fire. "Raydar." "jdv." "theBDub." "Fats." "Hudini" here. It's like this thread has suddenly morphed into Grand Central Station. I'm a little surprised that "Rickady88GT" hasn't checked in. Or "williegoat" although I think he's a bit weary of "Politics" right now.
I guess I'd have to scroll back through the last two or three pages to see if there was some particular inflection point. Some particular news report. Was it the news reports about the House Select Committee that's charged with investigating Jan. 6? Was it Biden's speech, in which he came out so loud and clear against the "Big LIe"..? Or, the one-year anniversary of Jan. 6?
I guess it's all three. Which reminds me of a joke from the late Irish-born comedian Dave Allen. It goes like this:
Doctor in attendance emerges from hospital room: "I'm sorry, sir, but your wife has just passed away. Do you want to have her buried, cremated, or donated as a cadaver to the medical school?"
Husband, now a widower: "All three, take no chances!"
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"Dear 1/6 Committee Members: if you care about “insurrection” how come you are not focusing on the pipe bombs found at both the DNC and the RNC on 1/6? How come there is no scrutiny of the FBI’s investigation? Let’s focus on security not partisan politics."
"It's been 365 days since someone planted pipe bombs outside the DNC & RNC Headquarters. How is it possible that the DOJ & FBI had time to investigate parents at school board meetings but can't get to the bottom of this?"
"Just a reminder that the only person with an ACTUAL WEAPON on January 6 was the pipe bomb person... and there's been ZERO progress in finding them."
Things that make you wonder.....
Things that make it clear that, like most things Leftists do, the "January 6 Committee" is simply a partisan political stunt....
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9-11 was external nuts being crazy we can bomb them who cares about the bystanders
1-6 was internal nuts BUT we can't bomb them as the bystanders are us so they are a far bigger threat then the mad arabs ever could be likely far more of them also with support ISIS never dreamed of is it just our reichwing funders like the bro's K or are world wide dark forces footing the bills or maybe just a few like putin
I wonder how many here do at some level support the invaders on 1-6 if you do do you care who pays the piper behind the curtains ?
So then, why would NAZIs have hated communists so much?
You mean the Communists in the USSR that they originally worked with? Or do you mean the Communists in Japan that they worked with? Or perhaps the Communists in Germany that controlled the party hated themselves?
It's weird that they didn't get along so well, yet were a Communist country after the country was divided into East and West Germany. Did you never hear about the "Red Brown Alliance"?
9-11 was external nuts being crazy we can bomb them who cares about the bystanders
1-6 was internal nuts BUT we can't bomb them as the bystanders are us so they are a far bigger threat then the mad arabs ever could be likely far more of them also with support ISIS never dreamed of is it just our reichwing funders like the bro's K or are world wide dark forces footing the bills or maybe just a few like putin
I wonder how many here do at some level support the invaders on 1-6 if you do do you care who pays the piper behind the curtains ?
You mean the Communists in the USSR that they originally worked with? Or do you mean the Communists in Japan that they worked with? Or perhaps the Communists in Germany that controlled the party hated themselves?
It's weird that they didn't get along so well, yet were a Communist country after the country was divided into East and West Germany. Did you never hear about the "Red Brown Alliance"?
Germany is still an occupied country.
Nope, never did hear of it. Not that I remember. That's interesting info. I really don't know much on the topic aside from surface info, since it's considered a 3rd rail in internet discussion. People want to be triggered and stamp out discovery. Another set of people want to be belittling knowitall a-holes as if they were born knowing something on the topic and don't want to participate in sharing info.
What I was looking for was that the national socialists actually hated Bolshevik communism.
“Never forget that the rulers of present-day Russia are common blood-stained criminals; that they are the scum of humanity which, favoured by circumstances, overran a great state in a tragic hour, slaughtered out thousands of her leading intelligentsia in wild bloodlust, and now for almost ten years have been carrying on the most cruel and tyrannical regime of all time.
Furthermore, do not forget that these rulers belong to a race which combines, in a rare mixture, bestial cruelty and an inconceivable gift for lying, and which today more than ever is conscious of a mission to impose its bloody oppression on the whole world. Do not forget that the international Jew who completely dominates Russia today regards Germany not as an ally, but as a state destined to the same fate."
Trotsky's, Lenin's, Stalin's communism, Mao's communism aren't indicative of all communism.
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9-11 was external nuts being crazy we can bomb them who cares about the bystanders
1-6 was internal nuts BUT we can't bomb them as the bystanders are us so they are a far bigger threat then the mad arabs ever could be likely far more of them also with support ISIS never dreamed of is it just our reichwing funders like the bro's K or are world wide dark forces footing the bills or maybe just a few like putin
I wonder how many here do at some level support the invaders on 1-6 if you do do you care who pays the piper behind the curtains ?
Nope, never did hear of it. Not that I remember. That's interesting info. I really don't know much on the topic aside from surface info, since it's considered a 3rd rail in internet discussion. People want to be triggered and stamp out discovery. Another set of people want to be belittling knowitall a-holes as if they were born knowing something on the topic and don't want to participate in sharing info.
What I was looking for was that the national socialists actually hated Bolshevik communism.
“Never forget that the rulers of present-day Russia are common blood-stained criminals; that they are the scum of humanity which, favoured by circumstances, overran a great state in a tragic hour, slaughtered out thousands of her leading intelligentsia in wild bloodlust, and now for almost ten years have been carrying on the most cruel and tyrannical regime of all time.
Furthermore, do not forget that these rulers belong to a race which combines, in a rare mixture, bestial cruelty and an inconceivable gift for lying, and which today more than ever is conscious of a mission to impose its bloody oppression on the whole world. Do not forget that the international Jew who completely dominates Russia today regards Germany not as an ally, but as a state destined to the same fate."
Trotsky's, Lenin's, Stalin's communism, Mao's communism aren't indicative of all communism.
A. Hitler; "Mein Kampf" (1924)
The text that sourmash posted is from Mein Kampf. The text that I highlighted in GREEN. So let's give credit where credit is due. It's not good forum manners (IMO) to replicate text or images from online sources or from other sources, without crediting those sources.
To be honest, I sometimes do not credit the sources for images. I think I've been very consistent in providing the sources for any text that I duplicate onto this forum.
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Doesn't matter what you think about posting the source. It's in quotes indicating it's a quote. Any klutz can copy and search to find the source.
Germany has been occupied since the 40s. Any choices made, politically, have been coloured by that occupation. Communists defeated and took part of Germany in WW2.
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today only 650 individuals], (1.0 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 35 individuals, (5.3 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 4 individuals, (0.6 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".
As of today only 165 individuals, (25 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges.
As of today only 165 individuals, (<0.03 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.03 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.02 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.
As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.
As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.
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Heretofore the Breaking News has used the figure of 30,000 as the size of the Trump rally on January 6, 2021. That figure was derived simply from the permit issued by the National Park Service days before the rally. No official estimate of the actual crowd size has ever been released since that event. The 30,000 crowd size number has been increased to 60,000 based on the following: “Rally organizers told the National Park Service that they anticipated 30,000 people would attend. Law enforcement said the crowd size ahead of the protest was possibly as much as 80,000, according to then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy.”
I think it's worth remarking that what had been kind of a moribund forum thread has just had such a growth spurt. "ray b" a man suddenly on fire. "Raydar." "jdv." "theBDub." "Fats." "Hudini" here. It's like this thread has suddenly morphed into Grand Central Station. I'm a little surprised that "Rickady88GT" hasn't checked in. Or "williegoat" although I think he's a bit weary of "Politics" right now.
I guess I'd have to scroll back through the last two or three pages to see if there was some particular inflection point. Some particular news report. Was it the news reports about the House Select Committee that's charged with investigating Jan. 6? Was it Biden's speech, in which he came out so loud and clear against the "Big LIe"..? Or, the one-year anniversary of Jan. 6?
One year anniversary, for me.
This forum is a great example of how social media echo chambers push people deeper and radicalize them. Sometimes I come here to see how deep they’ve gotten.
9-11 was external nuts being crazy we can bomb them who cares about the bystanders
You have swallowed and regurgitated the establishment narrative satisfactorily enough for the establishment to endorse your opinion. Good boy.
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1-6 was internal nuts BUT we can't bomb them as the bystanders are us so they are a far bigger threat then the mad arabs ever could be likely far more of them also with support ISIS never dreamed of is it just our reichwing funders like the bro's K
The USA funds ISIS. Israel medically treated ISIS fighters injured in Syria attacking the Syrian people. Again, you have satisfied the establishment well. Israel continues to attack Syria.
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or are world wide dark forces footing the bills or maybe just a few like putin
Putin is an enemy of the USA, in part because he has prevented a US led overthrowing of Assad.
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I wonder how many here do at some level support the invaders on 1-6 if you do do you care who pays the piper behind the curtains ?
Congress belongs to the people. The person murdered was unarmed, White and female. A Black man employed by our gov and having a history of reckless gun behavior murdered her.
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Originally posted by sourmash: Congress belongs to the people. The person murdered was unarmed, White and female. A Black man employed by our gov and having a history of reckless gun behavior murdered her.
Demagoguery and race-baiting, side by side.
"the people" . . . what a meaningless and misused phrase, in this instance.
I wonder who expects to be looking in live on any of the prime time TV that seems to be in the offing. When the House Select Committee on Jan. 6 goes "live" with its hearings. PrimeTime Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. That's the latest that I've seen on that.
I'm sure I will see some of it, although I don't expect to see all of it.
well window chic got herself shot IN A B&E who why or what for is less important then yes she is dead jim
AND IN MOST NORMAL NON MIDDLE AGE WHITE GUY CRIMINALS CASES THEY ALL GET CHARGED WITH MURDER WHEN THAT HAPPENS one dead partner in crime EQUALS MURDER CHARGES FOR ALL INVOLVED
so yes the mega/maga morons are being treated with far less then the normal FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW
HARD TO SAY if the new normal or just this federal case
AS THERE IS A TREND TO LESS INCARCERATION NOW and real needed as we do have far tooo many in prisons but perhaps not near the numbers of middle aged white guys
this round #1 aka little fish wait and see who flips and who gets charged in round #2 of the active lower level originators and recruiters rinse and repeat for rounds #3 and #4 of leadership positions ever higher up the chain of fools until the rump is reached
this
or taxes
or who knows what crimes of the deep dark swamp the rump did ?
Well, you're the one stating a race or gender is derogatory. He has a provable history of reckless gun behavior. She was an unarmed veteran. It matters. He's the one who murdered an unarmed female veteran.
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"the people" . . . what a meaningless and misused phrase, in this instance.
while there are demo's in both BLM and the antifascist they are not controlled by THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
if you do not understand the difference...
"Controlled by"..seriously is that how you have determined? What about ideologies?
Even so if you don't consider things like ideologies and agendas, stick to your guidelines.. forget "controlled by", and insert allowed, encouraged, enabled, pied pipered.
the party of abe now has the values morals and ideals of jefferson davis
50 years...of agenda driven slanted media interpretation, or facts? Big difference. Don't believe the BS. Also start thinking about individual people and ideologies and not "parties".
well window chic got herself shot IN A B&E who why or what for is less important then yes she is dead jim
You just lied. She didn't break and enter.
You are, however, confirming you're regurgitating the establishment propaganda.
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AND IN MOST NORMAL NON MIDDLE AGE WHITE GUY CRIMINALS CASES THEY ALL GET CHARGED WITH MURDER WHEN THAT HAPPENS one dead partner in crime EQUALS MURDER CHARGES FOR ALL INVOLVED
As we see, prior criminal history means mothing when the White offender is charged. These people are being enslaved.
When the criminal is non-White and has a prior history, he's turned loose with 100 bail . And typically back to the crimes he was arrested for, like the SUV that ran down a Christmas parade. We can't even get a report that it was a person.
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so yes the mega/maga morons are being treated with far less then the normal FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW
Reality proves you're BSing. People disrupt votes constantly inside the House and no imprisonment happens.
These are political prisoners.
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AS THERE IS A TREND TO LESS INCARCERATION NOW and real needed as we do have far tooo many in prisons but perhaps not near the numbers of middle aged white guys
Those people are White. They're denied council. They're put on report to keep them in 23 hour per day solitary confinement.
9-11 was external nuts being crazy we can bomb them who cares about the bystanders
1-6 was internal nuts BUT we can't bomb them as the bystanders are us so they are a far bigger threat then the mad arabs ever could be likely far more of them also with support ISIS never dreamed of is it just our reichwing funders like the bro's K or are world wide dark forces footing the bills or maybe just a few like putin
I wonder how many here do at some level support the invaders on 1-6 if you do do you care who pays the piper behind the curtains ?
This forum is a great example of how social media echo chambers push people deeper and radicalize them. Sometimes I come here to see how deep they’ve gotten.
Your post makes you sound very high and mighty, radically arguing facts, radically thinking for ones self and common sense is somehow now beneath you? Which "echo chamber" is your drug of choice? The mainstream one, maybe the one your friends are in?
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Originally posted by 2.5:No, their leaders said flat out they were trained Marxists, and they walk around promoting the hammer and sickle. You missed that?
Are you talking about Antifa, or about (some of) the people who broke into the Capitol Building on January 6?
As far as the idea that the Capitol break-in was led or orchestrated by Antifa, or by agents working for the FBI . . . that's "McHale's Navy" . . . my previous remarks on that.
Too many people got involved in fighting with the Capitol Police, and too many of them came to the Capitol Building already armed with improviised weapons (and guns in some of the cases), walkie-talkies and other accoutrements of an illegal mob bent on violence and forceful tactics . . . you can read some of their histories online at DOJ and see that these were MAGA's and not Antifa or undercover agents working for the FBI. There were too many of them.
