Thank you for actually engaging in debate on the topic.
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A fetus requires that specific prospective mother in order to survive. It feeds from that specific human's organs. That host has the right to terminate that relationship,
We already engaged in this topic. Maybe it wasnt spelled out good enough by me but all that he said is what I was expressing as well. You don't see any responsibility for a child created, that seems to be the difference. To the extent of calling it a parasite and killng it being ok.
Originally posted by theBDub: It’s a human and a parasite. It fits the definition that I linked.
LOL, damn... a parasite? You don't have kids I take it... this would not be the term you would use.
parasite - Definition păr′ə-sīt″ (noun) - An organism that lives and feeds on or in an organism of a different species and causes harm to its host. - One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.
OK... maybe the second one is partially true. But all jokes aside, dude... a parasite? Poor choice of words ...? I'll accept the mistake here.
A human fetus is not a parasite, damn... it's literally the creation by two individuals.
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Originally posted by Fats: Am I alone in thinking that prostitution shouldn't be a crime? I get that it is, and therefore fair game. But something that can be given away for free shouldn't be illegal if you sell it freely IMO.
I don't think I would hold prostitution against anyone. As long as both parties are consenting adults, hey, more power to ya.
I think it only fits in the context of that list, because the left is always super-critical of someone on the right who falls short of their vows. Be that as it may, we generally agree with Federalism, and until the Supreme Court decides in a case at the Federal level stating that prostitution is legal... then it's up to the states to make the decision. As it stands, vast majority of states make it illegal.
My personal views are that it's not something that should be encouraged. *MOST* prostitutes engage in the profession as an act of desperation to support a drug addiction, because it's the only thing they have that's a continuous resource for them that cannot be taken away. That's not to say that all prostitutes are that way. I've mentioned before that at least 1/2 of my family comes from the Netherlands. Prostitution in the Netherlands is long and storied... technically, the Dutch literally brought Europe out of the Dark Ages through Prostitution. When the city of Dodrecht used to actually be a beach town (they've since built dams and made new land), they set up the town as a major port of trade. What encouraged sailors and pirates to come to Dodrecht was prostitution... I guess something about Dutch girls brought "the boys to the yard."
As a Catholic, I don't like it. As a person who believes in personal freedom and liberty... you're not hurting anyone but yourself... so I support it in theory... but I'm a bigger fan of letting the local public decide... e.g. state's rights / Federalism.
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We already engaged in this topic. Maybe it wasnt spelled out good enough by me but all that he said is what I was expressing as well. You don't see any responsibility for a child created, that seems to be the difference. To the extent of calling it a parasite and killng it being ok.
My apologies, then. I think Brad did a good job of expressing why he believes it's not a parasite when he said it's not a parasite because it doesn't stay a parasite. I didn't see that in the other arguments, but it could have just been talking past one another.
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LOL, damn... a parasite? You don't have kids I take it... this would not be the term you would use.
parasite - Definition păr′ə-sīt″ (noun) - An organism that lives and feeds on or in an organism of a different species and causes harm to its host. - One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.
OK... maybe the second one is partially true. But all jokes aside, dude... a parasite? Poor choice of words ...? I'll accept the mistake here.
A human fetus is not a parasite, damn... it's literally the creation by two individuals.
The definition I posted is slightly deviated from yours. Merriam-Webster does not distinguish "different species," so I would say the first is true with that caveat. It is an organism (true) that feeds on or in an organism (true) of a different species, and causes harm to its host (true--it takes nutrients and compromises immune system, though not all changes are negative).
I know parasite has a bad connotation, but by pure denotation, it does fit. Brad made a good argument against it, but I still think it fits.
And I have a little parasite one on the way Super excited!!!
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The definition I posted is slightly deviated from yours. Merriam-Webster does not distinguish "different species," so I would say the first is true with that caveat. It is an organism (true) that feeds on or in an organism (true) of a different species, and causes harm to its host (true--it takes nutrients and compromises immune system, though not all changes are negative).
I know parasite has a bad connotation, but by pure denotation, it does fit. Brad made a good argument against it, but I still think it fits.
And I have a little parasite one on the way Super excited!!!
I'm very happy for you! Definitely open up a 529 in your state as soon as he/she is born.
Not to argue semantics, but a parasite is also something that is a foreign body that resides in a host. A human baby literally is made from scratch in the womb of a female (or birthing person if you're so inclined). The egg is produced by the female's ovaries, and are fertilized (DNA codes passed) through the sperm of a male. A parasite comes from an intentional infection / bite from another being that is not of the same species.
I would say, there is no situation in which a human baby can be considered a parasite under any definition of the word.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I'm very happy for you! Definitely open up a 529 in your state as soon as he/she is born.
Not to argue semantics, but a parasite is also something that is a foreign body that resides in a host. A human baby literally is made from scratch in the womb of a female (or birthing person if you're so inclined). The egg is produced by the female's ovaries, and are fertilized (DNA codes passed) through the sperm of a male. A parasite comes from an intentional infection / bite from another being that is not of the same species.
I would say, there is no situation in which a human baby can be considered a parasite under any definition of the word.
This definition makes no mention of it being a different species. It makes no mention of it being an intentional infection. Under this definition, a fetus does qualify.
(Regardless, it doesn't really change the nature of the argument. If we don't want it to be called a parasite, fine, the purpose of the use was to indicate that it's an organism that's living off of another organism's nutrients and can't survive without it)
Originally posted by theBDub: Lol. I can't imagine what it must be like to try and hold an actual conversation with you.
If you actually had something worthwhile to converse about it would be fine.
But you don't.
All you have done is mindlessly repeat "parasite" page after page like a crazed Leftist parrot on meth and then you bizarrely deflect off into lists of political sex offenders all while you're simultaneously defending the Leftist / Demorat idea of strangers having inappropriate, sexually charged, discussions with other people's toddlers.
That's not a conversation. It's a confession.
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Originally posted by randye: If you actually had something worthwhile to converse about it would be fine.
But you don't.
All you have done is mindlessly repeat "parasite" like a crazed Leftist parrot on meth and then bizarrely deflect off into lists of political sex offenders all while simultaneously defending the Leftist / Demorat idea of strangers having inappropriate, sexually charged, discussions with other people's toddlers.
That's not a conversation. It's a confession.
so sure they are doing the right thing
he never looks at the results
7.9 billion is way too many too much pollution
lets bann birth control and sex ed just like they use to
for some unknown non-reason religion demands ever more souls to produce some future end times fantasy of death and destruction ?
I guess the god bothered never did run the logical progression of their demands
but a better idea would be limit the population to not over tax the resources of the planet and try to allow the other animals we SHARE THE BALL WITH A CHANCE
------------------ Question wonder and be wierd are you kind?
lets bann birth control and sex ed just like they use to
for some unknown non-reason religion demands ever more souls to produce some future end times fantasy of death and destruction ?
I guess the god bothered never did run the logical progression of their demands
but a better idea would be limit the population to not over tax the resources of the planet and try to allow the other animals we SHARE THE BALL WITH A CHANCE
------------------ Question wonder and be wierd
Every time I try to read another bizarre, incoherent, "haiku" like that the same image comes to mind.
I don't think anybody here has any idea WTF you're attempting to say but it is sometimes amusing in a very weird kind of way so you have achieved your goal.....assuming of course that you aren't struggling to tell us all that you want to be "wired".....
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Question wonder and be wierd
If anyone could decipher whatever the hell it is you're attempting to say, you might get people to engage with you seriously but as it is it's just gibberish.
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Originally posted by randye: If you actually had something worthwhile to converse about it would be fine.
But you don't.
All you have done is mindlessly repeat "parasite" page after page, like a crazed Leftist parrot on meth and then bizarrely deflect off into lists of political sex offenders all while simultaneously defending the Leftist / Demorat idea of strangers having inappropriate, sexually charged, discussions with other people's toddlers.
That's not a conversation. It's a confession.
I’m just responding to others. I’ve mentioned a few times, I don’t think it’s that important to the broader message. I don’t think it changes the argument much, either way. But I’m always willing to discuss.
Originally posted by randye: If anyone could decipher whatever the hell it is you're attempting to say, you might get people to engage with you seriously but as it is it's just gibberish.
Pretty sure the “are you kind” of his signature is quoting Grateful Dead.
Pretty sure the “are you kind” of his signature is quoting Grateful Dead.
song is uncle john's band words by r hunter
Well the first days are the hardest days, don't you worry any more 'Cause when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door Think this through with me, let me know your mind Woah-oh, what I want to know, is are you kind?
I’m just responding to others. I’ve mentioned a few times, I don’t think it’s that important to the broader message. I don’t think it changes the argument much, either way. But I’m always willing to discuss.
Since I called both of you out by name, it was unnecessary to quote.
This isn't a hill to die on, I'm not trying to score points for Team Todd here. I'm just simply stating that it makes the conversation much easier when you quote the person and statement that you're responding to. Not trying to be mean, just saying it makes it easier for everyone to follow. I can't always assume that everyone will be on my side, or the other side, or both sides, etc.
Not dying on any hill here, but I don't see how you could have confused me with supporting TheBdub's assertation of a fetus being a parasite if you had been following the conversation.
and if so against just do not do it yourself to a woman
BUT THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION THE RELIGIOUS WANT TO CON-TROLL EVERY ONE that is not freedom that is not less government that is what the god bothered want CON-TROLL
Those may be your beliefs, but the facts do not support your premise.
what facts ?
the con's do have many alt-true facts many based on their buybull but not any real world based facts there is no proof of any god even less of any god's plan
"An ectopic pregnancy can't proceed normally. The fertilized egg can't survive, and the growing tissue may cause life-threatening bleeding, if left untreated."
You treat it. Stop with the BS questions.
“Sen. Warren Hamilton, R-McCurtain, questioned why there were exceptions in the measure, including one for ectopic pregnancy.
Ectopic pregnancies occur when a fertilized egg implants and grows outside the uterus where it cannot survive. The condition can be deadly for women.
Hamilton, who supports abolishing all abortions, said the product of an ectopic pregnancy or the result of rape or incest deserve the same protections.”
Your anti abortion boys don’t care so stop with the BS assumptions and don’t act like these whackos are the exception.
the con's do have many alt-true facts many based on their buybull but not any real world based facts there is no proof of any god even less of any god's plan
Yup rayb, all of this universe is nothing but accidental, random chance. There is no good, no evil. No morals, because where would something like morals come from if there is no good or evil?
Yup rayb, all of this universe is nothing but accidental, random chance. There is no good, no evil. No morals, because where would something like morals come from if there is no good or evil?
no there is evil the Gop is evil the people who try to limit rights censor and restrict freedoms are evil those why try to impose their morals on others are evil
if there is a plan for sure the god bothered have no idea what it is you randy and your elk are active in working against peace and freedom
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Originally posted by ray b: no there is evil the Gop is evil the people who try to limit rights censor and restrict freedoms are evil those why try to impose their morals on others are evil
if there is a plan for sure the god bothered have no idea what it is you randy and your elk are active in working against peace and freedom
ray b and rinselberg accomplishments:
Too much Freedom=Chaos, then to Anarchy. Leftists way of life.
Sanctuary!
All caused by leftist policies, pushed by the author's of the NWO. Nancy Pee is currently over in Ukraine explaining to Pres Zielinski how to make Ukraine great again...
"The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”
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NOTE: Leaks of SCOTUS decisions prior to being published are EXTREMELY RARE throughout the history of the U.S., so while this news should approached with an abundance of caution, the highly partisan and heated nature of this issue and the flood of leaks from all other branches of our government in the past years also tends to make a leak like this unsurprising if it did indeed happen.
I should also mention that, despite what the article says, abortion has never been "a constitutionally protected right'.
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Super excited!!!
