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Abortion thread by 2.5
Started on: 03-28-2022 01:08 PM
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There's an old adage about arguing with a person of limited knowledge.

As I don't want to confused with someone else, I will now ignore your posts that have no historical grounding.

Enjoy your day.

Some advice....your tag line says 'question wonder and be wierd'.
Perhaps you should start questioning some of those things that you pass on as knowledge.

Are you "Reeling in the Years"?
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PROVE THAT YOU WENT TO SCHOOL

All we ever see from you are incomplete sentences and incoherent strings of words replete with misspelled words and made-up words.

There is never a concise point or conclusion in any of the weird "haiku" that you write.

What precious little we can make out of your posts is wildly twisted, and / or false history and bizarre rhetoric.

Based on all of that that I don't believe that you have any formal education past the very elementary level.



well you do believe all kinds of things that just ain't true
and like most con's just make stuff up

esp when losing
like you have here

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

There's an old adage about arguing with a person of limited knowledge.

As I don't want to confused with someone else, I will now ignore your posts that have no historical grounding.

Enjoy your day.

Some advice....your tag line says 'question wonder and be wierd'.
Perhaps you should start questioning some of those things that you pass on as knowledge.

Are you "Reeling in the Years"?


yes like your buddys you do have very limited understanding and a very very bias and spun hard right world view

I most quote you to correct the many things you Get so very very WRONG
REALLY NO HOPE OF GET THRU TO YOU
JUST A TRY TO PREVENT OTHERS FROM BELIEVING YOUR SPIN AND DISTORTIONS IS NEAR THE TRUTH

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A feeble, geriatric, American Indian had a really wild meltdown over the SCOTUS Roe leak today and swore to go on the warpath over it.


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Meanwhile Leftists seem to be "coping" with the SCOTUS news in their "usual fashion":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_FXOmTDuh8&t=1s

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With all the goings on with this leak, not too much mentioned about 'birthing people'.
Bigots.
Words changed back, AGAIN.
Narrative changed AGAIN.
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With all the goings on with this leak, not too much mentioned about 'birthing people'.
Bigots.
Words changed back, AGAIN.
Narrative changed AGAIN.


That looks like a beer drinker to me.
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I'm almost at a loss for words...

The left has gotten so crazy the past few years... like, I don't even really know how to put it into words. There's no explaining how insane they've become.

If tomorrow people started having surgeries to attach penises to their foreheads... Chuck Schumer would pass legislation to have this become a protected right, taught in school, and paid for by the government.

And every left-leaning person just follows along.


My daughter has a friend in school who is a girl, but identifies as a boy. "He's" dating a boy that identifies as a girl. They say they are in a non-heteronormative relationship... but literally, it's a girl dating a boy... ? I just can't with this stuff...
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I'm almost at a loss for words...

The left has gotten so crazy the past few years... like, I don't even really know how to put it into words. There's no explaining how insane they've become.



It's easy Todd,

LEFTISTS GOTTA LEFTIST

The nature of insane people is to do and say insane things.

The nature of people who form their opinions and make their decisions on their own emotions is to remain perpetually petulant and unreasonable children.

In other words: "Leftists gotta Leftist", because all of that is in their nature.

Leftists didn't become crazier in the past few years. They just got "a bigger bullhorn" and also started more quickly infecting other areas of our society and culture.

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OK, the author of this dandy little "gem" of a Twatter post isn't known for being the sharpest tool in the Leftist shed, but DAMN !...

This message of his really makes "Mr. Fang Fang the Chinese Spy F**ker" the frontrunner for the 2022 Congressional Clueless Award.



Who's going to be the one to tell him that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, House Representative Byron Donalds and Justice Clarence Thomas are all in interracial marriages?

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
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My daughter has a friend in school who is a girl, but identifies as a boy. "He's" dating a boy that identifies as a girl. They say they are in a non-heteronormative relationship... but literally, it's a girl dating a boy... ? I just can't with this stuff...


It's just the latest flavor of "LUGs" (Lesbians Until Graduation.)
Neal Boortz used to talk about this on his radio program decades ago. (Damn... I miss him.) I didn't really think much about it, until I realized I (sort-of) knew one. Just an attention-grabbing ploy, I think.
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Not sure what you mean by this being a "false flag".

The leak did indeed happen and Chief Justice Roberts confirmed it yesterday.
...


Maybe a poor choice of words. Maybe not.
Obviously the leak happened. My comment was regarding the timing, and whether or not the leaked information was actually, you know, accurate.
It's certainly steering the topic of conversation away from Brandon, et al. As designed, I'm sure.

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Maybe a poor choice of words. Maybe not.
Obviously the leak happened. My comment was regarding the timing, and whether or not the leaked information was actually, you know, accurate.
It's certainly steering the topic of conversation away from Brandon, et al. As designed, I'm sure.



If its a draft then its not final and does not represent the final document.
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I did not change any subject





You don't answer questions about abortion, you point over there at politics and religion.
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A feeble, geriatric, American Indian had a really wild meltdown over the SCOTUS Roe leak today and swore to go on the warpath over it.


Click to show



It's an insurrection, language of violence
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You don't answer questions about abortion, you point over there at politics and religion.


SEE MY SIG
questions yes

answers no

forgot the last page question anyway

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SEE MY SIG
questions yes

answers no

forgot the last page question anyway




WOW!


You speak Bidenese....
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Hale and Brimstone! Hale Mary! Hale and Well Met! Hale to the Chief! Nathan “I have but one life” Hale. Comet Hale-Bopp. And now, courtesy of none other than U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito himself … Sir Matthew Hale!


"Looking rather quaint today, Matt..!"

 
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In case you needed any further proof that the modern anti-abortion movement is an outgrowth of many centuries of virulent misogyny and violence against women, Justice Samuel Alito’s leaked opinion draft striking down Roe v. Wade relies heavily on a 17th century English jurist who had two women executed for “witchcraft,” wrote in defense of marital rape, and believed capital punishment should extend to kids as young as 14.
Laura Bassett in Tuesday's edition of Jezebel.


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“Two treatises by Sir Matthew Hale,” Alito wrote in his argument to end legal abortion across America, “described abortion of a quick child who died in the womb as a ‘great crime’ and a ‘great misprision'.. See M. Hale, Pleas of the Crown.”

That prompted "Aldous J Pennyfarthing" to interject, in the Daily Kos:
 
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So how many of you woke up this morning thinking you were guilty of “great misprisions”? Not many, I’ll wager. But clearly, a great many of you are up to your blowsy neck wattles in them ... Pleas of the Crown? Were there no relevant passages from Archie Comics?


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How interesting that Alito would cite Pleas of the Crown! That’s the text, published in 1736, 60 years after Hale’s death, that defended and laid the foundation for the marital rape exemption across the world. Let’s go straight to the text:

“For the husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband which she cannot retract,” Hale wrote.


MSNBC's Joy Reid was talking about Sir Matthew Hale at the beginning of today's Reid Out, but I don't have the video.


Sir Matthew Hale. Who didn't see that one coming?

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It's an insurrection, language of violence



What she said pales in comparison to the direct threats to Supreme Court Justices that DemoRAT Schmuckie Schumer made just 24 months ago in connection with the abortion issue:



Again yesterday he got up on the Senate floor and called the Justices names and made accusations of perjury against them but he stopped short of another outright threat.

Leftists gotta Leftist

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Ya know, so long as they are on the path to righting past wrongs, is there any chance you guys could lead the world back to sanity and repeal the 19th ???
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Ya know, so long as they are on the path to righting past wrongs, is there any chance you guys could lead the world back to sanity and repeal the 19th ???


Imagine that... women not only wish to retain control of their own bodies, but they want the right to vote as well. Uppity b!tches!

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Imagine that... women not only wish to retain control of their own bodies, but they want the right to vote as well. Uppity b!tches!


This is a crazy World we live in. On one hand we are being told that people can change gender at will and that words are violence AND so is the lack of words, BUT when people say babies lives matter and that they have voices outside the mothers body,...they are all upset. This simple fact is that the baby inside a woman can't grow in a man who believes he is a woman AND that baby growing inside a woman's body isn't her body. It is a separate person with it's own brain and nervous system. This is exactly why the mother can't feel the pain of a hurting baby inside her. She can't tell what it thinks or if it is uncomfortable. She can't tell if the baby is happy or sad, even at it's very primal and immature stage of life, they still have measurable brain activity that suggests that something is going on continously within the baby. And the mother is totally unaware of how the person within her is doing. The mother cant tell if the baby is sick or suffering, or if the baby is healthy (normal) or deformed. The mother can't tell if the baby is awake or sleeping but can feel it moving sometimes. This is all evidence that proves that the baby is a separate person from the mother and that she is carrying the baby till it can live outside her and into this harsh World.
Should a woman have the right to do what she wants with her body? I believe that they already do and have had that right for a LONG time. They just don't have the right to murder a baby that is in her body.

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An embryo is a human and deserves protection against abortion from the earliest moment of conception. The fertilization of the human egg by the human sperm. Or the implantation of the embryo into the wall of the uterus. Protected against abortion, if there is a detectable heartbeat signal (an electrical signal that's detectable from outside the womb) even before there is a heart or the beginnings of a heart inside the embryo. And no exceptions of any kind. It cannot be argued that there was forcible rape. It cannot be argued that there was incest. It does not matter how young the pregnant woman (14 years?) even in a case where it can be argued that there was forcible rape or incest. "Abortion Denied."

If the reporting that I have been seeing is accurate, many of the red state laws against abortion have been written in this way. Is that what they want, or is that a strategy of extremism, staking out a negotiating position—a "stalking horse" as it were—with the idea of stepping back a small ways in some future and perhaps nationwide (putative new federal legislation on abortion) compromise?

Would there be an exception allowing abortions for pregnancy because of human parthenogenesis?

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An embryo is a human and deserves protection against abortion from the earliest moment of conception. The fertilization of the human egg by the human sperm. Or the implantation of the embryo into the wall of the uterus. Protected against abortion, if there is a detectable heartbeat signal (an electrical signal that's detectable from outside the womb) even before there is a heart or the beginnings of a heart inside the embryo. And no exceptions of any kind. It cannot be argued that there was forcible rape. It cannot be argued that there was incest. It does not matter how young the pregnant woman (14 years?) even in a case where it can be argued that there was forcible rape or incest. "Abortion Denied."

If the reporting that I have been seeing is accurate, many of the red state laws against abortion have been written in this way. Is that what they want, or is that a strategy of extremism, staking out a negotiating position—a "stalking horse" as it were—with the idea of stepping back a small ways in some future and perhaps nationwide (putative new federal legislation on abortion) compromise?

Would there be an exception allowing abortions for pregnancy because of human parthenogenesis?





You got most of the first paragraph right.

Then you kind of lost it....

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how many

how many will die

in the states that ban the option

as not everyone will be able to travel

so some the poorest will try the unsafest ways
and some will not survive

so how many

how many will this rule kill
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so some the poorest will try the unsafest ways
and some will not survive



Yep... back to young women bleeding out after a clandestine appointment on a kitchen table with a coat hanger.
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Not to be crass, but either way, a life is lost.

One life innocent, the other life irresponsible, with the exception of rape.

You really show your hypocrisy, lamenting the 'possible' loss of life.

It would be pretty funny, if it weren't for it being such a life and death subject.

Edit to add....

Margaret Sanger would be so proud of you.

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I suspect a lot of men would have an entirely different view of being pro-choice if it was them who were pregnant and who were being forced to give birth against their wishes.

It's not enough that these men want complete control over the women in their own lives... they demand that women whom have nothing to do with them also be under their thumb.

People need to mind their own business.
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Anything to say about the men who married the woman and raised the family with her.

How about the men who just run out on their responsibilities?

An unwanted pregnancy is many times caused by wanted intercourse.
Perhaps some self restraint is in order in our modern society.
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Not to be crass, but either way, a life is lost.

One life innocent, the other life irresponsible...



I guarantee there are male members of this forum who have impregnated women... and then just buggered off to let the woman deal with the consequences. This has been going on since mankind were apes... oh sorry, since Creation. Yet, by your own admission, the woman is written off as "irresponsible" if she had sexual relations, pregnancy precautions failed, and then doesn't wish to give birth. And if she dies while desperately trying to abort the pregnancy, so what eh? She's just an irresponsible tramp.

You might feel differently if it was your daughter, or your granddaughter slowly, painfully dying of septic shock. But hey, they would never ever have sex unless it was to have a child, would they? Of course not.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

I guarantee there are male members of this forum who have impregnated women... and then just buggered off to let the woman deal with the consequences. This has been going on since mankind were apes... oh sorry, since Creation. Yet, by your own admission, the woman is written off as "irresponsible" if she had sexual relations, pregnancy precautions failed, and then doesn't wish to give birth. And if she dies while desperately trying to abort the pregnancy, so what eh? She's just an irresponsible tramp.

You might feel differently if it was your daughter, or your granddaughter slowly, painfully dying of septic shock. But hey, they would never ever have sex unless it was to have a child, would they? Of course not.


Don't put words in my mouth Patrick. I didn't say any such thing.

And I guarantee there are men on this Forum that stepped up to their responsibilities.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Perhaps some self restraint is in order in our modern society.

What a barbaric suggestion! Without government, how would we know what is allowed?

God gave us the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Is there a hierarchical list? Are all people not created equal? Does God say that some lives have more privilege?

The right to life: who decides which life has more value?

The right to liberty: who decides who deserves the most liberty?

The pursuit of happiness: Now, that is what got some people in this predicament to start with.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

And I guarantee there are men on this Forum that stepped up to their responsibilities.


Of course there are... but how does that in any way help the women who weren't nearly so fortunate? How does that help the women who were promised the moon... and who then got the shaft... in more ways than one?

 
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Don't put words in my mouth Patrick. I didn't say any such thing.


Well Joe, please explain then your use of the word "irresponsible". How is it supposed to be interpreted in your post?

 
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Not to be crass, but either way, a life is lost.

One life innocent, the other life irresponsible, with the exception of rape.

You really show your hypocrisy, lamenting the 'possible' loss of life.

It would be pretty funny, if it weren't for it being such a life and death subject.


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The baby's life is totally innocent, the woman has to bear some responsibility for the results of her actions, she had a choice - the innocent child does not. A comparison between the two parties in the equation.

There are many forms of birth control, many ways to check for pregnancy and morning after pills as well. Responsibility extends to after the fact, as well as during the act. How many women get 4 or 5 months down the road and go 'Oh, I'm pregnant'. Maybe not the responsible ones?
Abortion isn't going away, first trimester abortions before a heartbeat are acceptable by most jurisdictions.

The larger point is that the Supreme Court had no Constitutional provision to extend right of privacy legal interpretation to cover abortion.
The matter should rightfully, and Constitutionally, be the purview of the States.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

...the woman has to bear some responsibility for the results of her actions


...unlike the "father" who's buggered off.

Joe, I appreciate your stance, I really do. I myself am not in favor of abortion being used as a form of birth control. However, I defend a woman's right to control what goes on within her own body.
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Originally posted by ray b:

how many

how many will die

in the states that ban the option

as not everyone will be able to travel

so some the poorest will try the unsafest ways
and some will not survive

so how many

how many will this rule kill


Probably a whole lot less than the fetuses being killed by abortion.

No state bans the procedure now. Most want to set a reasonable limit of 24 weeks. The earliest viable birth so far is about 22 weeks.

Some states may ban all abortions in the future. If it's that important you should move to those states. Or use contraception.

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