Earlier in this thread, I mentioned that a murder was solved because of the geolocation data and investigation by True The Vote. Here is a story about the murder: https://www.fox5atlanta.com...in-8-year-olds-death
But of course, they have not yet been convicted, and the data is just a right wing lie so the child murdering gang members should be set free.
edit: Someone is going to discount this because the story is from Fox and it doesn't mention TTV. Watch the movie.
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Originally posted by williegoat:
If he is paying attention to the facts that I just posted, but not the big picture, there is one more challenge that he should make, but I already know the answer.
I used to think that you were seeking the truth. I slowly started to see you rather as an ideologue. Now I am beginning to wonder if you are just a troll. It seems that you are not reading the thread or any articles covering the subject matter. You are simply fabricating objections, one after another, as some sort of game.
Isn't it great that we have drooling lunatic Leftists here to tell everyone that has actually seen the 2,000 Mules movie for themselves what the movie does and doesn't say.
Of course we have one of those same Leftists also posting videos that he didn't watch either so there's that.
The Yuma County Sheriff's Office has opened an investigation and two Buchanan County VA Democrats have been indicted and are facing a total of 94 voting fraud related charges.
A lot of people have been (and still are, I would think) giving money to Trump himself, and to MAGA-aligned PACs. Many small donors. Some big ($) donors. Adding up to lot of money. Money can be used to put investigators and lawyers to work.
I'd be impressed if someone could take one of these "2000 Mules" allegations and pursue it through the justice system to arrive at a judgement. Criminal, or civil (lawsuit.)
I did scroll through a number of the readers'' comments that accompany that article in the Denver Post.
I am quoting myself from the previous page, just to remind all those in attendance that I am ready to be impressed.
As a chronic Internet surfer, my eyes intersect with a number of different media venues during the course of just about every single day.
I'm not looking for MSNBC to keep me updated on these investigations.
If there are "developments", it could well be that this forum, and this thread, is where I will first see the "smoke signals" rising. Maybe a Pennock's exclusive or scoop (so to speak) from "williegoat". Or "olejoedad". Or maybe "2.5".
I am aware that the progression from clues, to investigations, to criminal indictments or civil cases (lawsuits) is usually a "long and winding road."
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Be careful when evaluating the arguments “debunking” the movie. If a person who is not your family member delivers an election ballot, even if properly filled out by a legal voter, it’s still an illegal vote in all 50 states.
You will hear arguments that it hasn’t been proven the ballots were fraudulent, etc. It does not matter. Ballot harvesting is illegal. Period.
Be careful when evaluating the arguments “debunking” the movie. If a person who is not your family member delivers an election ballot, even if properly filled out by a legal voter, it’s still an illegal vote in all 50 states.
You will hear arguments that it hasn’t been proven the ballots were fraudulent, etc. It does not matter. Ballot harvesting is illegal. Period.
every state gets to make up rules that is a part of the problem no standards and no it is not illegal everywhere to move ballots for others yes someplaces it is others it is not or there are other restrictions on who can or can not hand in a ballot to a box or mail box or drop box
------------------ Question wonder and be wierd are you kind?
every state gets to make up rules that is a part of the problem no standards and no it is not illegal everywhere to move ballots for others yes someplaces it is others it is not or there are other restrictions on who can or can not hand in a ballot to a box or mail box or drop box
I posted the rules for the five states discussed in the documentary, and a link to all states.
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Originally posted by ray b:
every state gets to make up rules that is a part of the problem no standards
This is a place where the left and the right strongly disagree. The left wants a strong, centralized government and standards to which all must conform. The right believes that each state should be self governing, to the greatest extent possible.
The right supports the Constitution, we are republicans and conservatives (not necessarily Republicans or Conservatives). The left would prefer to cede power to a small group of aristocrats. They are conformists.
Life is simpler when someone tells you what to do, but richer when you get to decide for yourself. This is at the root of why slavery is a bad idea. Slavery is a centralized government. Free men are autonomous.
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Life is simpler when someone tells you what to do, but richer when you get to decide for yourself. This is at the root of why slavery is a bad idea. Slavery is a centralized government. Free men are autonomous.
BUT THE AREAS WITH A HISTORY OF SLAVERY
were in my lifetime still mistreating people with evil local rules and traditional ''morals'' I donot think Az has a good record with Indian rights ether
but the nut-conned favor evil locals over fictional wrongs by a federal government I like to attack local wrongs as they are far eazyer to reach and tend to be real not myths
yet when the nut-con's see a real free person they tend to attack them or try to set cops and laws on them
I have seen that happen far too often for my liking
------------------ Question wonder and be wierd are you kind?
were in my lifetime still mistreating people with evil local rules and traditional ''morals'' I donot think Az has a good record with Indian rights ether
but the nut-conned favor evil locals over fictional wrongs by a federal government I like to attack local wrongs as they are far eazyer to reach and tend to be real not myths
yet when the nut-con's see a real free person they tend to attack them or try to set cops and laws on them
I have seen that happen far too often for my liking
So, you are advocating for a strong central government. I covered that above in post #132. Your justification is that "locals" are evil. Isn't everyone a local?
I lived in Florida from 1954 until 1969. I remember what Florida, Alabama and Georgia were like back then.
I also know that as far as slavery in the Americas was concerned, the USA accounted for only a small percentage. Brazil had more slaves by far than anywhere else in this hemisphere and the greatest number of slaves were imported by the Portuguese.
It is titled “Georgia investigation dispels allegations highlighted in ‘2000 Mules’” and reports that three cases have been dismissed.
But then it says, “True the Vote hasn’t yet complied with subpoenas issued in April by the State Election Board seeking documents, recordings and names of individuals involved.” OK, this means that they have not yet seen the evidence. But, does it sound like TTV is refusing to comply? I posted a link to the subpoena on the first page of this thread. It says that the deposition will take place on May 26. That is next Thursday, not last week. Think about that for a second. What is the AJC trying to say?
It's a good thing those racist GOP Representatives and Senators passed the Civil Rights Act!
Interesting fact.....the [Civil Rights] Act received more GOP votes for passage than Democratic votes.
In 1964.
Interesting fact.....the Civil Rights Act passed with more GOP than Democratic Party votes in 1964. Like 1964 was just the other day. Like nothing much has changed with the GOP and the Democratic parties since 1964.
Interesting fact.....the Civil Rights Act passed with more GOP than Democratic Party votes in 1964. Like 1964 was just the other day. Like nothing much has changed with the GOP and the Democratic parties since 1964.
I understood what olejoedad said. I mentioned slavery as an example of a strong centralized government, which had been suggested as a solution to election fraud.
Rayb responded with:
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BUT THE AREAS WITH A HISTORY OF SLAVERY
were in my lifetime still mistreating people with evil local rules and traditional ''morals'' I donot think Az has a good record with Indian rights ether
but the nut-conned favor evil locals over fictional wrongs by a federal government I like to attack local wrongs as they are far eazyer to reach and tend to be real not myths
yet when the nut-con's see a real free person they tend to attack them or try to set cops and laws on them
I have seen that happen far too often for my liking
This makes no sense, with regard to the topic, and was simply a hackneyed attempt at deflection and demonization.
Now you post:
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In 1964.
Interesting fact.....the Civil Rights Act passed with more GOP than Democratic Party votes in 1964. Like 1964 was just the other day. Like nothing much has changed with the GOP and the Democratic parties since 1964.
I still don’t understand. You and Rayb become less coherent as time goes by. Either it is by design or perhaps an attempt to emulate our current president.
By the way, 1964 was the year of the Tonkin Gulf “incident”, another LBJ disaster.
every state gets to make up rules that is a part of the problem no standards and no it is not illegal everywhere to move ballots for others yes someplaces it is others it is not or there are other restrictions on who can or can not hand in a ballot to a box or mail box or drop box
Ballot harvesting is illegal because of the ways it might be abused. If I offer $50 for every ballot filled out for my candidate then the whole system collapses as I am buying your vote. But it doesn't have to be a direct payment, it might just be me visiting the old folks home and getting all the people to sign a ballot. The whole system depends on those who wish to participate in democracy to get off their ass and vote. If we cannot trust the system, we cannot trust the results.
That is part of the United States Constitution. Specifically Article 1, Section 4.
Among the many reasons that you lunatic Leftists believe the crazy and bizarre things that you do are: A.) Your complete unfamiliarity with, and immense resentment for, the United States Constitution and... B.) Your absence of any coherent knowledge of even the most basic concepts of American civics and... C.) Owing to both A and B, your slavish devotion to insane, failed, beliefs and ideologies such as statist socialism and outright Marxism.
Leftists gotta Leftist
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were in my lifetime still mistreating people with evil local rules and traditional ''morals'' I donot think Az has a good record with Indian rights ether
but the nut-conned favor evil locals over fictional wrongs by a federal government I like to attack local wrongs as they are far eazyer to reach and tend to be real not myths
yet when the nut-con's see a real free person they tend to attack them or try to set cops and laws on them
I have seen that happen far too often for my liking
do you really understand what the article's were they were a weak gov just what our con's say they want NOW except to jail or kill people ban stuff and have a strong military to do stuff like the abortion laws they want ie NO CHOICE
do you really understand what the article's were they were a weak gov just what our con's say they want NOW except to jail or kill people ban stuff and have a strong military to do stuff like the abortion laws they want ie NO CHOICE
I think you and randy are the ones 180 out
I'm sure you believe everything you post here.
Posting historical facts in response to your claims has no effect on your beliefs, so I'm not going to waste my time.
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Posting historical facts in response to your claims has no effect on your beliefs, so I'm not going to waste my time.
time better spent cheerleading for randy's lies and BS here ?
I know history far better then most here I do NOT believe things I learn about then and get to know how stuff went down a large bit of school taught history is cover ups and smoke screens not so much the who or where or when but very much on the whys and hows those are the important bits they hide
our first government was weak just like the con's say they want for sure it was not in any way too strong
This is a colorfully written column from Bulwark political columnist Amanda Carpenter; also a CNN contributor, author, and formerly, communications director for Ted Cruz and speechwriter for former U.S. Senator Jim DeMint.
It would be a valuable addition to anyone's "2000 Mules" library.
I've only scrolled through it quickly to get some idea about its relative significance within the genre of "2000 Mules" reviews and critiques.
The fifth paragraph from the top provides links to four other online critiques of "2000 Mules" from the Washington Post, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Denver Post and PolitiFact, respectively.
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Originally posted by ray b: I know history far better then most here I do NOT believe things I learn about then and get to know how stuff went down a large bit of school taught history is cover ups and smoke screens not so much the who or where or when but very much on the whys and hows those are the important bits they hide
our first government was weak just like the con's say they want for sure it was not in any way too strong
You only know the history THEY want you to know. And Google will put history they want you to know up front first. One has to DIG for the truth.
MiKhelob Ultra
I'm curious why those who were released from ICE custody with ankle monitors, were then changed to cell phones, but according to the nay sayers and flakcheckers, it works for them.
time better spent cheerleading for randy's lies and BS here ?
I know history far better then most here I do NOT believe things I learn about then and get to know how stuff went down a large bit of school taught history is cover ups and smoke screens not so much the who or where or when but very much on the whys and hows those are the important bits they hide
our first government was weak just like the con's say they want for sure it was not in any way too strong
I'm sure my Minor in US History is worthless then. And I shouldn't believe the writings of the Founding Fathers. We won't even talk about the Federalist Papers, they don't hold any truth either. I wasted my education....😟
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I'm sure my Minor in US History is worthless then. And I shouldn't believe the writings of the Founding Fathers. We won't even talk about the Federalist Papers, they don't hold any truth either. I wasted my education....😟
well you mix eras very easily Federalist Papers are after George W and have nothing to do with the articles of CON-federation while the articles of CON-federation are before George W was president and dead and gone by the time of the Federalist Papers
guess that was a minor not your main subject
------------------ Question wonder and be wierd are you kind?
do you really understand what the article's were they were a weak gov just what our con's say they want NOW except to jail or kill people ban stuff and have a strong military to do stuff like the abortion laws they want ie NO CHOICE
I think you and randy are the ones 180 out
I don't think you understand what the word "Confederacy" means, and whenever you read it you jump right to "Ooooh, South Bad" since the Left has bastardized all words.
Perhaps more history and less woke would help here.
