On the edge of Edgartown Great Pond, Martha's Vineyard. Massachusetts. Obama's seaside villa estate. It's a sea level rise "magnet"... the long term prospects of staying above water or avoiding damage from storm surge or other coastal flooding scenarios... he's either not thinking long term, or he has great confidence that the world will be able to "put the brakes" on global warming.
If you want to turn this into a game, acquaint yourself with the NOAA's Sea Level Rise Viewer. An interactive map that you can use to display the anticipated effects of sea level rise. Use a slider control to dial in how much sea level rise, above where sea level is today.
I doubt anyone would want to do this on a mobile phone. But a desktop system with a full size video monitor, or a tablet or a notebook...
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Speaking of Obama's houses... can someone answer me this? When he was in the Illinois Senate, he had a net worth less than AOCs... that was what... 2005?
Now he has 3, possibly 4 houses...
Hawaii Mansion ($8.7 Million): An enormous mansion in Hawaii (almost complete)... Robin Master's home from Magnum P.I., which he got the historical society to de-designate, and had leveled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdcfHY6M76A
DuPont Circle, D.C. ($8.1 Million): A really fancy home in DuPont Circle, Washington D.C. (which they were renting and just bought): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmp56PQhbJY
Chicago Home: And their home in Chicago... that is unknown if they still own it...
On the edge of Edgartown Great Pond, Martha's Vineyard. Massachusetts. Obama's seaside villa estate. It's a sea level rise "magnet"... the long term prospects of staying above water or avoiding damage from storm surge or other coastal flooding scenarios... he's either not thinking long term, or he has great confidence that the world will be able to "put the brakes" on global warming.
Is this being done through:
Economic freedom?
Market choice?
Authoritarianism?
Climate-facism?
Fed DICTATING what private enterprise can produce?
All the above?
Who determines the outcome of the world? Who are "the world"? It's most definitely not the 99%
Did former President Barack "no one is more Irish" Obama do the math on this? Martha's should've been underwater long ago according to past FAILED Miss Cleo predictions.
Just keep programming/indoctrinating/grooming the youth (that survive). Social engineering, like geo engineering, is all you can do. Sick psychopathic control freaks.
On the edge of Edgartown Great Pond, Martha's Vineyard. Massachusetts. Obama's seaside villa estate. It's a sea level rise "magnet"... the long term prospects of staying above water or avoiding damage from storm surge or other coastal flooding scenarios... he's either not thinking long term, or he has great confidence that the world will be able to "put the brakes" on global warming. ...
...or he recognizes, like the rest of us, that the entire scenario is just the greenies' scare-mongering, and that the oceans are going to stay pretty much where they are for the foreseeable (and not-so-foreseeable) future.
He's actually bet more money on it than I have earned (or probably will earn) for my entire life. Sounds like a pretty safe bet to me.
Speaking of Obama's houses... can someone answer me this? When he was in the Illinois Senate, he had a net worth less than AOCs... that was what... 2005?
Now he has 3, possibly 4 houses...
Hawaii Mansion ($8.7 Million): An enormous mansion in Hawaii (almost complete)... Robin Master's home from Magnum P.I., which he got the historical society to de-designate, and had leveled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdcfHY6M76A
DuPont Circle, D.C. ($8.1 Million): A really fancy home in DuPont Circle, Washington D.C. (which they were renting and just bought): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmp56PQhbJY
Chicago Home: And their home in Chicago... that is unknown if they still own it...
How did Obama get this much money?
That's why the Hildabeast got the Sec State job. Clinton and Biden are old money Dems (10% for the Big Guy). Now Barak is too.
Oh, how cute. Another meme. It looks like a decorative sign that could go on the wall of someone's kitchen or den. But why would anyone consider it truthful, since it's from the very same source (on this forum) as this other meme with the volcano...
... which was "shot at and missed and sh*t at and hit" on the previous page of this thread... debunked until it had flatlined and got flushed down the toilet like the funeral ceremony for a child's pet goldfish. And in other news...
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The FBI arrested a New York Republican election commissioner on Tuesday. Jason Schofield, 42, of Troy, New York, was arraigned before U.S. Magistrate Judge Daniel J. Stewart on an indictment charging him with unlawfully using the names and dates of birth of voters to fraudulently apply for absentee ballots for elections held in Rensselaer County in 2021.
Voter fraud. Must be a leftist Republican. Because the "sign" says... A leftist Republican. Whobody knew?
The erect ' leg hairs ' a telltale, when the deranged creeper sniffed the girls with the onesies, the preteens. ' Say mister, is that a cigar in your shorts, or are you happy to see me ? ' Later, the pretendadent self aggrandized his poolside manners with the roaches, ' CornPop was a bad dude. ' See, the deranged fake doesn't have any effs to give, perverting the Constitution. fjb, the pervert. The imbecile will start a global war by his weakness'. 25th the maroon.
The more the democrats hate the Trump supporters, the more the truth will be exposed. Mainstream propaganda is what's at risk of being exposed.
TRUTH AND THE TRUMP
are opposites never ever to meet
but some how the rump=pets never ever see the lies he tells
and we say no to the claimed hate that is your delusion as the rump's transfer the hate for lies from your guy to somehow being hate for the poor fools who believe the LIES that is the conned part of being a con your side believes things that are not and never ever were truth like hate for the conned no fear and pity is what we do feel about the conned and their active efforts to destroy our government
Just another phoney-baloney meme from people who know nothing about climate science—or any science.
This latest meme from "Wichita" is not an interpretation, or "spin". It's outright deception. A photo-shopped representation of a CNN report that doesn't exist.
I just found one of the best websites (IMO) on climate change and global warming. The presentation is concise and well organized. It's the fast way to learn about the most basic realities of climate science, and leave the stupidity of memes (like that one) behind. It's from NASA and it's very up to date.
One level down in this website hierarchy are the "Vital Signs" that reveal how the earth's climate has been heating up, even over just the most recent years from 2000 to 2020. This is the page for Global Temperature: https://climate.nasa.gov/vi.../global-temperature/
The other "Vital Signs" are Carbon Dioxide, Arctic Sea Ice, Ice Sheets (Antarctica and Greenland), Sea Level and Ocean Warming. Each has its own page that is easy to navigate.
It's easy to go back to media headlines and news reports from bygone years and pretend that climate researchers were only "crying wolf." The actual, published research from scientists tended to be more guarded and carefully worded.
Don't fall for phoney-baloney memes about climate change like this latest one from Wichita.
I guess it's a hobby for him.
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Seems like you never get it right. Have you ever heard of a magnet? Quit literally polar opposites exist within a single piece of metal. I deleted the rest of your response without even reading it, but this sentence is laughable so I pointed out your falt.
Just another phoney-baloney meme from people who know nothing about climate science—or any science.
This latest meme from "Wichita" is not an interpretation, or "spin". It's outright deception. A photo-shopped representation of a CNN report that doesn't exist.
I just found one of the best websites (IMO) on climate change and global warming. The presentation is concise and well organized. It's the fast way to learn about the most basic realities of climate science, and leave the stupidity of memes (like that one) behind. It's from NASA and it's very up to date.
One level down in this website hierarchy are the "Vital Signs" that reveal how the earth's climate has been heating up, even over just the most recent years from 2000 to 2020. This is the page for Global Temperature: https://climate.nasa.gov/vi.../global-temperature/
The other "Vital Signs" are Carbon Dioxide, Arctic Sea Ice, Ice Sheets (Antarctica and Greenland), Sea Level and Ocean Warming. Each has its own page that is easy to navigate.
It's easy to go back to media headlines and news reports from bygone years and pretend that climate researchers were only "crying wolf."
The actual, published research from scientists tended to be more guarded and carefully worded.
Don't fall for phoney-baloney memes about climate change like this latest one from Wichita.
I guess it's a hobby for him.
I've YET to see you say a darn tooting thang about China and their multiple coal burning power plants being constructed. Probably energy needed for all those manufacturing plants for processing PETROLEUM into plastic and lipo batteries. All those EV the establishment elitists
All about destroying the yoU/ni(gh)ted the States (turning the lights out permanently)
(But from darkness, there will be light again, FJB Trump 2024)
Hmmmnn. ' So, the time is now, to prepare for a global catastrophe made by Mother Nature ! ' ' Yeah, she's like a bad mother, leaving you, her children, home alone without diapers, milk or someone to care. Went to the rave to hook up, forgot all about you for a few days of fentanyl and crack, the boys all in. ' Ice age precursor variations in atmospheric shading, the volcanic products inducing radical temperature drops far to the south. Crop failures around the planet in spring and summer of '23, the Seine River's estuary freezes a meter thick. ' We have never seen climate change like this in all written history ! ' Seine River : Honfleur, France Got froze.
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I've YET to see you say a darn tooting thang about China and their multiple coal burning power plants being constructed. Probably energy needed for all those manufacturing plants for processing PETROLEUM into plastic and lipo batteries. All those EV the establishment elitists
All about destroying the yoU/ni(gh)ted the States (turning the lights out permanently)
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I'm not in favor of doing anything that would "destroy" the United States and leave China as the new and unrivaled global superpower.
Moving away from fossil fuels and gasoline and diesel-powered road vehicles has many advantages for the people who are going to be living in the United States. It's not just about reducing CO2, methane and other greenhouse gas emissions—that is only the prevention of extreme Global Warming part of it.
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A man had a home in Nantucket, When the sea level rose he said “chuck it.”
"A fight over Nantucket’s eroding [shoreline] pits neighbor against neighbor"
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In an increasingly litigious conflict, the island’s residents are clashing over how to deal with the effects of climate change: Push back or accept what’s coming?
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Houses along Baxter Road on the island of Nantucket have always been precarious real estate: property at the edge of the world with a built-in expiration date.
Baxter runs parallel to Sconset Bluff, a stunning sand escarpment on the easternmost point of the Massachusetts island — the boomerang-shaped wedge of sand and clay 30 miles south of Cape Cod. Some say that when a developer carved the area into lots, he anticipated the inevitable when he made each parcel a double lot bisected by the road, giving owners a place to retreat from the encroaching sea. Climate change has only made the place more vulnerable, as sea level rise and fiercer storms have accelerated the natural processes of a sandy coast. In the last two decades, Sconset Bluff has been eroding at a rate of roughly three or four feet every year.
Through the years, some homeowners have retreated, moving their houses as far back as their lots allowed, often as much as 75 or 100 feet; others moved across the street. Still others, disheartened and frightened, moved their houses into town or, heartbreakingly, demolished them.
During the brutal winter that followed Hurricane Sandy, a final, late-season nor’easter in March of 2013 tore 30 feet from the bluff, and the town of Nantucket decided that nature had gone far enough.
The town allowed a group of homeowners to try to protect their property, if they were willing to foot the bill themselves. For what would eventually swell to a cost of $10 million, these owners installed some 900 feet of what are known as geotubes — imagine a sort of soft sea wall, made from plastic fiber and filled with sand, like a giant sand burrito — at the base of the cliff, just east of their homes.
The project ignited a conflict that is still roiling the island: The battle for the bluff, as some have called it, has become an existential crisis about what to do in the face of climate change, as neighbors challenge neighbors over whose property is more important, and the town and courts attempt to referee. The conflict mirrors those playing out in coastal communities around the world: Do you protect the properties along the coast, or practice what’s known as “managed retreat,” which is what coastal scientists advise and most communities are not yet ready to face?
DON'T build your cottage up there on the bluff we told them.
DON'T build anywhere East of Walsh Street we told them.
Sure it's a great view out onto the Atlantic but it's a BAD place to build we told them.
The bluff and the 'Sconset Beach below the bluff has been eroding away for OVER 250 YEARS we told them.
It used to be a very small Cape long ago we told them.
You can't swim from 'Sconset Beach because the rip current and undertow is deadly we told them.
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Meanwhile every home just 1/2 mile North of the bluffs on Sankaty Head BEACH ....AT SEA LEVEL, (many of them there over 170 years), are just fine.
Also meanwhile just 1/2 mile South of those bluffs my Aunt's cottage on Siasconset BEACH....AT SEA LEVEL... has been there over 150 years is just fine and has just as much beach in front of it as ever.
God I loved the summers we used to spend there. Taking the ferry from Woods Hole out to the island. Riding our bicycles to Jetties Beach and snorkeling in COLD water to catch as many lobsters as we could carry back home for dinner. Great times as a kid.
Leftists gotta Leftist ...because they are "true believers" in their "religion of climate calamity".
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This Internet page link, should anyone choose to activate it, brings into view a singe page of text and data visualizations. It's short and to the point. Plainly worded. Easy for anyone to read and comprehend. A "two minute drill" (to borrow some National Football League terminology) on Carbon Dioxide and Climate Change.
As far as these other media reports that were just posted by Wichita, see them for what they are. They could be discussed on their own merits (or lack thereof) but they have no direct connection or relation to the climate science that is so conveniently summarized on this NASA website that I just made so conveniently accessible "4 U".
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Anyone see the God Complex that one of the squad members of Congress showed today? 🤣
With a panel of CEOs from all the major banks here testifying in from of Congress.
Rep. Tliad demanded that they promise to her (of course via zoom because she is a fake Covid scare monger) that they don't fund it invest in oil and gas companies ever.
CEO Jamie Dimon response: "Absolutely not and that would be the road to Hell for America." 🤣
I'm glad they are sticking up for common sense and the American People and not complitulate to the grifting left and anti-science fanatics like the leftist squad.
This meme (I guess it's a meme) was posted previously in this thread by someone who's been harping about what he asserts is the "anti-science" thinking or attitude among what he calls the political "Left"... progressives, liberals, Democrats, anyone who doesn't "diss" the idea that the planet is warming (overall) or that human activities are contributing mightily to this planetary or "global" warming, anyone who perceives that the endless proliferation of memes that "diss"Greta Thunberg are even more tiresome than Greta Thunberg herself... etc.
I've already pointed out that it's not melting icebergs that contribute to rising sea levels. It's the melting of land ice, including the ice sheets that cover the landmasses of Greenland and Antarctica, and glaciers in mountainous areas around the world. So this meme is a "red herring". It's a "crock". There are likely any number of people who are not well versed in the science and have the mistaken idea that the melting of icebergs and other sea ice is connected with rising sea levels, but that doesn't mean these people are anti-science. They're just not well versed in the science.
Now I'm back (who could have seen that coming/) to remind anyone who might be reading along here (always a speculative conjecture) that there's another factor that contributes to rising sea levels. It's the thermal expansion of seawaters as the oceans continue to warm in response to the increasing air temperatures that are the essence of global warming. This is just high school or middle school knowledge of physics, and easily confirmed by the simplest of laboratory experiments.
What do you call it when people of a certain ilk are constantly jabbering (via memes) about the "anti-science of the Left" in ways that reveal that these very same people of a certain ilk are even more dumb about science, themselves?
I call it "ridiculous".
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The inconvenient (for the alarmists) truth is that this was the first hurricane - of any size - to hit the US, all season.
Before you start prattling on ("But... but... but...") I can remember when I was a preteen, and my father used to travel all over the Gulf coast and Florida. I remember him being "stalked" by several hurricanes each year, while he was on business trips. I still remember seeing his pictures of Gulfport and Biloxi, after Camille, from 1969.
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The inconvenient (for the alarmists) truth is that this was the first hurricane - of any size - to hit the US, all season.
YUP
"For the 2022 hurricane season, NOAA is forecasting a likely range of 14 to 21 named storms (winds of 39 mph or higher), of which 6 to 10 could become hurricanes (winds of 74 mph or higher), including 3 to 6 major hurricanes (category 3, 4 or 5; with winds of 111 mph or higher). NOAA provides these ranges with a 70% confidence."
