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87,000 more IRS agents? TIME debunks misleading rant from Republicans, MAGA World'ers by rinselberg
Started on: 08-10-2022 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by Wichita:

So, the IRS exposes the confidential information of more than 180,000 individuals with certain types of business income and retirement plans. Then said oops, it was human error.

I'm sure this "accident" and we will see more in the press in the coming months of so called 'shortcomings' of the IRS so they can justify their use for more than 87,000 new IRS employees.

Mark my word, these type of articles will come out like clockwork, probably every week for the next three months.


https://www.wsj.com/article...232?mod=hp_lead_pos3



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Originally posted by Wichita:

The left take from others. The 87k of leftist who will threaten you with a gun to your head if you don't pay up to the Jabba the Left.

Gig Economy businesses in the crosshairs.




This will be fantastic. The majority of the people who work in the Gig-economy are on the left.


Things like "GoFundMe..."

I saw a GoFundMe for a leftist female couple that crashed their car. They weren't carrying insurance, and crashed it on the way back from a party. One of the girls is afraid they're going to be fired from work so they set up a GoFundMe. A bunch of people donated to them...


This is hardly what anyone would call a charity, and what these girls don't realize is that the IRS now issues a 1099 for these things. The IRS has typically not done anything with it, except for in extreme cases... but you can expect all of these super-lib GoFundMe campaigns to start getting targeted. This will undoubtedly create an international exchange where people will instead start donating money through crypto so it can't be tracked, but people still (at least at this point), need to be able to deposit money into a checking account... why do you think the IRS passed a law saying they wanted to be able to see any deposits over $600?

Here's a super-liberal "fact check" of that bill: https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...s-reality/ar-AAOYrA3

And even though they put 1000+ words refuting it, the one line that you need to actually read: "While the claim is based in reality..."


I can't wait... really, I can't. This is going to be fantastic.
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Just wait until we have the renters crisis and the left begging for a bailout there, this is after having rent suspended for a better part of a year under Covid, not to include the unemployment checks and that extra $600 a week the leftist were getting.





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Show me your bank account.



This **** can't be real... none of these people at all qualify for special agent status. All of the women are overweight, and the guy is handicapped. I have nothing against any of that, but there's no agency that would allow anyone in this lineup to be a Federal agent. Is this like some kind of... "Pretend to be a special agent for a day" thing?
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This **** can't be real... none of these people at all qualify for special agent status. All of the women are overweight, and the guy is handicapped. I have nothing against any of that, but there's no agency that would allow anyone in this lineup to be a Federal agent. Is this like some kind of... "Pretend to be a special agent for a day" thing?


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"Cover"

Those are prospective IRS undercover agents.

The suspected tax fraud perpetrators will never see it coming when they're approached by a portly female "pinniped" or a man who's on a "roll" like that guy in the photo.

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So a guy in a wheelchair is posing either tazing, threatening or shooting a person whose back is turned and appears to have their hands restrained behind the back.

This photo is just dripping with symbolism, and I would suspect is posed or photoshopped.
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90,000 agents are going to get board with rich people lawyers and go after the real target VERY QUICKLY. The FAT rich middle class
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If the IRS hires a person for IT support, is that a "new IRS agent"..?

If the IRS hires a person for their clerical skills, to perform general office-related tasks—but not to audit any tax returns or assist specifically and directly in countering tax fraud or IRS enforcement actions—is that a "new IRS agent"..?

If the IRS hires a Human Resources manager, is that a "new IRS agent"..?

If the IRS hires staff for the purpose of expanding its (telephone) calls answering services, or other aspects of dealing with the public—but not to audit any tax returns or assist specifically and directly in countering tax fraud or IRS enforcement actions—is that a "new IRS agent"..?

These are rhetorical questions, posed to this forum with the expectation that the answer, in each case, is "No."

These are rhetorical questions, posted to this forum to express why I believe this proliferation of various image memes and other references to "90,000 (new) IRS agents (etc.)" is misleading and disingenuous.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

If the IRS hires a person for IT support, is that a "new IRS agent"..?

If the IRS hires a person for their clerical skills, to perform.........


When the IRS targets the middle class,..... Rinselberg, does it matter if they are new or old? Seriously, the fact is that the IRS is coming to get the middle class. They will target the tax wrightoffs and loop holes. The middle class has ALWAYS been the target of revenue. 90,000 IRS "personnel" will grow tired of battling the lawyers of the "rich" and attack the fat middle class and their horded, ill-gotten riches. LETS GO BRANDON
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I'm in favor of more complete and more consistent enforcement of the federal tax codes all across the board, from the lowest to the highest levels of income.

There should not be large discrepancies between how the tax codes are calculated to work, and how they actually work, in terms of collecting the revenue that are due to the federal government. Whatever the income level of the entity or person(s) that are being taxed.

The tax codes should not have to be calculated in a way that tries to compensate for the expectation of non-compliance. In other words, the tax rate should not have to be set higher because of an expectation that some taxpayers will not be compliant. That is a "stochastic" method of tax collection. I favor a "deterministic" method of tax collection.

Why is deterministic better than stochastic? Because stochastic leaves too much to chance. To randomness. It's in the very name.

The IRS should have enough staffing and other resources to effect a deterministic model.

Is that what's going to happen? I won't say it's a certainty. But that's why I like the part of the Inflation Reduction Act that describes a general "plussing up" of the IRS.

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I'm in favor of more complete and more consistent enforcement of the federal tax codes all across the board, from the lowest to the highest levels of income.




LOLOLOLOO, and there is the bait and switch. Say it's about getting the "rich" tax cheats, to getting the middle and poor too. LOLOLOLOL. Thanks Rinselberg for validating what the Conservatives have been saying all along. The 90,000 irs "employees" are going to target the fat rich middle class. We all know the leftists won't allow that equal tax collection of poor will happen, so we can rule them out as targets. The "rich" hire lawyers to protect them and guess who is left to pay the bills,....... that's right.... the middle class fat cats.
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Five IRS employees stole COVID relief funds to buy Gucci, trips to Las Vegas...


https://www.foxbusiness.com...tice-department-says


Just the Democratic Party foxes guarding the hen house.

Multiply that by 187,000 IRS employees.
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Originally posted by Wichita:

Five IRS employees stole COVID relief funds to buy Gucci, trips to Las Vegas...
https://www.foxbusiness.com...tice-department-says

Just the Democratic Party foxes guarding the hen house.

Multiply that by 187,000 IRS employees.

What information could Wichita possibly have that would connect these five IRS employees with the Democratic Party or mark them as likely Democratic Party voters or supporters? And how were these Covid-grifting IRS employees ferreted out as miscreants and charged by the U.S. Department of Justice? What information could Wichita possibly have to say that there were not Democratic Party-leaning individuals involved in that investigative work?

"Put up or shut up."

That's my reaction to these remarks.

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