Originally posted by cliffw: Did you ignore my questions ? Whay keeps that windmill from floating into shipping lanes?
Floating offshore wind turbines are like ships at anchor. The ship floats, but the anchor line(s) keep the ship from floating free. Behold, floating offshore wind turbine anchors or mooring systems:
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Originally posted by cliffw: Did you ignore my questions ? Whay keeps that windmill from floating into shipping lanes?
Floating offshore wind turbines are like ships at anchor. The ship floats, but the anchor line(s) keep the ship from floating free. Behold, floating offshore wind turbine anchors or mooring systems:
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This video essentially disputes some of the comments that have been made over the past week since this breakthrough happened:
"It produced more energy than the lasers had deposited... 2 megajules in, 3 megajules out."
I'm not really sure HOW this is possible... creating more energy from less energy, but if the law of energy still holds true, it's coming from somewhere, but this is a very significant breakthrough.
What it is NOT; however, is that which all the lefties on Twitter are saying. This does not mean energy will be free ... nothing is free. It also does not mean that the Star Trek utopia comes to reality, we are probably a decade away from even seeing even an inkling of any benefit from it. It will definitely help mankind... but this is a first step.
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This video essentially disputes some of the comments that have been made over the past week since this breakthrough happened:
"It produced more energy than the lasers had deposited... 2 megajules in, 3 megajules out."
I'm not really sure HOW this is possible... creating more energy from less energy, but if the law of energy still holds true, it's coming from somewhere, but this is a very significant breakthrough.
What it is NOT; however, is that which all the lefties on Twitter are saying. This does not mean energy will be free ... nothing is free. It also does not mean that the Star Trek utopia comes to reality, we are probably a decade away from even seeing even an inkling of any benefit from it. It will definitely help mankind... but this is a first step.
I don't even have to go onto Twitter to know that there could not be a bigger mistake than for someone to say that "all the lefties on Twitter are saying" that this fusion milestone means that "energy will be [or should be] free" in any foreseeably near-term future scenario.
People who line up with the idea of reducing carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions for the sake of Climate know full well that in all likelihood, significant energy production from nuclear fusion is still decades in the future, even under the most optimistic scenarios. These people have no time for the idea of abandoning wind and solar, or nuclear fission power reactors, or whatever else they are in favor of instead of fossil fuels, and just waiting for nuclear fusion reactors to become a practical reality.
"All the lefties on Twitter are saying ..." must be a small number of persons, indeed. Are you sure they aren't just "bots" that Elon hasn't been able to eliminate?
Krakatoa pops again, inducing a catastrophic cooling, failing crops, consecutive years of cold summers, glaciers move into the valleys, snows fail to melt at much lower latitudes. Ocean levels drop a few millimeters. Polar bears are tracked on the north shore of Lake Superior, hundreds of miles south of their historical range, interbreeding with black bears, monster hybrids, carnivorous monster bears. The Thames River in London freezes over, again.
My. That was a lame try. You show me an artist's rendition of an idea and call it settled science. Without answering my other questions.
You said this theory has existed for 40 years. 40 years of experience. I asked you, "What experience?"
Did you ignore my question, or, do you just not know what you preach about?
Let's have the GIF that I posted, again: It's just an animated image that I kind of casually tossed into the conversation for some "eye candy." It's from whatever group (I'd have to look it up) is taking credit for developing and installing the world's first floating offshore wind energy project or "wind farm." It says "Based on more than 40 years of offshore experience."
"Based on more than 40 years of offshore experience." That is not to be read as more than 40 years of floating offshore wind energy experience. Just "offshore experience." If you think about "more than 40 years" that goes back to before 1982. It's offshore experience of various kinds. Some of it would be offshore wind energy, but closer onshore, so that the wind turbines are on foundations that extend all the way down into to the seabed. These are not floating offshore wind turbines. They are the currently far more common offshore wind turbines that do not float.
But it's not just wind energy. More than 40 years of offshore experience could (and undoubtedly does) include construction and installation of offshore oil and gas facilities. If not that, it could include offshore construction for container ship ports. Or other kinds of offshore construction. Bridges.
So "cliffw" is not understanding this GIF that I posted, in a kind of offhand manner. He was not understanding it, but now he is understanding it.
This isn't "theory". Floating offshore wind energy projects are already installed and operating, and there is more than just one such project already in operation.
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Only a handful of mostly small demonstration projects have been developed so far, totalling around 125 megawatts, according to a Department of Energy report published earlier this year. The largest floating farm in the world so far is the nearly 50-megawatt Kincardine project off the shores of Scotland. There are also small projects operating in China, Japan, France, Norway, and Portugal, the report notes.
There are big plans to build more globally. The total capacity of projects in the pipeline—including large sites in Australia, Brazil, South Korea, and the United Kingdom—doubled in 2021, to more than 60 gigawatts.
The Biden administration has set a US goal of developing 15 gigawatts of floating wind by 2035 and established a program designed to cut the cost of the technology by 70% over that time. (It’s also aiming to build 30 gigawatts of all types of offshore wind by 2030.)
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Originally posted by rinselberg: "Based on more than 40 years of offshore experience." That is not to be read as more than 40 years of floating offshore wind energy experience. Just "offshore experience." If you think about "more than 40 years" that goes back to before 1982.
My, you are right. Ships had anchors way before 1982.
You told us, that you have ridden a horse, one time. To the destination, and walked back. Have you ever been one a boat ?
There were anchors when man first sailed the ocean blue. Considerably more time than 40 years.
Do you not know the answer to the question I asked you ?
My, you are right. Ships had anchors way before 1982.
You told us, that you have ridden a horse, one time. To the destination, and walked back. Have you ever been one a boat?
There were anchors when man first sailed the ocean blue. Considerably more time than 40 years.
Do you not know the answer to the question I asked you?
"Having been on a boat" encompasses a number of widely varied possibilities. But to cut to the chase: yes, I've been on a boat. More than once. I've been on various boats of various kinds on various occasions in various years.
I'm not sure what other question of me you are bringing up here. Is it about this other image that I posted?
I just posted it as eye candy. Wind energy-themed eye candy. I think it's amusing in that way. A very small amusement, to be sure.
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Several years ago, I toured the USS Hornet floating museum in nearby Alameda. The aircraft carrier that was the focal point of the recovery operations for the Mercury space capsules (if memory serves me.) That was moored to a dock. So I guess that's not what you mean by being on a boat that's at anchor. Or maybe it is.
I have no idea where you're going with this line of questioning.
Originally posted by rinselberg: I have no idea where you're going with this line of questioning.
Again, thank you.
I am only questioning your preaching. Do you believe what you say, or not.
You say 40 years of experience, you won't say where it came from, now you claim it was first when man sailed the ocean blue. Considerably more than 40 years.
Don't tell any one. I do know when those 40 years started.
I am going to make you say it. I do not believe you are that ignorant.
There's so much new wind energy-related material that I like to post every day (and even multiple times a day) that it takes two threads to keep up with it all.
There's so much new wind energy-related material that I like to post every day (and even multiple times a day) that it takes two threads to keep up with it all.
