Originally posted by Raydar: And, of course, many of the Dems will laugh because I'm espousing a belief in the "invisible man". My question to those individuals would be, why does it matter what I believe, as long as I don't force my beliefs on you? Conversely, why do you feel the need to force your "non-belief" and derision on believers? This does not just include the Dems, here. It's other people I have to deal with on a day-to-day basis.
The invisible Man isn't as bad as the orange man. That's a bridge too far for most Democrats.
I don’t give a crap if you feel the need to kill an unborn child…..just don’t make my tax dollars pay for it or force doctors/ hospitals to perform it. If you want your state to allow it….whatever. It a personal issue and one day you’ll have to face your maker and account for your actions. Humans are inherently evil by nature….always have been. Everybody sins…a sin is a sin….bad is bad….and now everybody gets to decide what they think is good or bad. You want to drink yourself to death…have at it….Drugs….all yours…kill your unborn….dick move….I guess sex controls your life….I feel sorry for you.
It (abortion) is a personal issue and one day you’ll have to face your maker and account for your actions.
That would be great if we could all just leave it at that... but unfortunately, there are those who wish to control what other people do that is no damn business of theirs.
First... people, of all ages, are going to have sex. They have for countless generations, in spite of their parents' best efforts. Second... I believe abortion is wrong. Period. But it's a reality of our times. I'd much rather it be obsolete, due to responsible education, and common availability of birth control. Third... I also believe that it's not my place to stop anyone from having an abortion. None of my business. (God gave us a choice. If free will is denied, it's not really a choice, is it.) But I also believe that anyone who has an abortion will have to answer for it at some time. That's between them and God. This is not to judge. Not saying anyone's going to hell. Just not my business.
I just thought that "orange man", from 92-T/A [At Work], called for something of this kind.
Personally, no offense to anyone, but I was never really a fan of the 1990-1992 Pontiac TransAm body style. I liked the 1989 style, and then again from 1998+
I had a 1982 TransAm. Unfortunately, I can't find a single picture of the one I had... which is OK, it wasn't in good shape. Honestly, it was a piece of **** . Back when I used to be a Democrat, I had a small apartment that I rented with a roommate. There was this really ghetto used car delaership called "Pink Flamingo Motors." It was great, I wish I could find it... but it was this old 1940s gas station where everything had been torn down except the service building. It was painted pink, and they had a bunch of really beat to **** cars sitting on the lot.
They all "ran," and the prices were $250 or $500 bucks.
I got my 82 TransAm for $250 bucks. It was a Cross-Fire Injection T/A that had been converted to a carburetor. It had no spark or timing advance, but it cruised really well at 35 miles an hour ... which was all I needed to get back and forth to work from the hardware store that I was working when I was going to Community College (at the time). Loved that car. I did a burnout in the parking lot, and the engine threw a rod right through the pan in the parking lot at exactly (and I **** you not) 150,000 miles on the odometer.
The oil caught fire, and my friends helped me push the car out of the way so it wouldn't catch fire.
Originally posted by Raydar: And, of course, many of the Dems will laugh because I'm espousing a belief in the "invisible man". My question to those individuals would be, why does it matter what I believe, as long as I don't force my beliefs on you? Conversely, why do you feel the need to force your "non-belief" and derision on believers?
Sorry, but I don't know of any non-believers who are trying to control what believers do with their own bodies.
All I see is believers trying to force their beliefs on non-believers.
Originally posted by olejoedad: What did he miss?.
He missed the fact that our country is not being destroyed and, in fact, is doing better in some areas than when he was President.
He also missed the fact that the guy who he claims has a first grade education kicked his ass in an election. What does it say about Trump to lose to a guy with a first grade education?
Originally posted by fredtoast: He missed the fact that our country is not being destroyed and, in fact, is doing better in some areas than when he was President.
He also missed the fact that the guy who he claims has a first grade education kicked his ass in an election. What does it say about Trump to lose to a guy with a first grade education?
Trump claimed that Mr. biden has the IQ of a first grader, not a first grade education.
Another falsehood from you.
That's not a he first falsehood that you have posted on this Forum, nor the first that I have called you out on.
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Where are the links that you ALWAYS post to prove your facts are correct?
All I see are personal observations and your opinion based on those observations.
You said it, so it's up to you to prove it.
Do you understand the logical problem of "proving a negative"? I can't post a link to something that does not exist, i.e. "non-believers forcing believers to have abortions. It will be up to you to post something to prove that wrong.
As for believers trying to force what non-believers do I am sorry that you were not aware of this. The religious community is strongly behind the changing of laws to force their beliefs on others.
https://www.oca.org/the-hub...istians-and-abortion What is the most effective way to bear witness to our belief that we exist because of God's love? This belief is at the root of the Orthodox opposition to abortion and to every other detail of the holiness of every human life.
Working to change the legal climate makes good sense and is one valuable form of pro-life witness.
Then there is the Texas Representative that proposed a law that would make abortion punishable as murder. Here is why. . . “As a God-fearing conservative, there is no duty more important than protecting innocent life."
I could post about a hundred more if you wish. You still want to insist that you had never heard the religious right's position on abortion laws?
Trump claimed that Mr. biden has the IQ of a first grader, not a first grade education.
Another falsehood from you.
That's not a he first falsehood that you have posted on this Forum, nor the first that I have called you out on.
Again I don't see how this sematic argument changes anything I said.
Aree you really going to argue that it is okay for trump to lose to a person with "the IQ of a first grader" but not to a person "with a first grade education"
You guys resort to the silliest games when you can't deal with facts.
I was addressing your statement of opinion and that you hadn't posted any links to prove the opinion that you stated as fact.
Please try and keep up with the conversation.
I am doing better than "keeping up". I just posted links to support my position. I was just a little surprised that you were unaware of the religious right's position on abortion laws. You seemed a little smarter tha that.
Now it is your turn to post links proving me wrong.
I'm not sure that you understand the difference between fact and opinion..
Yes I do.
When a person claims he is supporting extreme anti-abortion legislation because God told him to that is a FACT. Tell me how it isn't.
When the church says it is their duty to pass anti-abortion laws that is a FACT. Tell me how it isn't.
Religious conservatives are trying to force their religious beliefs on non-believers by passing laws to control their behavior. That is a FACT. tell me how it isn't.
It is not my OPINION that they said these things. It is a FACT.
I can't believe I am really having this discussion with an adult. How did you not know about the religious rights position on abortion laws/ do you never read or listen to any news at all?
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