Trusting in the works of mankind will always result in disappointment.
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Originally posted by olejoedad: I suggest that if Paul states that court-ordered released emails show that Fauci knew about the origins, then he has the information to back up his claim that he has committed to print.
So don't trust "mankind", but trust Rand Paul?
Do you consider him to be a god? Or do you just trust him because he tells you what you want to hear?
I trust Senator Paul because he has a long record of being straightforward with the public. He is a medical doctor that donates a lot of his personal time at clinics in underserved regions throughout the wolrd. He is proven to be a man that cares about his reputation, rather than his political party, rare enough these days.
I trust Senator Paul because he has a long record of being straightforward with the public..
I actually agree with some of Pauls positions on foreign spending and limiting government. But I can not trust anyone who tries to legitimize Alex Jones and keeps repeating the lie that the 2020 election was stolen.
Hunter's laptop was just a dirty rotten lie and a Communist plot...until it was the truth.
It is true, but the timing of its appearance was suspicious.
The right clearly wanted to bring it up right before the election Just like Comey did with the Hillary investigation. And just like the Hillary investigation it turned out to be a lot of nothing. It makes Hunter look bad, but nothing on it that shows Joe did anything wrong.
I'm so glad this is a discussion about the response to COVID, and the discovery ( of court ordered released emails the were previously hidden) of shenanigans by bureaucrats at the highest level on the world stage.
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I'm so glad this is a discussion about the response to COVID, and the discovery ( of court ordered released emails the were previously hidden) of shenanigans by bureaucrats at the highest level on the world stage.
when all the bodys are counted
the vax/jab and the doc the con's love to hate was the one thing the rump did correctly at first
then had to screw it all up with horse meds and uv lites and worse allow the anti vax crazys to run free very few real vax ills vs tons of BS fears vs dead and long cases of cv-19
anti-vax kills small pox Measles mumps tetanus sure some few react far more never get ill
I'm so glad this is a discussion about the response to COVID, and the discovery ( of court ordered released emails the were previously hidden) of shenanigans by bureaucrats at the highest level on the world stage.
Glad that any deceit is being exposed. But I don't think the response to covid would have been any different if it was assumed to have leaked from a lab. The pandemic would have still required the same response.
Glad that any deceit is being exposed. But I don't think the response to covid would have been any different if it was assumed to have leaked from a lab.
The pandemic would have still required the same response.
Not if the deceit about the true, (low), lethality of the disease and the ineffectiveness of prophylactic measures against it, (masks, social distancing, lock downs and vaccines), had also been exposed contemporaneously.
Originally posted by randye: Not if the deceit about the true, (low), lethality of the disease and the ineffectiveness of prophylactic measures against it, (masks, social distancing, lock downs and vaccines), had also been exposed contemporaneously.
so our head con admits the rump leadership failed by overreaching
fails to understand things that were not known at the time
masks worked to limit the spread as did distance
vaccine worked to limit the bug and caused less dead people
reminder all that was on the rump watch his screw up his good people failed
Originally posted by randye: Not if the deceit about the true, (low), lethality of the disease and the ineffectiveness of prophylactic measures against it, (masks, social distancing, lock downs and vaccines), had also been exposed contemporaneously.
As best I can tell they were always honest about how lethal it was (except Donald Trump)
Also vaccines were very effective. The other actions were somewhat effective. No one ever claimed anything was 100% effective.
What do you think the response should have been. What steps should have been taken to address the covid pandemic?
So basically he thinks he should be allowed to say anything he wants, but if any one dares to disagree with him and discredit his opinion then that person is "against free speech"? If he is critical of the governments claims about the pandemic then does that mean that he is also against free speech?
He claims that he was "excommunicated" from the scientific community, but that is complete BS. He is still a practicing scientist.
The Great Barrington Declaration was not suppressed. We all saw it or heard about it. The majority of the scientific community rejected its claims about how "herd immunity" would fix everything while somehow keeping the high risk people isolated. It was funded by the American Institute for Economic Research so it is not surprising that it valued corporate profits over human lives.
THE EXCESS DEATHS IN THE RED NUT AREAS WAS HUGE it was a volunteer opt out group by the Q faction of the cult they self picked by cult belief into the dead pile
btw I had the bug 2 times before the shot was much worse after was not even close more of a non event I think the shot worked
and the whole anti-vax not just cv-19 shot tall tales is a disaster world wide and many in the cult will die as a result of cult belief
follow the money back to the koch bro's The declaration was sponsored by the American Institute for Economic Research (AIER), a libertarian free market think tank based in Great Barrington, Massachusetts, which has a history of promoting climate change denial, and the benefits of sweatshops. Byline Times journalist Nafeez Ahmed has described the AIER as an "institution embedded in a Koch-funded network that denies climate science while investing in polluting fossil fuel industries".
history of promoting climate change denial and medical BS also so bro's K funding the lying
Originally posted by ray b: btw I had the bug 2 times before the shot was much worse after was not even close more of a non event I think the shot worked
and the whole anti-vax not just cv-19 shot tall tales is a disaster world wide and many in the cult will die as a result of cult belief
The Great Barrington Declaration was released BEFORE there was a vaccine. I promoted "herd immunity" while somehow isolating a large population that was higher risk. Never explained where all these high risk people were going to be placed to isolate them.
then when the Government tried to explain to people why it was a bad idea everyone behind it started acting like they had been silenced and thrown in prison for their ideas. But nothing like that ever happened. Their "declaration" was out there for anyone to see. It just was not accepted.
It is actually kind of comical to hear him claim that social distancing and business closures were a complete failure because people still got Covid, but his plan would have involved hundreds of thousands of MORE people getting Covid to create "herd immunity".
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''American Institute for Economic Research (AIER), a libertarian free market think tank based in Great Barrington, Massachusetts , which has a history of promoting climate change denial, and the benefits of sweatshops.''
I must WONDER WHO benefits from sweatshops not the workers guess the bro's K do ?
''American Institute for Economic Research (AIER), a libertarian free market think tank based in Great Barrington, Massachusetts , which has a history of promoting climate change denial, and the benefits of sweatshops.''
I must WONDER WHO benefits from sweatshops not the workers guess the bro's K do ?
your links show the evil behind the curtians
Typical position of Libertarians. They generally value profit over human life. Screw the environment. Screw safety for employees. Screw food and drug inspectors. Screw regulations to control a pandemic. profit is all that matters.
btw I had the bug 2 times before the shot was much worse after was not even close more of a non event I think the shot worked
and the whole anti-vax not just cv-19 shot tall tales is a disaster world wide and many in the cult will die as a result of cult belief
I think this is my first post in politics/religion, probably will not post much/anything more. I was in grade 9 at the very beginning, got COVID very very early, it was bad, 2 weeks with a fever above 102°, peaking at 104°for several days, very long, drawn out, bad symptoms, etc. Following that I got COVID maybe 2 more times, each subsequent time was less bad/more contagious, until it was little more then a common cold.
My grandma had severe dementia, very healthy otherwise, and my grandpa couldn't take care of her by himself, needed some at home care, help with bathing, feeding, staying with her while my grandpa did shopping, etc, which would not be provided unless she was vaccinated. They had no choice, either she doesn't get vaccinated, and doesn't recieve the at home care she needed, or get vaccinated, so that's what they did. Several months later she died from blood clots in her lungs related to the vaccine.
I think this is my first post in politics/religion, probably will not post much/anything more. I was in grade 9 at the very beginning, got COVID very very early, it was bad, 2 weeks with a fever above 102°, peaking at 104°for several days, very long, drawn out, bad symptoms, etc. Following that I got COVID maybe 2 more times, each subsequent time was less bad/more contagious, until it was little more then a common cold.
My grandma had severe dementia, very healthy otherwise, and my grandpa couldn't take care of her by himself, needed some at home care, help with bathing, feeding, staying with her while my grandpa did shopping, etc, which would not be provided unless she was vaccinated. They had no choice, either she doesn't get vaccinated, and doesn't recieve the at home care she needed, or get vaccinated, so that's what they did. Several months later she died from blood clots in her lungs related to the vaccine.
SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS
got facts ? what vax JJ or other what dose 1 2 3 ? how long after what shot what was the exact cause of her death stroke ?
could just be NOT shot related cv-19 can cause clots as can lots of other illnesses
got facts ? what vax JJ or other what dose 1 2 3 ? how long after what shot what was the exact cause of her death stroke ?
could just be NOT shot related cv-19 can cause clots as can lots of other illnesses
Thank you, It was Pfizer or Moderna, one of the mRNA ones, only one dose, at the time she got the shot, she had a prognosis of 1 year to live due to cancer. Immediately after receiving the vaccine she started to have blood clots and bleeding in her lungs, which surprised her doctors as it wasn't related to any previous condition the doctors said when they gave the prognosis that the blood clots and bleeding could be fatal at any time. Those blood clots and bleeding continued, which impacted her breathing enough to have to be moved to a hospice, where she stabilized, then passed in the middle of the night, 6 months before expected. Those blood clots and bleeding were present the entire time immediately following the vaccine until her death. I do not know the exact cause of death, neither does my dad, but the blood clots and bleeding certainly contributed, if only by decreasing her quality of life, and sending her downhill faster, that's still enough to mention.
Originally posted by BingB: Which version of your little story is true?
She had cancer, which I was not aware of until I got further information from my dad regarding the questions ray b asked. I am sorry I said something that was false, but as someone still in high school at the time, the only thing noticeable to me was the dementia, otherwise she "seemed" fine.
