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I'm just curious... at what point do we want to bring up Biden's pending impeachment? by 82-T/A [At Work]
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I just don't understand the spell that this sleaze-bag charlatan has somehow put over so many people in the States. It's like some kind of mass delusion.


 
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I'm confident that there are enough clear-headed Americans to see through the deeply ingrained phoniness of Donald Trump. It's amazing though that so many have been absolutely bamboozled by this trickster.


Trump accomplished many things Americans. The list is long.

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Originally posted by fredtoast:
Dude, you just predicted the end of the world if Biden is elected.

You'll get support from lots of people for Drama Queen of the Year if you just keep that up.


You think that's more over the top than the BS that the liberals ( on this Forum and in DC ) promote?


What's good for the goose.....

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Originally posted by fredtoast:
I am not talking about the allegations. I am talking about the evidence to back up these allegations.

The impeachment hearing will not take place in your echo chamber where "allegations" equal "proof".

What is the strongest evidence that Biden did anything like this?


Hunters lap top says it all. No allegations were denied. That the lap top was Hunter's has proven to be true. What kind of savvy business experience does a crack addict, kicked out of the military, have to make millions, only with foreign governments ?
How do you explain how his grand kids got millions in their bank accounts ?
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Of that short list, #1 describes the orange-haired MAGA abomination to a "tee."

It's rather ludicrous of cliffw to put this on "Democrats."


That's a ludicrous allegation.
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Hunters lap top says it all. No allegations were denied. That the lap top was Hunter's has proven to be true.



I don't know what you are talking about. There is no evidence on the laptop of illegal or corrupt action by Joe Biden.


 
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What kind of savvy business experience does a crack addict, kicked out of the military, have to make millions, only with foreign governments ?


Hunter Biden has a law degree from Yale.

After college he went to work for MBNA and rose to the level of vice-president.

He was appointed to the Board of Directors of Amtrack by REPUBLICAN President George W. Bush.

He became involved in investment banking in 2006 when he and his uncle James Biden purchased international hedge fund Paradigm Global Advisors. the later founded Seneca Global Advisors and had been in the business 7 years before getting involved in Chine by founding BHR Partners.
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De mocrats Say It’ll Take A Lot More Than Eyewitness Testimony, Bank Records, Audio, Video, Complete Confessions For Them To Believe Biden Did Anything Wrong

WASHINGTON, D.C. — As evidence of bribery and corruption by the Biden family continues to mount, Democrat lawmakers in the nation's capital have expressed heavy skepticism, saying they will need a lot more than just eyewitnesses, financial records, audio and video recordings, and admissions of guilt from parties involved for them to believe any of it.

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Originally posted by otakudude:

De mocrats Say It’ll Take A Lot More Than Eyewitness Testimony, Bank Records, Audio, Video, Complete Confessions For Them To Believe Biden Did Anything Wrong

WASHINGTON, D.C. — As evidence of bribery and corruption by the Biden family continues to mount, Democrat lawmakers in the nation's capital have expressed heavy skepticism, saying they will need a lot more than just eyewitnesses, financial records, audio and video recordings, and admissions of guilt from parties involved for them to believe any of it.



There are no audio tapes proving corruption or illegal activity.

There are no video tapes proving corruption or illegal activity.

There are no bank records proving any corruption or illegal activity.

There are no admissions of guilt proving any corruption or illegal activity.

This is the point I have been making all along. The hearings will not take place in an echo chamber where "allegations" equal "evidence". This is exactly why I am happing for the official investigation. It will prove that there is no legitimate evidence.

If I am wrong please post a link to any EVIDENCE

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Trump accomplished many things Americans.


Ummm... okay.

 
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The list is long.


As long as his rap sheet?

The Case(s) Against Donald Trump It’s hard to keep track, so we made a guide.

 
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Donald Trump is under three separate indictments and is currently awaiting a fourth as the 2024 election draws near. In addition to the charges levied against him by special counsel Jack Smith and Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg, Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis is expected soon to reveal whether she will charge Trump over election interference in Georgia. And, if that weren’t enough, the former president is facing several civil suits including one led by New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, who is alleging that Trump committed business fraud. Here’s what we know so far...

Continued at link above.

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As long as his rap sheet?

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Originally posted by cliffw:
What kind of savvy business experience does a crack addict, kicked out of the military, have to make millions, only with foreign governments ?


 
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Hunter Biden has a law degree from Yale.


Joe Biden must be right. Hunter is the smartest person he knows. Do you know how hard it is to be accepted by Yale ?

I missed it by that much !

 
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After college he went to work for MBNA and rose to the level of vice-president.


A Canadian entity hoping to curry favor with the United States ?

 
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He was appointed to the Board of Directors of Amtrack by REPUBLICAN President George W. Bush.


Amtrack ? An entity which could never have existed without tax payer dollars ? How is that California Bullet Train going ?

 
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He became involved in investment banking in 2006 when he and his uncle James Biden purchased international hedge fund Paradigm Global Advisors. the later founded Seneca Global Advisors and had been in the business 7 years before getting involved in Chine by founding BHR Partners.


Ah yes, the silver spoon twins.

Google James Biden.

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A Canadian entity hoping to curry favor with the United States ?



Obviously not because Senator Biden never did anything to help them.

Based on your logic Hunter Biden, with a law degree from Yale was not qualified for any job any wher, correct?

Do you realize how stupid that sounds.

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Amtrack ? An entity which could never have existed without tax payer dollars ? How is that California Bullet Train going ?



The US military would not exist without taxpayer money. Does that mean that everyone in the military is an unqualified grifter?

Again, brilliant logic on your part.


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Ah yes, the silver spoon twins.


Because people on the right would NEVER cast their support to a guy born with a silver spoon in his mouth, right? That would be really stupid, wouldn't it?

This is the funniest one of all.

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Amtrack? An entity which could never have existed without tax payer dollars? How is that California Bullet Train going?

It's "Amtrak." That could save cliffw some time if he ever needs (or wants) to go online to purchase a ride.

California High-Speed Rail Authority
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https://hsr.ca.gov/about/pr...oject-update-report/

 
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California’s high-speed rail project plays an important role as part of the broader climate solution in our state. It will provide the backbone of our statewide rail service that will increase connectivity between communities, statewide, regional and urban areas. It’s a true game changer.
Toks Omishakin, Secretary of Transportation for California.


"Take it from Toks"

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Give me my way or I'll burn the house down!

The threats of a child, yes, but it seems to be all the GOP has left these days. From "We'll shut down the government and hurt everyone before we will hurt our donors!" to "Impeach the President!" even though they have nothing to warrant it. Another Benghazi...

Both inquiries are based far more on vibes and political machinations than they are on hard evidence.
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"Take it from Toks"


He looks ticked in that picture.

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Amtrack? An entity which could never have existed without tax payer dollars? ...

Amtrak would not exist without tax payer dollars, but as fredtoast has observed, neither would the U.S. armed forces.

Come to think of it, the U.S. is an entity which could never have existed without taxpayer dollars... at least, it could never have existed for any appreciable length of time.

Forum member cliffw's remark is a truism. (And that's not good.)
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The Federal Government started collecting income taxes in 1913.

The legislation was passed in 1908.
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"Before 1913, federal government revenues came mainly from taxes on goods—tariffs on imported products and excise taxes on items like whiskey."


Excise taxes are sales taxes that are exacted on the sale of specific products and services.

So there were "taxpayer dollars" from the very beginning of the United States, and long before the establishment of the Federal Income Tax in 1913.

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I thought you was an attorney. Does not an investigation come before charges ?




The House Oversight Committee has been investigating this issue since January.

Republicans have had the contents of Hunter Bidens laptop for 4 years.

And they still have no legitimate evidence that Joe Biden did anything corrupt or illegal.
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The U.S. congressman from CA-15 introduces the nation to the law firm of "Insurrection, LLP."
https://youtu.be/fIR55Ysl_t4?t=157

Eric Swalwell chalked up some serious "style points" from America's thinking demographic.

Play the "Fang Fang" card, if you like... that don't mean s**t compared to the saga of Defendant Trump and the political party that still licks his Dictator of the United States-wannabe boots.

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It's "Amtrak." That could save cliffw some time if he ever needs (or wants) to go online to purchase a ride.


When did taxpayer dollars start paying for a pipe dream that still has not come to fruition ?

 
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California High-Speed Rail Authority
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https://hsr.ca.gov/about/pr...oject-update-report/

[QUOTE]California’s high-speed rail project plays an important role as part of the broader climate solution in our state. It will provide the backbone of our statewide rail service that will increase connectivity between communities, statewide, regional and urban areas. It’s a true game changer.


 
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Toks Omishakin, Secretary of Transportation for California.


Broader climate solution ? Good luck with that. Y'all can spend all of everybody's taxes and you still will not be able to alter "mother nature" !

 
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... our statewide rail service that will increase connectivity between communities, statewide, regional and urban areas...



State wide rail service ? What other statewide rail services do you have which transports humans ?
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State wide rail service? What other statewide rail services do you have which transports humans?


 
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Amtrak trains and connecting buses reach more than 150 destinations in the Golden State, including top cities such as San Diego, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, San Francisco and Sacramento; national parks; wineries; deserts and beaches.
It's a testament to the excellence of Amtrak's Board of Directors over the years, like Hunter Biden.

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Is that why California residents are leaving in record numbers? Just asking for a friend.
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"Much-needed nurses are flocking to California—for some of the same reasons others are fleeing"
Don Lee for the Los Angeles Times; September 19, 2023.
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Between 2020 and 2022, about 30,000 more registered nurses moved into California than out to other states, according to estimates by Joanne Spetz, director of the Philip R. Lee Institute for Health Policy Studies at UC San Francisco, which surveys the state’s nursing workforce and tracks licensing data.
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Is that [Amtrak] why California residents are leaving in record numbers? Just asking for a friend.

I've never heard or seen of anyone that said they wanted to move out of California because of Amtrak.

I only started talking about Amtrak because cliffw misspelled it as "Amtrack," after fredtoast brought up that Hunter Biden had been on Amtrak's board of directors—but I'm not seeing any further relevance to this idea of an impeachment inquiry.

Maybe it's time for this discussion, such as it is, to return from this sidetrack (see what I just did?) and start moving forwards again on the main route.

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Glad you came to your senses. Get on with the impeachment.
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I think the impeachment inquiry would have to be put on hold, until after the government starts up again after the impending government shutdown.

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