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the WHOLE THING IS A FRAUD NY JUDGE by ray b
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WELL WHAT NOW

the court ruled the whole donald trump corpRAT is a fraud/scam/crime

not that there was a fraud by the corp/RATS some how some where some guy did something
maybe the don didnot know of or approve
BUT NO the court said the whole corpRAT was a fraud
but everything called trump is crooked top to bottom

SO CON'S YOUR HERO IS CAUGHT
MAYBE BROKE
MAYBE NO MORE HOTELS

YEEHAA LOL
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It doesn't matter. They don't care.




I have seen people follow a person like blind sheep before, but I have never seen that person BRAG that his followers were nothing but blind sheep.

He says it to their face, and they still don't care.
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Originally posted by Patrick Here:

Judge rules Donald Trump defrauded banks, insurers while building real estate empire

Is there nothing that Trump hasn't fudged?


 
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NEW YORK (AP) — A judge ruled Tuesday that Donald Trump committed fraud for years while building the real estate empire that catapulted him to fame and the White House.

Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling in a civil lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James, found that the former president and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing loans.


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Originally posted by fredtoast:

I have seen people follow a person like blind sheep before, but I have never seen that person BRAG that his followers were nothing but blind sheep.

He says it to their face, and they still don't care.


The EXACT same can be said Biden voters.

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So exactly WHO got defrauded?

How much money did "they" lose to this "fraud"?

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Originally posted by BHall71:

The EXACT same can be said Biden voters.


"The EXACT same" idiotic comment certainly wouldn't be said by any other politician anywhere at any time.


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Originally posted by randye:

So exactly WHO got defrauded?

How much money did "they" lose to this "fraud"?



He hurt my feelings. She should have won. I mean she did. Orange Man Bad.

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So exactly WHO got defrauded? How much money did "they" lose to this "fraud"?


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Originally posted by randye:

So exactly WHO got defrauded?

How much money did "they" lose to this "fraud"?



both you and the rump miss the point

the lie is the crime

no need for anything else

just the lie
only the lie

lying will not help
crying will not help

now how much did you get grifted by the rump
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So, exactly WHO got defrauded?

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Originally posted by randye:

So, exactly WHO got defrauded?


Conveniently ignoring the rest of that paragraph?

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the rump bankrupt a gamboling casino

and several other biz scams went bankrupt the fake school and an airline

contractors suppliers tradesmen and investors lost big time

BANKRUPT MORALLY in addition to other lies

who did not get screwed by the rump is a better question

but people did lose money in the rump scams

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Originally posted by randye:
So, exactly WHO got defrauded?




Banks set loan rate based on risk. If Trump had been honest about value of assets Banks would have charged higher interest rates and made more money.

That is just one example.

Love the way his sycophants support his lying on loan applications because his credibility is no issue to them. They don't care if he is a lying crook.

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Originally posted by BHall71:


The EXACT same can be said Biden voters.



No. Biden has never called his followers blind sheep to their faces.

Trump followers have no shame. They are sheep and they happily admit it.

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Originally posted by fredtoast:
No. Biden has never called his followers blind sheep to their faces.

Trump followers have no shame. They are sheep and they happily admit it.


Biden and DNC supporters are stupid sheep that have blindly followed wolves dressed in sheep's clothing.
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GO DIRECTLY TO THE JUDGE'S 35-PAGE RULING. DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200.
https://iapps.courts.state....9LOw3Q==&system=prod

"New York judge rules Trump committed fraud and lied about his net worth for years"
 
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The judge, Arthur Engoron, also denied Trump's bid to dismiss the New York attorney general's $250 million lawsuit against him and his company.

Adam Reiss, Chloe Atkins, Jonathan Dienst and Dareh Gregorian for NBC News; September 26, 2023.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...net-years-rcna117504

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''Trump values his properties at ridiculously low prices when reporting to the government, then turns around and values them at outrageously high values when negotiating for loans.

This is fraud, and calling him on it doesn’t mean the judge believes either the high number or the low number, since BOTH are fake.

Highlighting the variance is documenting the fraud.

You’re welcome, my slow-witted friend ''

mar a log-go-GO 16 million for real estate tax rate
and 1 billion for loan value as collateral

BOTH FRAUDS
HE CHEATS THE STATE
AND THE BANKS
ON JUST ONE OF FAR TOO MANY EXAMPLES
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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Biden and DNC supporters are stupid sheep that have blindly followed wolves dressed in sheep's clothing.

No we have not. Just because you say something does not make it true.

But with Trump followers we have proof. And it came right out of Trumps own mouth. He bragged about what blind sheep you all were.

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Originally posted by fredtoast:

No we have not. Just because you say something does not make it true.

But with Trump followers we have proof. And it came right out of Trumps own mouth. He bragged about what blind sheep you all were.


You crack me up!🤣

This Administration has screwed up virtually everything it has touched, even with the MSM covering for them.
Our 'President' is barely coherent, is led around by his handlers, the DNC leadership in the Senate is pathetic and inflation is putting a huge penalty financially on the very people the DNC has mislead into thinking that they are the priority, yet you admit that you still support the program.

Ya just can't make this foolhardiness up.

🙄

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


You crack me up!🤣

This Administration has screwed up virtually everything it has touched, even with the MSM covering for them.
Our 'President' is barely coherent, is led around by his handlers, the DNC leadership in the Senate is pathetic and inflation is putting a huge penalty financially on the very people the DNC has mislead into thinking that they are the priority, yet you admit that you still support the program.

Ya just can't make this foolhardiness up.

🙄



doom and gloom
BUT FULL EMPLOYMENT TOO ?
THAT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE EVER

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Just because the MSM says we have 'full employment' doesn't make it the truth.

Look around you.....
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"When Goldstein talks, people listen"
 
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Buried in the gross domestic product report released Thursday were two new measures of inflation—and they both seem to be showing that the disinflation trend is continuing.

The Commerce Department for the first time reported price indexes for PCE excluding food, energy, and housing, and PCE services excluding energy and housing. The government said it was breaking out the information based on requests from data users. Federal Reserve officials including Chair Jerome Powell say they are closely looking at inflation trends in non-housing services.

At an annual rate, the PCE price index excluding food, energy and housing slowed to a 3% rate in the second quarter from 4.1% in the first quarter, and PCE services excluding energy and housing slowed to a 3.5% rate from 5.1%. Fed officials often say that core measures of inflation tend to be better predictors of future inflation than the so-called headline measures.

Powell, at his last press conference, talked about looking at core inflation in three buckets.

"If you look at June, July, and August, you're looking at, you know, really significant declines in core inflation, largely in the goods sector, also to some extent in housing services, and just a little in non-housing services," he said. "Those are the three buckets."

The broader core PCE price index was 3.7% for the second quarter, unrevised from previous estimates.


That's the entire report.

"Two new inflation reports were just released. The Fed is watching."
Steve Goldstein for MarketWatch; September 28, 2023.
https://www.morningstar.com...-the-fed-is-watching

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


You crack me up!🤣

This Administration has screwed up virtually everything it has touched, even with the MSM covering for them.
Our 'President' is barely coherent, is led around by his handlers, the DNC leadership in the Senate is pathetic and inflation is putting a huge penalty financially on the very people the DNC has mislead into thinking that they are the priority, yet you admit that you still support the program.

Ya just can't make this foolhardiness up.

🙄



The Biden administration has done an admerable job dealing with worldwide inflation problems an creating jobs.

Oil companies in particular are doing much better under Biden than Trump.

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The Biden administration has done an admerable job dealing with worldwide inflation problems an creating jobs.

Oil companies in particular are doing much better under Biden than Trump.




https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BaA8gPY8iUg
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Now we know what he looks like.
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a child cursing is all our RWNJ has
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Woman whose prison sentence was commuted by Trump arrested for fraud again

Is there nothing that Trump touches that isn't rotten?

 
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SAN DIEGO (KGTV) — A San Diego business owner who was convicted of fraud and had her prison sentence commuted by former President Donald Trump has been arrested again, indicted for a scheme nearly identical to the one that sent her to prison in the first place.

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Exactly the type of response I would expect from you.

Thanks for proving my point.

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TODAY

THE TRIAL BEGINS

OVER UNDER ON 250,000,000 FINE ?

THE FRAUD IS ALREADY DECIDED BY THE JUDGE'S RULING
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Are you rubbing your hands together in glee, or just desperately clutching your pearls?
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None of this is anything new with Trump. While he was running in 2016 he had to pay out because Trump University was a fraud, and while he was serving as President his charity was shut down because it was a fraud and again he was forced to pat damages.

His followers are actually proud if him being a proven con man. It cracks me up when they start clutching their pearls and whimpering about Biden being corrupt.

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TODAY

THE TRIAL BEGINS

OVER UNDER ON 250,000,000 FINE ?

THE FRAUD IS ALREADY DECIDED BY THE JUDGE'S RULING

Yeah, $250 million sounds about right.

Anything less would be an insult.

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the rump bankrupt a gamboling casino
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Big deal. The Feds bankrupted a whorehouse in Arizona.

That takes some G-D talent!
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YouTube video segment, should start at 3 minutes and 11 seconds after the beginning of the segment.
https://youtu.be/2YN76jjKUvc?t=191

GAAP is the acronym for Generally Accepted Accounting Principles.

When deposed, Donald Trump named Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg as the person that Trump relied upon for the Trump Organization's financial accounting processes and statements.

See what happens when Allen Weisselberg was deposed and asked about his knowledge of GAAP.

Warning: People who are averse to the sight or sound of MSNBC late primetime anchor Lawrence O'Donnell should not view this YouTube video content.

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I would take this more seriously if it wasn't for the fact that Letitia James campaigned on taking DJT down, not on actual New Yorkers safety, violent crime reduction. If convicted I suspect he gets the full hammer, and his poll numbers go up, and not just because of the MAGA crowd.
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I would take this more seriously if it wasn't for the fact that Letitia James campaigned on taking DJT down, not on actual New Yorkers safety, violent crime reduction. If convicted I suspect he gets the full hammer, and his poll numbers go up, and not just because of the MAGA crowd.


PATTERN RECOGNITION ?

ONCE HE PILED UP 90+ INDICTMENTS

NOT ALL FROM ONE CASE OR ONE STATE
even very different crimes money rape votes election fixing riot rebellion

THE MEAN GIRL BS IS JUNK BLACK OR NOT
just is not fact reason or cause
just WHATABOUTING

any Attorney General should know who looks like a crook scam rump SURE DOES
HE IS SO OVER QUALIFIED FOR JAIL
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Originally posted by bonaduce:
I would take this more seriously if it wasn't for the fact that Letitia James campaigned on taking DJT down, not on actual New Yorkers safety, violent crime reduction. If convicted I suspect he gets the full hammer, and his poll numbers go up, and not just because of the MAGA crowd.



I think you overestimate the tendency of the average American to embrace a convicted fraud. Only a small faction follow him no matter who he shoots in the middle of the street.

Trump is a threat to democracy. There was no voter fraud in the 2020 election, but Trump illegally accessed voter records and attempted to cast fraudulent votes from fraudulent electors. He tried to pressure the Vice President into violating his Constitutional duty.

So a lot of people want him to go down.
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WILL THE RUMP BE FOUND IN conTEMPT OF THE COURT ?

THIS ny TRIAL ONLY?

IN SOME BUT NOT ALL TRIALS ?

THE VERY MOST UNLIKELY NONE AT ALL ?

MOST LIKELY IN EACH AND EVERY TRIAL IN THE FUTURE ?
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new trump crime charge

''It's a good bet that Trump telling General Milley to give him an Iran attack plan, was a request from Putin that went to Iran. Consider how emboldened Iran must be to do a Hamas attack on Israel, knowing there would be a response. Iran now has a good idea how the US would respond, targets, what we will or will not do. They've had a couple of years to develop countermeasures to US military action. Trump should be in custody for this. He emboldened Iran to have Hamas attack Israel.''

so if proven true ?

give him to the jews

jail him here

or like 5 ave shooting not a problem just the rump being a rump
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Originally posted by fredtoast:

I have seen people follow a person like blind sheep before, but I have never seen that person BRAG that his followers were nothing but blind sheep.

He says it to their face, and they still don't care.


Maybe you are too young to remember Edwin Edwards (Louisiana)

 
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“I could not lose unless I was caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.” (Night before 1983 election)


He, more than once, admitted to taking bribes while in office and flat stated his constituency didn't care.
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