point being there ain't jack in the whole place to blow up
aka not worth the trouble or the cost of a bomb old long civil war already blew most of it up saudi vs iran proxy war did that bounce the rubble if you must they maybe notice I doubt it
point being there ain't jack in the whole place to blow up
aka not worth the trouble or the cost of a bomb old long civil war already blew most of it up saudi vs iran proxy war did that bounce the rubble if you must they maybe notice I doubt it
or sending in troops a very bad BuSh2 bad idea
I and several others would be interested to know just how you became an "expert" on military affairs................. and just how you developed your military expert opinions. Please enlighten us on your military expertise, not your political obsessions.
Originally posted by blackrams: I and several others would be interested to know just how you became an "expert" on military affairs................. and just how you developed your military expert opinions. Please enlighten us on your military expertise, not your political obsessions.
This is a rhetorical question, and it's just a roundabout way of saying "Yo', Ray, you don't know 'jack' about matters military."
But there are others among us, including myself, who are not shy about talking military, and the same could be said about any of us others who, like Ray, are not "the very model of a modern major general."
Who else among us, aside from Ray and myself, could be "spanked" in this same way, for talking about military affairs without having any clearly demonstrable expertise or credentials?
I happen to think what Ray is saying about this is not unreasonable.
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This is a rhetorical question, and it's just a roundabout way of saying "Yo', Ray, you don't know 'jack' about matters military."
But there are others among us, including myself, who are not shy about talking military, and the same could be said about any of us others who, like Ray, are not "the very model of a modern major general."
Who else among us, aside from Ray and myself, could be "spanked" in this same way, for talking about military affairs without having any clearly demonstrable expertise or credentials?
I happen to think what Ray is saying about this is not unreasonable.
Your interpretation, I didn't question your opinion. There's a reason I asked him. He knows the answer..
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The Houthis attacked with drones. They attacked innocent noncombatant vessels and the US Navy.
If the US was not lead by people like you, we would have responded.
I think it's worth remembering that when "Orange Jesus" was the President and Commander in Chief, Iran targeted U.S. military installations in Iraq with a barrage of ground launched medium range missiles armed with conventional explosive warheads. This attack inflicted serious concussion type injuries on a number (not just 1 or 2) of U.S. servicemen, who were sheltering in bunkers because the attack was anticipated, but were not fully protected from the effects of this missile attack by Iran.
There was no direct or public U.S. retaliation against Iran for that missile barrage.
That was in the days after Trump ordered the U.S. military operation that killed Qassem Soleimani, the leader of Iran's Revolutionary Guard force, who was on the ground and inside Iraq.
That was in the days after Trump ordered the U.S. military operation that killed Qassem Soleimani, the leader of Iran's Revolutionary Guard force, who was on the ground and inside Iraq.
And that response had what effect on Iran's actions?
It seems to me that the people here who are so dismissive of Joe Biden and the Biden administration (and before that, Obama) are not very consistent when they try to draw a contrast (as some have) that favors what Trump and the Trump administration were like.
It seems to me that some people are saying (in so many words) that Biden is a p*ssy because he isn't ordering the U.S. military to strike back harder or more reactively against the provocations from the Houthis and their drones and missiles, or against the Iranian-allied militias that have fired rockets at the U.S. forces that remain in Iraq or in Syria.
How does that square with this sequence?
Trump orders killing of Qassem Soleimani, the leader of Iran's Revolutionary Guard.
Iran retaliates with missile barrage that injures U.S. serviceman at U.S. bases in Iraq.
Trump just "takes it." It took some probing from journalists to publicize the injuries to the U.S. servicemen.
Wasn't Trump kind of a p*ssy about this, and why don't the RWNJs call him out for it?
It's like that scene (I kind of remember it) where Bogart says to a man who has just been slapped by a woman "You'll learn to take it." Or something like that. Iran slapped us for getting "fresh" by killing Qassem Soleimani, and we just "took it"... when Trump was the President and Commander in Chief.
Why didn't Trump order an immediate and public U.S. military retaliation against Iran, to retaliate against Iran's retaliation against us for the killing of Qassem Soleimani?
Is it because Trump was some kind of p*ssy?
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I don't think anyone with any common sense would equate a mere man, especially one with flaws to the Son of God.
Blasphemy is not a good thing.
In a recent episode of "The Last Word," MSNBC anchor Lawrence O'Donnell took Republicans to task for referring to Trump as "Orange Jesus."
O'Donnell said this was blasphemous, and contradicted the general affinity that connects these particular Republicans in Congress with organized Christianity.
I actually thought this was somewhat disingenuous on the part of Lawrence O'Donnell.
This comes from Liz Cheney's newly published book. She was talking about what Republicans in Congress were saying in the days before and after "January 6."
Some Republicans were using "Orange Jesus" as a way of referring to Trump, the "orange" being a reference to his famously orange-color hair. But they were being sarcastic, because they were grumbling about the situation that they were in, where they felt compelled, because of Trump's popularity with the Republican "base," to go public about getting onboard with Trump's efforts to dispute his failed attempt to win reelection—in private, they knew that Trump had lost his reelection bid "fair and square."
So what they were really saying was "The things I have to do for the 'Orange Jesus' to avoid provoking the ire of the Republican voters among my constituents." An expression of exasperation, and a sarcastic and intentionally blasphemous (mildly blasphemous) way of referring to President Trump.
I think O'Donnell was not being "straight" about this when he described these Republicans as having been blasphemous with the "Orange Jesus" talk, and so, hypocrites, because they were all professed Christians.
How CNN has reported on Liz Cheney's newly published book "Oath and Honor"
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On Jan. 6, before the attack on the Capitol, Cheney describes a scene in the GOP cloakroom, where members were encouraged to sign their names on electoral vote objection sheets, lined up on a table, one for each of the states Republicans were contesting. Cheney writes most members knew “it was a farce” and “another public display of fealty to Donald Trump.”
“Among them was Republican Congressman Mark Green of Tennessee,” Cheney writes. “As he moved down the line, signing his name to the pieces of paper, Green said sheepishly to no one in particular, ‘The things we do for the Orange Jesus.’”
Just read an interesting article accusing Israel of flooding the HAMAS tunnels with seawater. The Egyptians did the same thing several years ago but, no one complained back then, they supposedly used wastewater from sewers.
As expected, many are calling this inhumane. I guess those folks don't recall Oct. 7th.
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Just read an interesting article accusing Israel of flooding the HAMAS tunnels with seawater. The Egyptians did the same thing several years ago but, no one complained back then, they supposedly used wastewater from sewers.
As expected, many are calling this inhumane. I guess those folks don't recall Oct. 7th.
Biden administration staffers call for ceasefire at vigil outside White House. What impact do they think this will have on the IDF? https://edition.cnn.com/202...ite-house/index.html They forgot most of there Antifa gear.
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BERLIN—German authorities on Thursday detained four alleged members of Hamas suspected of planning to attack Jewish institutions in the region—the first suggestion that the Gaza conflict might be spilling over beyond the Middle East.
Germany’s federal prosecutor said one of the men, acting under order from Hamas leaders in Lebanon, had in the spring begun searching for a cache of weapons the organization had clandestinely assembled in the past.
The weapons were to be brought to Berlin until they could be used in a possible attack against Jewish institutions in Europe, the prosecutor said.
The arrests mark the first time since the start of the Gaza war that authorities claim to have uncovered a Hamas plot to target Europe. While security officials say the group has long been active in Europe, they believe it has so far seen the region mainly as a logistical base and source of financing rather than a possible terror target.
Security officials across the continent have been on high alert since Hamas launched its Oct. 7 attacks on southern Israel. The attackers killed some 1,200 people and took over 200 hostages back to Gaza, according to Israeli officials.
In October, a man identified as Lebanese-born Abdelhamid Al A. and two accomplices, Egyptian national Mohamed B. and Dutch national Nazih R., began traveling from Berlin across the region to gather the weapons, assisted by a third man identified as Lebanese-born Ibrahim El-R., according to the German prosecutor.
The four were longstanding Hamas members who had already participated in foreign operations for the group and had ties to the leaders of its military wing, the Izz ad-Dine al-Qassam Brigades, according to the prosecutor.
Abdelhamid Al A. and Mohamed B. were detained in Berlin at the request of the prosecutor while Dutch police arrested Nazih R. in Rotterdam under a European arrest warrant. Ibrahim El-R., had been placed under provisional arrest pending the possible issuance of an arrest warrant by a federal judge on Friday.
Germany banned Hamas and associated organizations after the Oct. 7 attack, making raising funds and advocating for the groups a criminal offense. Authorities in the country have since conducted a number of raids on suspected members.
While Hamas hasn’t been linked to an attack in Europe in recent months, three radicals who had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State militia have carried out isolated attacks in the region since Oct. 7.
Meanwhile, attacks on Jewish residents and institutions have rocketed across Europe. Germany’s main antisemitism watchdog said late last month its local reporting centers had recorded 994 verified antisemitic incidents between Oct. 7 and Nov. 9, a more than fourfold increase over the average for 2022.
The Oct. 7 attack and Israel’s subsequent military incursion in Gaza have sparked large protests across European cities, some by supporters of Israel and a larger number by pro-Palestinian activists denouncing the civilian casualties in the enclave.
Since Israel began its campaign, more than 18,400 Palestinians have died in Gaza, two-thirds of them women and children, according to Palestinian health authorities. The figures don’t distinguish between militants and civilians.
Anyone want to tell me again how secure our southern border is?
Originally posted by ray b:so you claim WITH OUT ANY EVIDENCE your god did it
why did he not ATTACK HITLER IN 1933
WAS HE ASLEEP 1933 TO 1945 ?
OR RANDOM BS IS THE ONLY VALID EXPLANATION
To be clear... Willie made absolutely no such claim.
But in all honesty, this is exactly what my thought was when I saw that this politician dropped dead.
It should be noted that this is actually the THIRD TIME this has happened in recent history. There was a famous Iranian imam who died while calling for the death of Jews in front of a massive audience. And there was another politician about 5 years ago who also fell dead immediately upon calling for death to Israel in front of politicians within their country. It's taking me too long to look it up since everything is talking about the Turkish PM... so I gave up.
After his speech and Congress concluded, he was walking back to the house building and suffered a heart attack after the fact. He unfortunately died. It can show that being impassioned while giving a political speech can result in a heart attack, but I'd say the difference is this person did not die at the podium, but died much later in the House building after the fact.
The answer to this is related to the question: Why does God allow suffering?
God gives us free will, that is to say Freedom, including the freedom to be wrong. That is one gift that separates human society from the very ordered society of ants and bees..
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Originally posted by ray b:
OUR SOUTHERN BORDER IS NOT NEAR THE MID-EAST NOR IS GERMANY NEAR THE BORDER
As with so many other important issues, you know nothing about our southern border. You actually think living in Florida is living in a border state. You are living in a cartoon, Peter Pan.
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IF WE ALLOW NO GOD BOTHER FOOLS IN and only allow in native americans no problems
You are an ignorant bigot. You are the epitome of what some think of as the stereotypical Floridian. I grew up in Florida and you are an embarrassment.
To bring this back to the topic, the war in the middle east was caused by a gang of ignorant bigots who call themselves Hamas. They claim the land based on ethnicity and reject others based on religion. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
