However, there is nothing in your formatting to indicate that your text is a quote. Simply including a link in your post does not indicate that any of the following text is from that link. In addition, you plagiarize so often that it is an understandable error.
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YOU SELDOM LINK WHEN YOU DO IT IS TO NUT SITES
I link when it is appropriate, but I prefer to post my own thoughts. Why should I post something that anyone can read for himself elsewhere?
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i AM POSTING FACTS NOT OPINIONS
The article in question, the one which included the paragraph that you copied, is opinion.
Asked by reporters in Berlin if Germany would execute an ICC warrant against Netanyahu and Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, Steffen Hebestreit, a spokesman for German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, said, “Of course. Yes, we abide by the law,” Politico reported.
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sure the arabs did nasty stuff
jews lied about most of it some rapes but fewer then claimed one baby killed by a shot thru a door no baby kids or others burned to death except THE ONES KILLED BY A ZIONIST TANK ATTACK THAT BURNED DOWN A HOUSE THEY TRYED TO RECAPTURE
the ultra rightwing ortho's charged with body recovery are know lying child abusers and told many lies the official body counts DISPUTE EVEN BEBE LIES TO BIDEN BUT NO BODYS BACK THE BS
IE IF THEY CLAIM KIDS BABYS BURNED TO DEATH WHERE ARE THE BODYS
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sure the arabs did nasty stuff
jews lied about most of it some rapes but fewer then claimed one baby killed by a shot thru a door no baby kids or others burned to death except THE ONES KILLED BY A ZIONIST TANK ATTACK THAT BURNED DOWN A HOUSE THEY TRYED TO RECAPTURE
the ultra rightwing ortho's charged with body recovery are know lying child abusers and told many lies the official body counts DISPUTE EVEN BEBE LIES TO BIDEN BUT NO BODYS BACK THE BS
IE IF THEY CLAIM KIDS BABYS BURNED TO DEATH WHERE ARE THE BODYS
Isn't free speech wonderful?
Every day rayb tells us more about who and what he really is is.
Read the comments in the video rayb posted. They all sound just like sourmash. I can hear their voices echoing in the background. I want to puke.
The Israel Defense Forces announced that they carried out a strike in Beirut on Tuesday targeting the commander accused of orchestrating the recent attack on a children's soccer field.
In a post on X, the IDF said that its forces "carried out a targeted strike in Beirut, on the commander responsible for the murder of the children in Majdal Shams and the killing of numerous additional Israeli civilians."
"At the moment, there are no changes in the Home Front Command defensive guidelines. If any changes will be made, an update will be released. Details to follow," the post said.
"Hezbollah crossed the red line," Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant wrote on X.
"He is hinting that he may try to increase military assistance to help the Palestinians in their fight, both Hamas and those fighting in the West Bank," Dr. Liel told Gadi Ness.
Netanyahu reportedly calls on cabinet members to refrain from comment, but Government Press Office briefly posts image of Haniyeh with the word ‘Eliminated’ across his forehead
What is that solution? It's not a final one, is it?
Here are my thoughts, take them or leave them... I think at this point, "Palestine" cannot be trusted to have or elect a functioning government. Their entire society has been raised to believe that the Jews are the root of all evil (no Ray, this isn't concurrence). In this lifetime, there will never be an elected government by the Palestinians that won't end up being totally radical. So I think a government should be given to them, or more directly... imposed on them. Most people will say, "this is unfair." Yes... it is. It always sucks being on the losing end of a war, but Israel has won this war (or will in very short time).
I don't think you can have Israel run the country, but they can certainly be a part of it. Israel already has peace accords with UAE, Sudan, Bahrain, and a couple of others (I think Egypt is one of them). Just like the allied nations did after WW2 (though a little different), the collective Arab countries should help manage Palestine for the next generation. It should be a commission of the 5 countries (includes Israel). Israel can pick a delegate that is favorable to Israel, but is Muslim (they do exist), and the other Abraham Accord nations can support rebuilding Palestine into an actually thriving economy... and not one of devastation and continued impoverishment. As radical and uneducated as the vast majority of Palestinian people are, the one thing that always changes a society is economic prosperity and a sense of accomplishment. The area of Palestine has hundreds of 3000+ year old ruins and UNESCO sites... they can build an early economy on tourism, as there are many early Christian sites there that would draw enormous crowds.
Anyway, my thought is over time, the radicalization of that citizenry will eventually fade as they begin to realize they have actual opportunity to be successful. They don't have a "tribe" mentality that most of the rest of the Arab 3rd World has, so they can over time learn to appreciate democracy and coexistence.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Here are my thoughts, take them or leave them... I think at this point, "Palestine" cannot be trusted to have or elect a functioning government. Their entire society has been raised to believe that the Jews are the root of all evil (no Ray, this isn't concurrence). In this lifetime, there will never be an elected government by the Palestinians that won't end up being totally radical. So I think a government should be given to them, or more directly... imposed on them. Most people will say, "this is unfair." Yes... it is. It always sucks being on the losing end of a war, but Israel has won this war (or will in very short time).
I don't think you can have Israel run the country, but they can certainly be a part of it. Israel already has peace accords with UAE, Sudan, Bahrain, and a couple of others (I think Egypt is one of them). Just like the allied nations did after WW2 (though a little different), the collective Arab countries should help manage Palestine for the next generation. It should be a commission of the 5 countries (includes Israel). Israel can pick a delegate that is favorable to Israel, but is Muslim (they do exist), and the other Abraham Accord nations can support rebuilding Palestine into an actually thriving economy... and not one of devastation and continued impoverishment. As radical and uneducated as the vast majority of Palestinian people are, the one thing that always changes a society is economic prosperity and a sense of accomplishment. The area of Palestine has hundreds of 3000+ year old ruins and UNESCO sites... they can build an early economy on tourism, as there are many early Christian sites there that would draw enormous crowds.
Anyway, my thought is over time, the radicalization of that citizenry will eventually fade as they begin to realize they have actual opportunity to be successful. They don't have a "tribe" mentality that most of the rest of the Arab 3rd World has, so they can over time learn to appreciate democracy and coexistence.
I like where you are going with this. I think to a large extent the Israelis are equally as incapable of letting go of their hatred, and giving them any administrative control over the Palestinians is destined for abuse, but I also don't know if you could keep them out. I like balancing them with Arab states that are more vested in the success of Palestinians.
I like where you are going with this. I think to a large extent the Israelis are equally as incapable of letting go of their hatred, and giving them any administrative control over the Palestinians is destined for abuse, but I also don't know if you could keep them out. I like balancing them with Arab states that are more vested in the success of Palestinians.
Would you establish a Palestinian state for this?
My personal opinion... I think a two-state solution benefits both of them... but it's not up to me to decide. If we look at history, the people we refer to as "Palestinians" have absolutely no claim to the land they're on whatsoever. They were not there before the Jews. The Jews have been there for over 3,500 years (or more... I can't remember). The only people who can lay claim is honestly the native pagans who lived there before the Jews, whom... over the generations all converted to Jeudaism or Christianity. Islam didn't even exist until after 1,000 A.D., and when you add up the years of occupation of the various religious groups, it's overwhelming:
#1 Jews #2 Christians #3 Pagans #4 Muslims
So, all that in mind... I personally feel that whatever ends up, ends up. The Jews (in my mind) have a right to take the entire thing. But I think an honest fair two-state solution is probably the most ideal solution. It doesn't make sense for Palestine to be split up into two pieces though, Gaza Strip, and the West Bank. Much if it were slums to begin with, became even worse slums under Hamas rule, and a lot of which is damaged and destroyed already. I'd say carve out Jerusalem down to Hebron along the major interstate, and then take Gaza, and give them the rest of what is their existing territory. If Israel was to take the entire territory, so to speak, you'd have these people voting within the Israeli society, which would of course have an adverse effect on the Israeli government. The Palestinians cannot govern themselves... they've had their chance. Key bit of information here is that, when you asked the typical German (at the height of WW2) if they wanted all Jews dead... 60% of them said yes. When they polled (recently, and before the recent attack) the Palestinians, they said more than 90%.
Finally, my opinion is that half the world is Muslim. There are plenty of Muslim countries. Judaism is the 2nd oldest religion behind Hinduism. They have a right to have a "Jewish state" without having to share large sections of it with people who want them dead. If our concern is truly for "minorities" ... then you won't find a group that's more minority than the Jews. They make up less than 1/10th of 1% of the world's population.
My personal opinion... I think a two-state solution benefits both of them... but it's not up to me to decide. If we look at history, the people we refer to as "Palestinians" have absolutely no claim to the land they're on whatsoever. They were not there before the Jews. The Jews have been there for over 3,500 years (or more... I can't remember). The only people who can lay claim is honestly the native pagans who lived there before the Jews, whom... over the generations all converted to Jeudaism or Christianity. Islam didn't even exist until after 1,000 A.D., and when you add up the years of occupation of the various religious groups, it's overwhelming:
#1 Jews #2 Christians #3 Pagans #4 Muslims
This depends very much on what historical account you give credence to. The Bible is pretty clear that Solomon ruled the area, but there's no archeological evidence of that, of the invasion...any of it. Really what the physical record indicates is that the Jews were themselves Canaanites, sharing a common ancestry with the Palestinians. The large difference is that the Palestinians were Arabicized at some more contemporary point, while the Jews were not. From that standpoint, this is more like breaking up the estate in a contentious divorce; there is no single 'rightful' owner, and some compromise must be reached.
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So, all that in mind... I personally feel that whatever ends up, ends up. The Jews (in my mind) have a right to take the entire thing. But I think an honest fair two-state solution is probably the most ideal solution. It doesn't make sense for Palestine to be split up into two pieces though, Gaza Strip, and the West Bank. Much if it were slums to begin with, became even worse slums under Hamas rule, and a lot of which is damaged and destroyed already. I'd say carve out Jerusalem down to Hebron along the major interstate, and then take Gaza, and give them the rest of what is their existing territory. If Israel was to take the entire territory, so to speak, you'd have these people voting within the Israeli society, which would of course have an adverse effect on the Israeli government. The Palestinians cannot govern themselves... they've had their chance. Key bit of information here is that, when you asked the typical German (at the height of WW2) if they wanted all Jews dead... 60% of them said yes. When they polled (recently, and before the recent attack) the Palestinians, they said more than 90%.
I agree that the Palestinians need assistance with governance, but that's more from the dichotomy of religious extremism-vs-despotism that exists (and that we've contributed to considerably) throughout the Middle East and the Arab world. The Israelis are not innocent in the Palestinian hatred of them, either; you can't play the role of oppressor and handle things as poorly as the Israelis have for as long a they have with no actual solution and not expect your adversary to hate the snot out of you. That's not the same thing as what happened with the Jews and the Nazis, but I agree that does a good job of emphasizing the scale of the problem.
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Finally, my opinion is that half the world is Muslim. There are plenty of Muslim countries. Judaism is the 2nd oldest religion behind Hinduism. They have a right to have a "Jewish state" without having to share large sections of it with people who want them dead. If our concern is truly for "minorities" ... then you won't find a group that's more minority than the Jews. They make up less than 1/10th of 1% of the world's population.
Honestly I think the religious aspects of this are a veneer. This is a land conflict between groups that have been conflicting over this land for as long as humans have had conflicts over land. Personally, I'd split the land proportionally now based on a set point-in-time population and enforce the international borders there with multi-governmental forces, then use lessons-learned from Iraq to engage in far less heavy-handed nation building there. I'm all for autonomy, but not if you're gonna use it to screw the rest of the world up indefinitely. Externalities and all that.
This depends very much on what historical account you give credence to. The Bible is pretty clear that Solomon ruled the area, but there's no archeological evidence of that, of the invasion...any of it. Really what the physical record indicates is that the Jews were themselves Canaanites, sharing a common ancestry with the Palestinians. The large difference is that the Palestinians were Arabicized at some more contemporary point, while the Jews were not. From that standpoint, this is more like breaking up the estate in a contentious divorce; there is no single 'rightful' owner, and some compromise must be reached.
Honestly I think the religious aspects of this are a veneer. This is a land conflict between groups that have been conflicting over this land for as long as humans have had conflicts over land. Personally, I'd split the land proportionally now based on a set point-in-time population and enforce the international borders there with multi-governmental forces, then use lessons-learned from Iraq to engage in far less heavy-handed nation building there. I'm all for autonomy, but not if you're gonna use it to screw the rest of the world up indefinitely. Externalities and all that.
I disagree... you may not believe the Bible's account of timeframe, but we can account for the carbon dating of buildings and ruins in both present Israel and Egypt, all of which are referenced, including Exodus, which occurred roughly around 1,500 BCE.
The Arab's at the time were a conquering force... we know this history. It's why Hispanics are brown, and Spain has middle-Eastern architecture.
I have sympathy for human suffering, and I dislike it. But I don't have any obligation to feel sorry for one plight over another. I'd personally be OK with Israel taking over the whole of Palestine and peacefully resettling the Palestinians into another territory that we section off. But if I'm trying to be fair, with the understanding that the Israelis have the upper hand (and can essentially do what they want), my suggestions above would get Israel what they want, and Palestine would have to accept the fate they've chosen for themselves by electing a radical terrorist government that actively kills their own citizens.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE BUYBULL IS MADE UP
SO NO ''I disagree... you may not believe the Bible's account of timeframe, but we can account for the carbon dating of buildings and ruins in both present Israel and Egypt, all of which are referenced, including Exodus, which occurred roughly around 1,500 BCE.''
NO JEWISH POTS not in egypt ever in 1500bce 300bce sure after big al no jewish pots or bits shards in sinai
btw the so called holy land is inside the egyptian empire
the history of jewish empire is a LIE that never was egyptian vassal to vassal of Babylonian to the medes to persians greek romans arabs ect no jewish empire just revolts they were are and will be revolting and lost ever time they did revolt
and the religious arabs who fight the jews are CONSERVATIVES in their culture liberal arabs are few and anti-war
If we look at history, the people we refer to as "Palestinians" have absolutely no claim to the land they're on whatsoever..
So why was the area called "Palestine"? why was UN Resolution 181 (II) called the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine?
The Jews had no superior claim to the land than the Arabs. If it was the Jews land then they would not have needed the United Nations to create a country for them.
So why was the area called "Palestine"? why was UN Resolution 181 (II) called the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine?
The Jews had no superior claim to the land than the Arabs. If it was the Jews land then they would not have needed the United Nations to create a country for them.
There's this website called Google... try it out and let me know what you find.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: There's this website called Google... try it out and let me know what you find.
So here is what it told me
Immediately following their declaration of war on the Ottoman Empire the British War Cabinet began to consider the future of Palestine (at the time, an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population). The British government issued the Balfour Declaration, a public statement announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, on 2 November 1917. The opening words of the declaration represented the first public expression of support for Zionism by a major political power. The term "national home" had no precedent in international law, and was intentionally vague about whether a Jewish state was contemplated. The British government later confirmed that the words "in Palestine" meant that the Jewish national home was not intended to cover all of Palestine.
So tell me again how this gives the Jews a superior claim to the area than the Arab/Palestinians?
RAFAH, Gaza Strip — The Hamas terror group’s Rafah Brigade has been decimated, at least 2,308 of its operatives have been killed by the Israel Defense Forces, and over 13 kilometers (8 miles) worth of tunnels have been destroyed, military officials told reporters in the Gaza Strip’s southernmost city on Thursday.
Now, as the IDF maintains control of the entire city and the border area with Egypt, known as the Philadelphi Corridor, combat engineers are completing their investigations of a few dozen Hamas tunnels that have not yet been demolished, an operation that will not take longer than a few weeks.
wonder how many kids and women they killed to do that 10 for each fighter or just guys with no military role in any of the BS and leveled a city el plants sewer water gas food warehouses ect the zionist troops want to expel the natives the long term goal is to make the gaza prison a ruin no one can live in
wonder how many kids and women they killed to do that 10 for each fighter or just guys with no military role in any of the BS and leveled a city el plants sewer water gas food warehouses ect the zionist troops want to expel the natives the long term goal is to make the gaza prison a ruin no one can live in
Most of the people here weren't even alive in the '60s. They don't know what you are doing. I do.
. 100 Hamas destroyed for every hostage murdered, how about 200 ? ' That's so unfair ! ' ~ The UN and the American msm ' That's not fair ! They are destroying our orcs ! Our Marxist Nazi Hamas demons and their sympathizers ! ' What that means is that in some time, no more Marxist Nazi Hamas monsters will attack Israel, a successful result to another conflict waged against the Nation of David. Insane, ignorant, deluded, attempting again the same strategy and tactics, hoping for a different result, disappointed again, predictably losing what they started, again. ' What if we waste 10K for every hostage ? Would they then stop attacking ? ' ' 20K ! ' The World recoils in horror, the human casualties, the orcs and demons, the Marxist Nazi Hamas ogres and their sympathizers, even here in North America, the sycophants. ' If you stop attacking us, we won't destroy you ! ' Sounds simple and reasonable. Sadly, there is no reasoning with zombies, ' Remove the head, or destroy the brain ! ' Zombies, they have no life, nothing to lose, no great loss, useless meat walking into the machine gun fire, not a thought in their heads. Must be genetics, morons not intelligent enough to do simple logic. ' Wasting zombies at this rate, we will raise the mean iQ of the human race ! ' ' Yeah I never thought of it that way before ! ' Yeah ! Culling from the human genetic pool, the sub-morons ! That sounds logical and a boon to humanity ! Seems reasonable ! '
. ' Did Biden_Joe pull out of Ashley in '93 ? ' ' No, Biden_Joe did not pull out of Ashley, he pumped his full nut into her starfish. ' ~ What a depraved creep ! ~ Luke delivers the payload '77 See, the high rise buildings in Beirut all have elevator shafts, directly connecting the rooftop to the basement headquarters. A five-ton laser-guided missile could make it to the bottom if it accurately entered the opening at the top. Naturally, a few preliminary strikes to clear the way of the cable spools and gearbox would be necessary, several radio transceivers to attract the big boomers, placed there by small drones, good to ten inches, or in Lebanon, 250 mm. ' Any significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic ' ~ Arthur C. Clarke Answering the question, ' How did they do it ? ' Intelligence is just timely accurate information, like.. ' Is their leader in his bunker ? ' ' Hezbollah ! Listen to this ! ' Ka-Boom !
