Ron, with all due respect, we barely have a system. We have caps based on numbers from decades ago that don’t even try to consider recent history. We have lottery systems that lock out fantastic people. We have complex paperwork and timelines that’s hard to navigate for people who understand the system. And all of it existed before Biden.
We need an overhaul. Biden has made the issue worse, but most of the current issues rest on global conflicts and issues against our complex system, not this administration’s policies.
I've heard the same thing from Democrats for some time. There are no perfect systems but, if the current system had not been bastardized, we wouldn't have around 8 million aliens living off the US taxpayers with thousands more crossing every day. I've never been a fan of DJT, but building that wall was a wonderful idea and a needed policy/barrier. I won't suggest that some changes don't need to be considered to our immigration process but, with the number of aliens we know of and the unknown number we don't know about, the border needs to be locked down.
This President is putting us on the road to be a Welfare State. The aliens who are here can't work for any legitimate business without getting government approvals, so now they are living off the US taxpayer, getting free medical, housing and food. We have veterans and other US citizens who don't get treated that well. Biden has significantly increased the opportunity for terrorist cells in this country. The President of the United States owes his allegiance first to US citizens, this President has failed that test beyond anything I've ever seen. When the crap hits the fan, don't say you weren't warned.
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Originally posted by blackrams: The illegal aliens who are here can't work for any legitimate business without getting government approvals, so now they are living off the US taxpayer, getting free medical, housing and food. We have veterans and other US citizens who don't get treated that well.
They also can not speak the American language. Which slows down schools learning ability. They are also under educated which means they are not capable to work in any capacity except vote for free cheese.
Originally posted by olejoedad: You live in a porta potty named Kalipornia... and you allow certain people to live rent free in your mind.
If someone posts a meme or a cartoon, why should I not feel free to critique it? It's part of the conversation. It became part of the conversation from the moment when Wichita posted it.
I say "Wichita," because he is the forum member who posts memes and cartoons in conspicuously greater abundance and with considerably more regularity than anyone else.
If someone else besides Wichita posts a meme or cartoon, I would consider that on a similar basis: it becomes fair game for me to critique or comment.
It's just one of the obvious modalities of an online message board or forum of this kind.
Over the past few days, large groups of migrant men, women and some families with children have spent the night in a makeshift staging ground in this rugged section of the U.S.-Mexico border, waiting for overtaxed border officials to process them. Many expect to be released into the U.S. after being vetted by local Border Patrol agents, who lack the resources and manpower to screen everyone in a timely manner.
Most of the migrant men hailed from African countries, including Guinea, Mauritania, Morocco and Senegal, as well as some nations in Asia like Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Pakistan and Syria. Some men had left their hometowns in Ecuador and other parts of Latin America. The families traveling with children were predominantly Mexican and Central American.
The migrants set up fires at night and in the early morning hours to keep warm amid dropping temperatures. Many of them brought blankets to sleep next to the border wall. Without restrooms, they relieved themselves near the cacti that adorn the picturesque landscape of this national monument, located two hours away from the closest U.S. city.
Originally posted by rinselberg: If someone posts a meme or a cartoon, why should I not feel free to critique it? It's part of the conversation. It became part of the conversation from the moment when Wichita posted it.
If you don't mind your crying and whining in public, feel free to critique. See what I did there ?
If someone posts a meme or a cartoon, why should I not feel free to critique it? It's part of the conversation. It became part of the conversation from the moment when Wichita posted it.
rinselberg, do you know what you are doing to Wichita?
You provide Wichita with laugh after laugh, smile after smile. Not only Wichita.
Offer your own critiques of the memes and cartoons, as they are posted by Wichita, or by whoever else might venture into that same memes and cartoons-dominated genre of expression.
Originally posted by rinselberg: Offer your own critiques of the memes and cartoons, as they are posted by Wichita, or by whoever else might venture into that same memes and cartoons-dominated genre of expression.
How dare you ? I don't need your permission and I don't need your limitations on what I can critique !
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Originally posted by rinselberg: Critique my critiques.
I do.
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Remember that these leftist purple haired, gauged earlobes, fat tatted people who never graduated from college, but were granted 'emergency' teaching certs who only want to teach about sexual lifestyles are the ones teaching your children in these government schools.
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Originally posted by Wichita: Remember that these leftist purple haired, gauged earlobes, fat tatted people who never graduated from college, but were granted 'emergency' teaching certs who only want to teach about sexual lifestyles are the ones teaching your children in these government schools.
What a bizarre and really, hallucinatory "word salad"..!
Here's a countervailing dose of reality:
"American Students Outperformed the Rest of the World During the Pandemic"
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By now, you’ve probably registered the alarm that pandemic learning loss has produced a “lost generation” of American students.
This self-lacerating story has formed the heart of an indictment of American school policies during the pandemic, increasingly cited by critics of the country’s mitigation policies as the clearest example of pandemic overreach.
But we keep getting more data about American student performance over the last few years, and the top lines suggest a pretty modest setback, even compared to how well the country’s students performed, in recent years, in the absence of any pandemic disruption.
Now, for the first time, we have good international data and can compare American students’ performance with students’ in peer countries that, in many cases, made different choices about whether and when to close schools and whether and when to open them.
This data comes from the Program for International Student Assessment, coordinated by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in almost 80 countries typically every three years — a long-running, unimpeachable, nearly global standardized test measure of student achievement among the world’s 15-year-olds in math, reading and science.
And what it shows is quite eye-opening. American students improved their standing among their international peers in all three areas during the pandemic, the data says. Some countries did better than the United States, and the American results do show some areas of concern. But U.S. school policies do not seem to have pushed American kids into their own academic black hole. In fact, Americans did better in relation to their peers in the aftermath of school closures than they did before the pandemic.
The article continues online, but only for online subscribers of the New York Times. Others, perhaps, can "hack it" to get access. Not that anyone would. I could post a usable link for non-subscribers using my Gift Access option, but it hardly seems worth it.
Originally posted by Wichita: Remember that these leftist purple haired, gauged earlobes, fat tatted people who never graduated from college, but were granted 'emergency' teaching certs who only want to teach about sexual lifestyles are the ones teaching your children in these government schools.
Is that what Wichita's teachers were like?
This is what prompts the question: This "Ice Berg" meme models the melting of an iceberg, or ice that is floating offshore, as in the Arctic and Antarctic latitudes. That's "sea ice."
It does not model the melting of "land ice" like the Greenland ice sheet and the huge glaciers that cover the land of the Antarctic continent. The melting of land ice in a warming global climate is what climate researchers factor into their projections of sea level rise.
An iceberg does not cause sea levels to rise as it melts. It causes sea levels to rise when it "calves"... when it breaks off from the edge of a glacier that has reached the coastline and goes into the sea. This process is driven by the thawing of glaciers, which lubricates the underside of a glacier with meltwater and causes it to flow downhill, towards the sea.
When a glacier goes from the land into the sea, either by the calving of icebergs or by meltwater flowing into the sea from rivers and streams—that's when sea levels rise.
It's obvious when it's glacial meltwater flowing into the sea. But when it's the calving of an iceberg, that causes sea levels to rise by displacing an amount of seawater equal to the mass of the iceberg... Archimedes principle of buoyancy.
What the Ice Berg meme overlooks is that the level of the water in the measuring cup did increase in this humble, kitchen table science experiment—when the ice from the freezer was floated on top of the water that was already in the measuring cup. That's what would model the calving of an iceberg.
Remember who posted this canard without adding any words of his own, as if he were the legendary Oracle of Delphi, majestically revealing "Truth" to an awestruck audience.
"How sea levels rise, and why this 'Wichita' Ice Berg meme is ignorance—not science." https://www.fiero.n...00452.html Click to show
Katie Hobbs wants to send the National Guard to the border. If you know anything about our governor, that is about like AOC demanding that we build the wall.
Democrats are clashing about how to deal with an influx of migrants bused to sanctuary cities by Texas Governor Greg Abbott.
Abbott, a Republican, began sending buses of migrants to Democratic-led "sanctuary cities," which protect undocumented immigrants from deportation, in 2022 amid growing frustration about a rise in encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border. There were more than 2.4 million encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border during the 2023 fiscal year, up from roughly 1.7 million in 2021, according to data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
The influx of migrants to these cities is dividing Democratic leaders, while testing their pro-immigration policies. Elected officials in cities including New York City, Chicago and Washington, D.C. were forced to scramble to secure housing and resources for migrants, drawing criticism from those who say their response drained resources and prevented lawmakers from tackling other issues, such as homelessness or crime. Meanwhile, some Democratic officials have shifted their position on immigration, challenging the Biden administration's stance.
Tensions came to a head in Chicago Thursday after Mayor Brandon Johnson blocked an advisory ballot referendum that would have given city voters the chance to weigh in on whether Chicago should remain a sanctuary city.
The proposal, introduced by Alderman Anthony Beale, failed to pass the city council, lacking Johnson's support, local television news station WFLD reported. The proposal would have asked voters, "Should the city of Chicago limit its designation as a sanctuary city by placing spending limits on its public funding?"
Beale slammed his fellow Democrats for rejecting the proposal, arguing that funds should go to residents of the community who have been "paying taxes their entire life, can't get a furnace, can't get a roof, can't get a hot water heater, can't get a back porch," WFLD reported.
"It is a shame that you all are scared. What are you scared of? To let the people have a voice? What are you scared of—the truth? Are we afraid that the people are going to tell us that we are spending money frivolously?...Are we afraid that the people are going to tell us that we are headed in the wrong direction?" he asked.
Newsweek reached out to Johnson's office and the White House for comment via email.
More than 25,000 migrants have arrived to Chicago since August 31, 2022, according to city data. Johnson has allocated $150 million for migrant care, including housing and food, for 2024, reported WTTW, Chicago's PBS station. The city council earlier this year approved $51 million to support migrant communities, with some Democrats arguing these funds should have instead addressed homelessness or supported the city's Black community.
Migration Poses New Political Challenge to Democrats Grant Davis Reeher, a professor of political science at Syracuse University, told Newsweek on Friday that the migration issue has created a headache for Democrats as they offer different responses to the crisis.
"For some Democrats, it's further cemented their views that concerns over immigration expressed by border states are cynical and mostly driven by racial resentment and prejudice. They see the busing as a gimmick to make them look like hypocrites. But others are rethinking some of their views, as they watch their local governments struggle to handle the new arrivals," he said.
Reeher noted that Democratic leaders, such as New York Governor Kathy Hochul, have become more willing to call on the Biden administration to do more to solve the influx of migrants arriving to Democratic cities, suggesting "the worries long expressed by those in border states actually do have merit."
New York City Democrats Clash Over Migrants Democrats in other sanctuary cities have also clashed over the influx of migrants.
In New York, New York City Mayor Eric Adams has enraged some liberal Democrats by changing his rhetoric on immigration. He has hit out at President Joe Biden, blaming his policies for the influx of migrants and in September said the migrant issue will "destroy" the city.
His remarks have faced rebuke from his fellow Democrats.
"The idea that new arrivals would destroy New York City is absurd to me. New arrivals, immigrants, made our city," City Councilor Tiffany Cabán, a progressive who has previously been endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), told The Guardian in September. "I think there's a real possibility of his rhetoric fomenting violence, and that's the last thing we need."
Meanwhile, New York City has seen more than 100,000 migrants arrive in the fiscal year of 2023 and has spent $1.45 billion on migrant services, according to city data.
And, while it is costing the "Sanctuary Cities" and us a fortune to "provide" housing, food and medical care, just wait until the next terrorist attack. Yes, I do believe it's coming.
Edtied: Yeah, some Dems are still denying the facts but, they'll either come around or will suffer from their decisions. Yes, decisions have consecquences.....
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Mexican military seize TEN IEDs at the US-Mexico border at Tucson: Border patrol agents are warned to be 'vigilant' as America is faced with unprecedented migrant surge
*Border agents were told to 'exercise extreme caution and report any possible armed subjects with possible explosive devices'
*Cartels in the Mexico part of the border are fighting for control of a gap in the border wall used for drug and human smuggling Human smugglers have been recently using the remote part of the Arizona desert to get migrants to the US
Border patrol agents have been warned to be vigilant after Mexico's military seized ten improvised explosive devices (IEDs) at the border with Arizona as the US continues to see a surge of migrants.
In an internal officer safety alert seen by Fox Business, border agents were told to 'exercise extreme caution and report any possible armed subjects with possible explosive devices.' It comes after Mexican officials found the IEDs on Wednesday after being alerted by US officials to a cartel turf war gunfight south of the border. The cartels are reportedly fighting for control of a gap in the border wall used for drug and human smuggling.
Prior to the IEDs finding, US authorities had arrested a man on the US side who was armed with a loaded AK-47 rifle, two loaded AK magazines, loose rounds and a handgun.
The man reportedly told border patrol agents about 11 armed suspects nearby. As agents heard gunfire coming from the Mexico side, the pulled back - before the Mexican military found the 10 explosive devices filled with shrapnel and black powder.
Border patrol agents have previously reporting encountering migrants carrying IEDs.
In September, border patrol agents found an abandoned backpack stuffed with a cannonball-sized IEDs and ammunition, as reported by News Nation. There were no migrants found at the scene.
In May, US officials found an IED at the Arizona point of entry. The device was used made an M&M container wrapped with electrical tape.
Human smugglers have been recently using a remote part of the Arizona desert to get migrants to the US.
A shift in smuggling routes has brought an influx of migrants here from countries as diverse as Senegal, Bangladesh and China, prompting the Border Patrol to seek help from other federal agencies and drawing scrutiny to an issue critical in next year’s presidential elections.
With hundreds of migrants crossing daily in the area, the U.S. government last week indefinitely shut down the nearby international crossing between Lukeville, Arizona, and Sonoyta, Mexico, to free Customs and Border Protection officers assigned to the port of entry to help with transportation and other support.
The agency also has partially closed a few other border ports of entry in recent months, including a pedestrian crossing in San Diego and a bridge in Eagle Pass, Texas.
US authorities have been so short-handed in Arizona that they have used charter flights to transfer some migrants from Tucson to three Texas border cities for processing, according Witness at the Border, an advocacy group that analyzes flight data.
Heading into next year’s presidential elections, the border is a top issue for voters, especially Republicans, and immigration issues could be a liability for Biden, a Democrat, as he runs for reelection.
A national AP-NORC poll conducted in November found about half of U.S. adults say increasing security at the U.S.-Mexico border should be a 'high priority' for the federal government, with 3 in 10 calling it a 'moderate priority.' Republicans were more likely than Democrats to call it a high priority.
Additional funding for border security has been held up in Congress over a package to provide additional aid to Israel and Ukraine in their wars against Hamas and Russia.
Migrant encounters at the open southern border hit their highest ever single day total last Tuesday, as an astounding 12,000 people flooded across the border into the US.
The last year of the Biden presidency has seen the highest ever number of migrant encounters at 2.4million. September had the highest ever monthly rate of illegal crosser-encounters at 260,000.
Remind me again about how secure our border is....................
for reference: Sonora is the state just south of me and Sasabe straddles the border about 150 miles from my front door. There is Sasabe AZ and Sasabe SO.
On a recent November evening, residents of Sásabe, a small outpost on the US-Mexico border, received threatening messages warning of an impending attack. The next morning, they awoke to several houses engulfed in flames and dozens of men with high-powered weapons shooting at each other around the main plaza.
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Days before that November morning when the group of residents pleaded with US border officials for protection, tensions had risen such that the Sinaloa Cartel faction fending off the Chapitos’ incursion turned on the local population in Sásabe. They worried residents were aiding the enemy.
Some of the attacks occurred in broad daylight. On November 6, gunmen shot Rogelio Carillo twice outside of a convenience store. Several locals told InSight Crime he had nothing to do with organized crime groups in the area. With the closest hospital in Caborca, some two hours away, they loaded him into the back of a pickup truck and brought him to the US port of entry to seek medical assistance.
Two Sásabe residents told InSight Crime that US officials refused to help. CBP did not respond to requests for comment on the case or the security situation in Sásabe.
Nobody cares. It is not in their backyard.
Nobody even noticed until it became an inconvenience to Nueva York.
It's like living up the road from Somalia. When I was younger, I spent a lot of time in Mexico, through Sonora, Sinaloa and Nayarit. I have not been down there in 25 years.
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for reference: Sonora is the state just south of me and Sasabe straddles the border about 150 miles from my front door. There is Sasabe AZ and Sasabe SO.
Nobody even noticed until it became an inconvenience to Nueva York.
Understood but they will care when crap hits the fan. You'd think they'd care more about all the tax dollars being spent, the overloading of schools and hospitals and, the hidden agenda of the Biden Administration. You're correct though, until the border crisis hits them in the face, some just don't care.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: Trying to imagine cliffw offering support for this assertion is like trying to imagine Donald Trump making a coherent statement.
"Trying to imagine cliffw offering support for this assertion is like trying to imagine rinselberg making a coherent statement."
Fixed that for you rinselberg.
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... despite the United States having the best-surveyed education system on the globe, U.S students consistently score lower in math and science than students from many other countries. According to a Business Insider report in 2018, the U.S. ranked 38th in math scores and 24th in science. Discussions about why the United States' education rankings have fallen by international standards over the past three decades ...
... despite the United States having the best-surveyed education system on the globe, U.S students consistently score lower in math and science than students from many other countries. According to a Business Insider report in 2018, the U.S. ranked 38th in math scores and 24th in science. Discussions about why the United States' education rankings have fallen by international standards over the past three decades ...
That's observation. But what about attribution? The second part of cliffw's prior remark, in which he put this on "leftoids."
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they all played by the rules and filled out the forms and paid the fees so were 100% legal none jumped a fence
so walls or ditches crocks/with lasers or machine gun posts or dogs or marines could NOT stop a single one of them
so continue to bitck about illegal terror in your small minds
real world not so much
So, now add about 8 million others that have crossed the border with no idea of where their allegiance is. Don't say you weren't warned. One would think the threat would be recognized but, I guess it's going to take another 9/11 to convince some that an open border is just asking for trouble.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: That's observation. But what about attribution? The second part of cliffw's prior remark, in which he put this on "leftoids."
Attribution ? Jeeze. The US education system is infected with leftoid ideals. Indoctrinating our children even through college.
The United States Department of Education, created by leftoids, was championed by the peanut farmer President Jimmy Carter. A leftoid.
It has an annual budget of $68 billion. President's Biden's 2023 Budget request is for $88.3 billion.
The United States Department of Education is pro-union. Uhm, all union. No freedom of choice. Union are a similar denial of rights as are communist countries, and home owners associations.
Another mostly ridiculous meme. The figure on the right side represents Antifa, and Antifa is not at the center of gravity (so to speak) among Democrats. Antifa is Radical Left. It's more akin to Anarchism than to any Democratic Party perspective.
You don't see mainstream Democrats like Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer and many of the other Democrats in Congress cozying up to Antifa, nor do you see Antifa showing any great liking for any of these mainstream Democrats and their colleagues.
So is this a Brain Dead meme? Pretty much. I'd rate it at a full five (5) "Porta-Potties" on the Full of "Chit" scale.
What say you?
Nor do you see either side doing anything about these pieces of crap…..just saying So….looks like the meme is pretty spot on.
Working in a public school system in maintenance for 5 schools I have contact with teachers daily. I can attest that the new teachers coming are not very good. Example- new kindergarten teacher decorating her class room like some freaking Disney ride asks me to measure some shelves….tell her it’s 36”… she asks me “ how many feet is that”. Same person handed our tech dept her new TV remote with the batteries and asked “ what do I do with these?”.A more tenured teacher told me she had a map of the world laid out and a new teacher told her the map is wrong…the Pacific is on both sides. There are exceptions, we do get some level headed teachers. The big problem is when these older teachers retire it’s going to be a crap show of failure.
A long time friend of mine was married to a teacher, a PhD who worked in a district with a lot of low income and ESL students. She passed away a few years ago, but we used to have long discussions about politics, education and immigration. What she told us was not good.
I don't like using cliches, but the system IS broken. A significant portion of the blame can be attributed to the unions. A story that is pervasive in many industries, and we all know where the unions get their power.
In addition, don't forget about Bill Ayers. I have connected the dots before, so I will leave it up to each to do his own research this time.
