Yep. Here's a shout-out for the Thirty Years War, and for syphilis before there was penicillin... for all the smaller anti-Jewish pogroms of history that came before the Holocaust and for the Holocaust itself... for dentistry and trauma surgery before there was anesthesia... for all of history before modern times, when "men were men and women were women" and before there were video cameras to film "gay butt sex" for the minority of men who weren't "men," even in pre-modern times.
Originally posted by 2.5: Folks should argue with the actual person you are talking to instead of the imaginary one in your head that makes arguing easier.
For all practical purposes, there is no arguing with Wichita, or any other kind of online interaction with him.
He's become a Harpo Marx-like character, almost silent, except for the memes and cartoons that he posts. He's like a TV broadcast. You can see it and hear it, but you can't say anything to it. You can't have a conversation with it.
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Originally posted by 2.5: Folks should argue with the actual person you are talking to instead of the imaginary one in your head that makes arguing easier.
This is like 2.5 turning into a "back seat driver."
Wichita posted this cartoon, along with a few words of his own. You can find it by scrolling backwards (or upwards) within this page 2 of the thread.
BingB reacted to this manifestation from Wichita. And so also, myself. I reacted to it.
Wouldn't it make more sense for 2.5 to react to what Wichita posted, instead of criticizing (and criticizing in this odd way) what BingB said about what Wichita posted?
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: You're mischaracterizing the quote. It's "men" plural... as in society. WEAK MEN allowed those individuals to take power... because the weak men did nothing about it.
Really? That wasn't my interpretation (obviously) of this cartoon from Wichita and the words from Wichita that accompanied it.
I think it's just another feeble-minded Wichita "slagging" of LGBTQ+ groups and individuals.
This is a picture that's "worth a thousand words"... a real "olejoedad" pleaser if ever there was one.
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Really? That wasn't my interpretation (obviously) of this cartoon from Wichita and the words from Wichita that accompanied it.
I think it's just another feeble-minded Wichita "slagging" of LGBTQ+ groups and individuals.
This is a picture that's "worth a thousand words"... a real "olejoedad" pleaser if ever there was one.
Ok, I don't know what all you've got going on with Wichita, but the quote is as old as humanity. But it was used more recently in a book called "Those Who Remain" which talks about successive "generations" of weak and strong men replacing themselves. That, strong men fight the battles which result in weak men, who then fail to stand up for what is right, which results in tough times, that in turn results in people ... once again, fighting back (strong men).
You need only look at an assault video on a train or bus... everyone just sits there and watches. Every situation I've been in, I've tried to intervene in any way that I could. I'd never simply sit there while a girl is raped or beat up by some dude. But I'm a big guy, so maybe that's the difference.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Ok, I don't know what all you've got going on with Wichita, but the quote is as old as humanity. But it was used more recently in a book called "Those Who Remain" which talks about successive "generations" of weak and strong men replacing themselves. That, strong men fight the battles which result in weak men, who then fail to stand up for what is right, which results in tough times, that in turn results in people ... once again, fighting back (strong men).
You need only look at an assault video on a train or bus... everyone just sits there and watches. Every situation I've been in, I've tried to intervene in any way that I could. I'd never simply sit there while a girl is raped or beat up by some dude. But I'm a big guy, so maybe that's the difference.
I think what is significant, in divining what Wichita had in mind, is what is in the lower pane of the cartoon that he posted. Or how the cartoon ends. The "punchline." Where it says "MA'AM."
Given my familiarity with Wichita's remarks over the years, this tells me that his cartoon, and the words that he posted along with it, are just another feeble-minded Wichita "slagging" of LGBTQ+ groups and individuals. That, more than anything else. It's "signature" Wichita. A Wichita motif.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Ok, I don't know what all you've got going on with Wichita, but the quote is as old as humanity. But it was used more recently in a book called "Those Who Remain" which talks about successive "generations" of weak and strong men replacing themselves. That, strong men fight the battles which result in weak men, who then fail to stand up for what is right, which results in tough times, that in turn results in people ... once again, fighting back (strong men).
You need only look at an assault video on a train or bus... everyone just sits there and watches. Every situation I've been in, I've tried to intervene in any way that I could. I'd never simply sit there while a girl is raped or beat up by some dude. But I'm a big guy, so maybe that's the difference.
I think what is significant, in divining what Wichita had in mind, is what is in the lower pane of the cartoon that he posted. Or how the cartoon ends. The "punchline." Where it says "MA'AM."
I'm not here to criticize people who define themselves as transgender. I've known a lot of trans people... it just goes with my line of work. My first "trans" co-worker was over 22 years ago... and he (now she) had gone through all the surgeries, top and bottom, as well as facial reconstruction. I don't want to speak ill of her, but he suffered from a lot of mental illness unrelated to gender dysphoria, but regardless... it was a different time, and a different kind of personality.
Many of the people you see today... pretty much the one referenced in the image above, is a different "kind" of person. It's not someone with just gender dysphoria, but someone who has an axe to grind. For individuals like that, it's not just enough that they want to be themselves... but they demand a lot of things. If a woman was being raped on the bus, the two examples on Wichita's meme... which one do you think would come to the aid of the victim? Would it be the person with the "danger" hair and the oppression complex? Or would it be the soldier who believes he's fighting for a cause? This is the problem we face today. The person on the bottom is emblematic of the type of personalities that people have today... it's all about "them," and no one thinks about society as a whole today... what's good for society. These are the people who "want to live their best life," rather than think about how they could otherwise spend their life being productive for the good of society. To a degree, this is very much why Socialism occurs... people begin to think only of themselves, and then expect the Government to provide for them... which then turns into Communism, and in an ironic twist... they're now being forced to provide for the Government's benefit... which is almost paradoxical when you consider it.
Originally posted by rinselberg: I think what is significant, in divining what Wichita had in mind, is what is in the lower pane of the cartoon that he posted. Or how the cartoon ends. The "punchline." Where it says "MA'AM."
Given my familiarity with Wichita's remarks over the years, this tells me that his cartoon, and the words that he posted along with it, are just another feeble-minded Wichita "slagging" of LGBTQ+ groups and individuals. That, more than anything else. It's "signature" Wichita. A Wichita motif.
Think what you wish. Believe what you think. Why do you deny the truth of his rinselberg button pushing meme ?
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I'm not here to criticize people who define themselves as transgender. I've known a lot of trans people... it just goes with my line of work. My first "trans" co-worker was over 22 years ago... and he (now she) had gone through all the surgeries, top and bottom, as well as facial reconstruction. I don't want to speak ill of her, but he suffered from a lot of mental illness unrelated to gender dysphoria, but regardless... it was a different time, and a different kind of personality.
Many of the people you see today... pretty much the one referenced in the image above, is a different "kind" of person. It's not someone with just gender dysphoria, but someone who has an axe to grind. For individuals like that, it's not just enough that they want to be themselves... but they demand a lot of things. If a woman was being raped on the bus, the two examples on Wichita's meme... which one do you think would come to the aid of the victim? Would it be the person with the "danger" hair and the oppression complex? Or would it be the soldier who believes he's fighting for a cause? This is the problem we face today. The person on the bottom is emblematic of the type of personalities that people have today... it's all about "them," and no one thinks about society as a whole today... what's good for society. These are the people who "want to live their best life," rather than think about how they could otherwise spend their life being productive for the good of society. To a degree, this is very much why Socialism occurs... people begin to think only of themselves, and then expect the Government to provide for them... which then turns into Communism, and in an ironic twist... they're now being forced to provide for the Government's benefit... which is almost paradoxical when you consider it.
Change whatever, the chromosomes are what determines biological gender.
Each and every one of us in this life have crosses to bear.
Change whatever, the chromosomes are what determines biological gender.
Each and every one of us in this life have crosses to bear.
I thought the godbothered blame it on satan not ever DNA else they have to admit gay is born not made
OK what about hermaphrodite's
and many think you need to drop the cross BS as only nuts lug around a cross and worry far more about your nation and the screwed up Gop while the fairytales do not need any new laws and most old fairy based laws need repeal
91 counts in courts now say my ideas have real concrete facts
proof of a god or any supernatural anything
or any good results from last time of the rumps rule ? debt up no gains no heath care reforms tax the rich no less but NO increase from it or why a neo-nazi added rerun is needed now ?
Originally posted by williegoat: Like the way you believe in "Global Warming" and "The Great Insurrection"? Then stop supporting the Left.
well warming has charts of temperature records ice core sea levels ect the treason and other crimes by the rumpists have COURT CON-VICTIONS
YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM HAS RULES FOR GOAT HERDERS and bunch of crazy storys with no evidence PLUS ZOMBIES 3 BOOKS WITH MINOR CONFLICTS AND ONE WITH MAJOR AS DIFFERENT DAYS ORDERS OF EVENTS ECT AND NO ONE OUTSIDE THE CULT NOTICED NOT EVEN THE ZOMBIES WERE NOTED
Don't hold back, rayb. Tell us how you really feel!
( Oh, could you provide a list of the convictions against DJT?)
coming soon but courts soon ie months but that is lots sooner then religious soon = never his scam took a long time to run and first we need to have a trial on the criminal charges 91 counts so far several states are still building cases plus several feds and count on the rump SOP DELAY CONFUSE &DELAY MORE
Originally posted by Wichita: Deep inside a leftist is a angry crying boy. It reveals itself once you peel back their layers of superficial facades.
That's rich. Being lectured about "leftists" by the forum member who couldn't find a leftist if he woke up to find the ghost of Karl Marx rummaging through his nightstand. He seldom offers a remark that does not start with the word "leftist," and what does he ever offer—specifically—about "leftists," aside from the banality of cartoons and memes like this? What does he ever offer to distinguish himself from the "leftists" and other groups or ideas that he is constantly slagging in this insipid and mindlessly repetitive manner?
Rachel Maddow's eight-part podcast ULTRA, which was awarded the 2023 Hillman Prize for Broadcast Journalism, presents a less familiar part of American history in a way that exposes the colossal ignorance of a "Wichita," who could look at a photograph of a 1939 rally of America First isolationists and American Nazi sympathizers and caption it with a feeble-minded historical reductionism: "Leftists."
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Originally posted by rinselberg: Rachel Maddow's eight-part podcast ULTRA, which was awarded the 2023 Hillman Prize for Broadcast Journalism, presents a less familiar part of American history in a way that exposes the colossal ignorance of a "Wichita," who could look at a photograph of a 1939 rally of America First isolationists and American Nazi sympathizers and caption it with a feeble-minded historical reductionism: "Leftists."
Can you explain a bit more about this show? To be honest, I don't plan on watching it. Does it basically try to explain how radical leftists are not emblematic of most people on the left ... or something like that?
Sitting members of Congress aiding and abetting a plot to overthrow the U.S. government. Insurrectionists criminally charged with plotting to end American democracy for good. Justice Department prosecutors under crushing political pressure. "Rachel Maddow Presents: ULTRA" is the all-but-forgotten true story of good, old-fashioned American extremism getting supercharged by proximity to power. When extremist elected officials get caught plotting against America with the violent ultra right, this is the story of the lengths they will go to… to cover their tracks.
No one who is familiar with the multi-faceted history of the America First isolationists and American Nazi sympathizers before and even during America's participation in World War Two could reasonably reduce it all to just "leftists"—the way Wichita described it, on this very forum, and more or less "out of the blue" if memory serves me.
I don't think I can go back and find that exact moment again in the archives of this forum.
That moment was already beginning to recede in my rearview mirror (so to speak) before I fully realized the urgency of this task:
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Originally posted by rinselberg: When extremist elected officials get caught plotting against America with the violent ultra right, this is the story of the lengths they will go to… to cover their tracks.
"violent ultra right," Rinse... ???
Only one person died that day, and it was a Trump supporter... who was shot by a secret service agent.
I have to say, the hypocrisy is outrageous to me. The Capitol has been breached (barricades knocked down, and Capitol police pushed aside) no more than THREE other times in the last decade, literally by radical leftists... and the media doesn't bat an eye.
If you think the January 6th "insurrection" was anything more than a media-hyped version of what the Democrats have done many times before... then you're failing to understand that the ONLY reason this is a "big deal" is because the Democrat politicians desperately want nothing more than to prevent Trump from getting back into the White House. From day one, they've worked tireless to do everything they can to "protect themselves" from Trump. All this has ever been, the Russia Collusion Hoax, J6, and many, many other situations, is nothing more than a desperate attempt to eliminate Trump from the presidency.
If you are scared of Trump... and you absolutely should be if you don't want to see the "fundamental transformation" of Obama / Biden's America destroyed, then like all the other Democrats, you'll do whatever you can to prevent him from running again. That's what all of this is...
There is no "violent ultra right." It's the most ridiculous thing I've honestly ever heard. You literally had an entire summer where radical leftists destroyed more than a trillion dollars of infrastructure, small businesses, and both Federal and state facilities... while Democrat leadership NOT ONLY DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... but they actually supported it and encouraged it. Which is absolutely *wild* in my opinion. Has Rachael Maddow talked about ANTIFA and the "truly violent radical left?"
So I guess the answer to my question is YES... this is a documentary to explain away how the radical left does not represent the majority of the left, while at the same time trying to tell everyone that the radical right represents all of the right. The hypocrisy is just astounding...
That's rich. Being lectured about "leftists" by the forum member who couldn't find a leftist if he woke up to find the ghost of Karl Marx rummaging through his nightstand.
By the way... Wichita is not wrong on that meme. If you take a look at any "radical leftist," you will almost invariably find a child who had likely been wronged in some way. Whether it's an autistic child that developed sociopathy because the parents didn't spend any time with them, or a child from a drug-addicted him, a leftist incelebate, or someone who flat-out suffers from mental illness. In almost every one of these cases... a crying child is exceptionally apropos... because that's how it started for almost every single one of them. Leaving out the politics... any half-way decent psychologist would recognize this from the overwhelming vast majority of people who make up what we call "ANTIFA."
Speaking of Christmas... I was wrapping presents last night... and I got three done when I realized that I'd written "From Satan" on all the cards... sigh. I was tired...
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So you admit that you're prognosticating....no trials, no verdicts, no justice, just the court of public opinion.
BTW, I'm not bothered by God, but it appears that you are.
NO THE GOD BIT IS NOT REAL
PROBLEM IS the very real and numerous followers
all you folks who some how have the idea you know his will wants and desires want others to conform to your visions/delusions and are willing to use the nations laws to force the behaviors of others
not to say what they do if can when they have the power history of church and birth control ? just on example
church wanted people who dared teach imprisoned just for information to ADULTS BOOKS PAMPHLETS ECT BAN/BURNED AND A CRIME TO OWN OR GIVE AWAY HERE IN THE USA NOT LONG AGO
