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Nihilism vs Civilization by olejoedad
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There's a difference?

Who knew?
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Anyone could be a "leftist" in the eyes of whatever fever-wasted mentality animates this constant posting of dim-witted memes, cartoons and other dumb remarks from the one Pennock's forum member account.

I wonder if he still makes any sense when he posts in the Tech (Technical Discussions & Questions) section or any of the other parts of the forum like that.

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Have you ever posted in the Tech section?
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Originally posted by olejoedad:
Have you ever posted in the Tech section?

Very seldom, and not at all recently.

I just had the experience of having the sealed beam headlamps changed out on both sides of my 1988 Fiero GT, while I watched.

I'm glad I didn't try it myself. I wouldn't have gotten very far. It took the guy a full two hours of clock time, and he has years of practice working on Corvettes and the occasional Fiero at the repairs shop that he owns.

He even had a little help from the one fully qualified mechanic that works for him. He charged me for 1.7 hours of mechanical labor. As a long time customer, he discounts for me. And some time was lost when he dropped some of the non-magnetic screw fasteners and had to retrieve them from the crevice(s) inside the front end compartment where they landed, after being pulled down by the force of gravity. (duh...)

I asked him if this (Fiero) is the most difficult car for changing out the headlights. He said he's worked on some cars where it's even more of an "operation."

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Dude, it takes 10 minutes to change a Fiero headlight!
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Very seldom, and not at all recently.

I just had the experience of having the sealed beam headlamps changed out on both sides of my 1988 Fiero GT, while I watched.

I'm glad I didn't try it myself. I wouldn't have gotten very far. It took the guy a full two hours of clock time, and he has years of practice working on Corvettes and the occasional Fiero at the repairs shop that he owns.

He even had a little help from the one fully qualified mechanic that works for him. He charged me for 1.7 hours of mechanical labor. As a long time customer, he discounts for me. And some time was lost when he dropped some of the non-magnetic screw fasteners and had to retrieve them from the crevice(s) inside the front end compartment where they landed, after being pulled down by the force of gravity. (duh...)

I asked him if this (Fiero) is the most difficult car for changing out the headlights. He said he's worked on some cars where it's even more of an "operation."



If you have to do it again, I'd highly recommend replacing your headlamps with one of those standard size lamp assemblies where you can replace the bulbs inside... and not have to change the entire fixture. Makes it so much easier. I'm assuming it took as long as it did because he was cleaning and adjusting the headlights and all that.

By any chance... do you have a picture of your Fiero? I mean that earnestly... I think it would make it feel more real. Until this point, I didn't even know you'd ever owned a Fiero... I'm not questioning that (I mean it), but would definitely like to see your 88 Fiero GT if you have any pictures loaded on the computer.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:
Dude, it takes 10 minutes to change a Fiero headlight!

I guess I should look to see if there is a "how to" and come to some conclusion about whether they were making it unnecessarily complicated.

Some years ago I tried to change out one of the sealed beams myself, and I couldn't get past something. I took it to this same repair shop and they did it for me. But I interacted with a mechanic who no longer works there. He came down with some kind of condition that made it impossible for him to keep working... at least, working as a mechanic.

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That's mine.



That's really nice... the paint is perfect, and I even like the way it looks without a spoiler or luggage rack. Very sleek. The gold rims also look really nice with the monochromatic ground effects too. Is it all original? The seats look like leather seats. Very nice!
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I'm assuming it took as long as it did because he was cleaning and adjusting the headlights and all that.


It's been a lot of years since I've had to replace a headlight on a Fiero... but if I remember correctly, swapping out a sealed-beam unit shouldn't affect the aiming. I suspect Rinse was fleeced.
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Hey Patrick,

He said he didn't change or readjust the headlight aim. For each side, he removed 12 screw-type fasteners from the popup headlight assembly, disconnected the old sealed beam, put in a new sealed beam and reconnected it to energize it, and then reinstalled the 12 screw-type fasteners. He removed and reinstalled the chrome trim ring that surrounds the sealed beam as part of all this. And there were these large, black plastic headlamp assembly moldings that he removed and reinstalled as part of all this. He had my battery hooked up to a charger because he said it would keep from draining the battery. He had the headlamp circuits activated during much of this "fooling around."

He was looking at the gauge on the charger and said "Why isn't there more of a draw?" And I said "Well, one of the sealed beams isn't drawing current because it's burned out. That's why we're doing this." And he said, "Right."

I know the guy pretty well. I don't think he was trying to rip me off. Maybe he didn't realize there is a simpler way that doesn't involve all of these "extra-curricular" or ancillary procedures? But that's hard for me to believe, because I know he's had other Fieros in his shop for repairs over the years.


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Looks like there was Politics going on here, and suddenly a "Tech" session materializes. Hasn't it usually been the other way around?

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Beautiful GT rinse.

Merry Christmas.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Looks like there was Politics going on here, and suddenly a "Tech" session materializes. Hasn't it usually been the other way around?


Yes, it's kind of nice for a change. Must be due to Christmas.

 
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He had my battery hooked up to a charger because he said it would keep from draining the battery. He had the headlamp circuits activated during much of this "fooling around."


I don't think he knew what he was doing. He could've turned the headlights off and on at his discretion without activating the headlight motors by having unplugged the single wire that goes to each unit. You might want to find a new mechanic... or just ask us how to fix stuff.
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Wichita didn't present that Angry Child Within meme with the words "radical leftist"—he said "leftist."


Leftist is succinct enough.

You are that angry child within. Whining and crying about Wichita's memes, all the time.
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"Leftist" is not interchangeable with "radical leftist," except for those whose reason has been kicked to the curb by the Angry Child Within.
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"Leftist" is not interchangeable with "radical leftist," ...


Think what you wish, believe what you think.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Think what you wish, believe what you think.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.



Why do we give this guy carte-blanch for determining what is and isn't pretty?


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Why do we give this guy carte-blanch for determining what is and isn't pretty?






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Wichita's in a race to the bottom—with himself.

I saw (in another thread) where someone floated the idea that the "Wichita" account has been compromised, but I can't get my head around the idea that anyone would exploit a compromised user account for... that.

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Wichita's in a race to the bottom—with himself.


So says the oracle of word salad.
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Nothing wrong with adult homophile relationships, marriages, lifestyle or whatever. But haven't you noticed the activist leftist push?

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

"violent ultra right," Rinse... ???

Only one person died that day ["January 6"], and it was a Trump supporter... who was shot by a secret service agent.

I have to say, the hypocrisy is outrageous to me. The Capitol has been breached (barricades knocked down, and Capitol police pushed aside) no more than THREE other times in the last decade, literally by radical leftists... and the media doesn't bat an eye.

If you think the January 6th "insurrection" was anything more than a media-hyped version of what the Democrats have done many times before... then you're failing to understand that the ONLY reason this is a "big deal" is because the Democrat politicians desperately want nothing more than to prevent Trump from getting back into the White House. From day one, they've worked tireless to do everything they can to "protect themselves" from Trump. All this has ever been, the Russia Collusion Hoax, J6, and many, many other situations, is nothing more than a desperate attempt to eliminate Trump from the presidency.

If you are scared of Trump... and you absolutely should be if you don't want to see the "fundamental transformation" of Obama / Biden's America destroyed, then like all the other Democrats, you'll do whatever you can to prevent him from running again. That's what all of this is...

There is no "violent ultra right." It's the most ridiculous thing I've honestly ever heard. You literally had an entire summer where radical leftists destroyed more than a trillion dollars of infrastructure, small businesses, and both Federal and state facilities... while Democrat leadership NOT ONLY DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... but they actually supported it and encouraged it. Which is absolutely *wild* in my opinion. Has Rachael Maddow talked about ANTIFA and the "truly violent radical left?"

So I guess the answer to my question is YES... this is a documentary to explain away how the radical left does not represent the majority of the left, while at the same time trying to tell everyone that the radical right represents all of the right. The hypocrisy is just astounding...

Merry Christmas by the way!

I've scrolled through some reports that I turned up with the Google search function.

What is the price tag (so to speak) for all of the damage nationwide, during the "George Floyd" summer and fall of 2020, from rioting, arson, vandalism, looting, attacks on law enforcement personnel, vehicles and facilities and the like?

It doesn't come anywhere close to "a trillion dollars," as 82-T/A has described it. (While he was "At Work," presumably.)

The efforts to quantify it or "add it all up" have come up with about a $2 billion bottom line for all kinds of damages. Let's say that some of the damages were overlooked or weren't accounted for in these reports but only surfaced later, and bump it all the way up to $5 billion worth of "George Floyd-related" damages. You'd have to multiply $5 billion by 200 times over to get to $1 trillion.

These are some of the reports that I just scrolled through. For the sake of brevity, I will abbreviate my customary online media citation format.

"From building damage to police payouts, the costs of Floyd’s killing are piling up"
https://minnesotareformer.c...lling-are-piling-up/

"Fact check: Thousands of Black Lives Matter protesters were arrested in 2020"
https://www.usatoday.com/st...ted-2020/6816074001/

"How Much Damage Did the Summer 2020 Riots Really Cause?"
https://nationalinterest.or...-really-cause-202945

"How 2020 protests changed insurance forever"
https://www.weforum.org/age...d-insurance-forever/


And here's one for "good measure," which discusses how the U.S. GDP (Gross Domestic Product) has lost $ value because of discriminatory practices against African Americans over the years since 2000.

"Cost Of Racism: U.S. Economy Lost $16 Trillion Because Of Discrimination, Bank Says"
https://www.npr.org/section...rimination-bank-says

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It sounds to me like you're saying that, because it wasn't officially 1 trillion dollars, and only hundreds of billions ... it's not that big of a deal, even though your numbers absolutely do not count the lost income to the government via taxes, lost net worth of the small and medium-sized business owners etc., and the fact that many of those buildings will never be rebuilt. But you're also saying that ANTIFA was justified in everything that it did because of how black Americans lost wages (???) from 2000 through Obama and Biden's presidency to today. Interesting. What your connection here also does however, is show that you view BLM and ANTIFA as the same thing. I appreciate that honesty.
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It sounds to me like you're saying that, because it wasn't officially 1 trillion dollars, and only hundreds of billions ... it's not that big of a deal, even though your numbers absolutely do not count the lost income to the government via taxes, lost net worth of the small and medium-sized business owners etc., and the fact that many of those buildings will never be rebuilt. But you're also saying that ANTIFA was justified in everything that it did because of how black Americans lost wages (???) from 2000 through Obama and Biden's presidency to today. Interesting. What your connection here also does however, is show that you view BLM and ANTIFA as the same thing. I appreciate that honesty.


Hundreds of billions?

I see it widely being estimated at about $2 billion, and I said I would pad that to $5 billion "tops," for the sake of comparison. And then I said that would have to be multiplied by a factor of 200 to get into the "trillions" of dollars that you first came out with when you first brought this up in this thread.

If you can provide some substantiation or credible reporting that gets into the range of "hundreds of billions," I would think you have a point.

I would be impressed if you could show me a report that includes or discusses "lost income to the government via taxes, lost net worth of the small and medium-sized business owners etc., and the fact that many of those buildings will never be rebuilt," and then arrives at figures like "more than a trillion dollars" or "hundreds of billions of dollars."

I think you are just pulling these very large numbers out of your proverbial... posterior.

There's nothing in what I posted to say that I consider BLM and ANTIFA as "the same thing." I definitely do not consider that BLM and ANTIFA are "the same thing." Not even close to "the same thing." Sometimes they overlap. There were instances during the "George Floyd summer of 2020" when BLM and ANTIFA were at odds with one another. I remember that, from the reporting.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:There's nothing in what I posted to say that I consider BLM and ANTIFA as "the same thing."


In my post above, I say nothing about BLM, but talk about the ANTIFA riots and the destruction caused by them. Yet, you immediately link damages conversely to the ethereal damages caused by racism... (which is an absurdly faulty measure by any reasonable standards). Never the less, in your mind, you're conflating the two... which is not unreasonable since ANTIFA used BLM protests as a larger group to manipulate and provoke for their own benefit.

 
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And here's one for "good measure," which discusses how the U.S. GDP (Gross Domestic Product) has lost $ value because of discriminatory practices against African Americans over the years since 2000.

"Cost Of Racism: U.S. Economy Lost $16 Trillion Because Of Discrimination, Bank Says"
https://www.npr.org/section...rimination-bank-says
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There's nothing in what I posted to say that I consider BLM and ANTIFA as "the same thing." I definitely do not consider that BLM and ANTIFA are "the same thing." Not even close to "the same thing." Sometimes they overlap. There were instances during the "George Floyd summer of 2020" when BLM and ANTIFA were at odds with one another. I remember that, from the reporting.

Of course they are not the same thing, they are as different as Sprite and 7up, and just as transparent.

AntiFa and BLM are both Militant Left wing Communist terrorist groups. They are thinly veiled anti-Western insurgents, much like the illegitimate regime that currently occupies the US government.

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Of course they are not the same thing, they are as different as Sprite and 7up, and just as transparent.

AntiFa and BLM are both Militant Left wing Communist terrorist groups. They are thinly veiled anti-Western insurgents, much like the illegitimate regime that currently occupies the US government.



AMAZING 1+2=13 LOGIC

and the RUMP as a lying cheating tax dodging scum bag some how
does what for who how and why ?

terror groups are a rightwing thing
esp ones who are god bothered
so want to limit ideas and choices
tali-ban is anti education as is ISIS
guess who said the USA education system is screwed up beyond repair ?
so lets get Betsy to screw it up to the max then get rhonda to attack it
that the rightwing in action same ideals as THE TALI-BAN
exact same plan no just the direction and the fear are from the same root
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Leftist is succinct enough.



No it isn't.

I have a feeling a lot of people here are going to think I am a "leftist". But the truth is that I have problems with both sides (parties). And I think most of the problems come from the extremists in BOTH parties. And most of the posts I make in this forum are against right-wing extremists because there is an overwhelming majority of right wing people on this site.

If a left wing extremist claimed that we need to transition to a socialist/communist economy I will strongly oppose them. But the problem is that right wing extremists call every sort of government action "socialism".

If a left wing extremists says that transgender women should compete on womens athletic teams I will strongly oppose them. But the problem is that right-wing extremists refuse to even acknowledge that transgender women exist.

If a left wing extremists says there is nothing wrong with our border policy then I will strongly oppose them. But the problem is that rigth-wing extremists believe that EVERY immigrant is a disease carrying criminal that is somehow able to live off government welfare while also stealing jobs from hard-working US citizens.

And finally, what many people call "political debates" are actually about "culture" and have very little to do with actual government policies. People just choose a side based on culture and then believe anything the political pundits from their side tell them. New Yorkers and citizens of other "Sanctuary Cities" based their support of border policy on "anti-racism" instead of the logistics of feeding thousands of immigranst while they await hearings.

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The only reason that a "Wichita" posts this meme is because he thinks he should be awarded the keys to the city and feted at public expense—because he hasn't destroyed any art, stopped any traffic or trespassed in recent memory.

This is how to set a low bar of achievement for yourself... as low as it could possibly be set.

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... most of the posts I make in this forum are against right-wing extremists because there is an overwhelming majority of right wing people on this site.


Are you insinuating we are all extremists ? Name one. I want to guage your intelligence.

 
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... the problem is that right wing extremists call every sort of government action "socialism".


Being wrong is not boding well for a measure of intelligence.

 
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If a left wing extremists says that transgender women should compete on womens athletic teams I will strongly oppose them. But the problem is that right-wing extremists refuse to even acknowledge that transgender women exist.


What chromosone does a transgendered woman have ?

 
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... the problem is that rigth-wing extremists believe that EVERY immigrant is a disease carrying criminal that is somehow able to live off government welfare while also stealing jobs from hard-working US citizens.


Wrong ! There are so many issues with illegal aliens we are concerned with.

We welcome legal immigrants.

 
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And finally, what many people call "political debates" are actually about "culture" and have very little to do with actual government policies. People just choose a side based on culture and then believe anything the political pundits from their side tell them. New Yorkers and citizens of other "Sanctuary Cities" based their support of border policy on "anti-racism" instead of the logistics of feeding thousands of immigranst while they await hearings.


You are no psychologist.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:


The only reason that a "Wichita" posts this meme is because he thinks he should be awarded the keys to the city and feted at public expense—because he hasn't destroyed any art, stopped any traffic or trespassed in recent memory.

This is how to set a low bar of achievement for yourself... as low as it could possibly be set.


You are no psychologist either.
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You are no psychologist either.


Look where Wichita never directs his "gaze," and you instantly penetrate his phony-baloney facade of being relevant.

Example:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/000985-3.html#p106

Wichita = "tunnel vision."

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Originally posted by rinselberg:



The only reason that a "Wichita" posts this meme is because he thinks he should be awarded the keys to the city and feted at public expense—because he hasn't destroyed any art, stopped any traffic or trespassed in recent memory.

This is how to set a low bar of achievement for yourself... as low as it could possibly be set.




He's not wrong. People of the left persuasion are generally less happy than those on the right. By all measure, Democrats should be really happy right now. They have the White House, and the Senate... yet, they seem, even more unhappy now than when Trump was president.

The only thing I question is the fact that one of the crazies is holding a can of Yerba Mate. I'm not sure what that's about, or why it's associated with these people. I drink Yerba Mate from time to time... but my mom is Argentine, and my grandmother used to make it for me when I would come over for tea at 2:00 in the afternoon when I was younger.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

He's not wrong. People of the left persuasion are generally less happy than those on the right. By all measure, Democrats should be really happy right now. They have the White House, and the Senate... yet, they seem, even more unhappy now than when Trump was president.





Leftist's perpetual unhappiness begins with their poor mental health.


https://ifstudies.org/blog/...y-than-conservatives

https://www.frc.org/op-eds/...-liberals-so-unhappy

https://www.nytimes.com/202...ca-unhappy-poll.html

"...the trend of worsening mental health among young people, the subject of much discussion lately, is especially striking among younger liberals."

.

Going back to the title of this thread, Leftists with their attendant mental health problems, especially depression, makes a nihilistic world view inevitable.
That is obviously NOT a path toward maintaining or building a successful and prosperous civilization.

Leftists are an unhealthy parasitic burden on any society.

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These are sentences and phrases from the third and most impressive of the three articles that forum member randye just posted:
 
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Meanwhile conservatives claim greater contentment in their private lives—and then go out and vote for paranoid outsiders and burn-it-down populists.
 
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right-wing recklessness
 
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it isn’t surprising that conservative politics would often be a car-wreck, a flinging of ripe fruit against a wall, no matter how happy individual conservatives claim to be.

"How the Right Turned Radical and the Left Became Depressed"
Ross Douthat for the New York Times; March 29, 2023.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...ca-unhappy-poll.html

How was that op-ed in the New York Times set up, again?
 
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How the Right Turned Radical and the Left Became Depressed

Even the articles that randye puts on display here himself do not support the simple-minded and simplistic reductionism that randye (and Wichita) constantly espouse on this forum, in which everything that is flawed, misconceived, problematic, threatening, counterproductive, or anti-social, emanates exclusively from "the left."


Forum member randye... hoisted (yet again) by his own petard.

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How the Right Turned Radical and the Left Became Depressed


Respectfully Rinse, I'd like for you to explain in general what you consider to be "radical."

If we're looking at "Trump" specifically... Trump's ideology is nearly identical to that of Bill Clinton's administration back in the 1990s. In many cases, they enacted nearly identical policies... everything from trade (tariffs, subsidies, etc.), to deregulation, to securing the border and his views on illegal immigration, to the (desire) for laying off government employees. To a degree, you could even say they had the same sexual misconduct issues... though Trump had his indiscretions previously (as Clinton did with Jennifer Flowers).

Ideologically, the two administrations are nearly identical.


I have a hard time understanding how (which I assume you supported back in the 90s) Bill Clinton is not considered radical, but you consider Trump radical?
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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Even the articles that randye puts on display here himself do not support the simple-minded and simplistic reductionism that randye (and Wichita) constantly espouse on this forum, in which everything that is flawed, misconceived, problematic, threatening, counterproductive, or anti-social, emanates exclusively from "the left."

People who are constantly harping on "the left" in this general and abstract way, like randye and Wichita, are radically flawed in their thinking.

Even if there are more similarities between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump than "meet the eye," the things that randye, Wichita; et al say on this forum "impress me not."

This semi-endorsement of Bill Clinton, that "82-T/A [At Work]" has just expressed, kind of buttresses my argument here.

It's not as simple as the "Left is always bad, Right is always good" kind of talk that so completely characterizes randye, Wichita; et al.

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Originally posted by randye:
Leftist's perpetual unhappiness begins with their poor mental health.


https://ifstudies.org/blog/...y-than-conservatives

https://www.frc.org/op-eds/...-liberals-so-unhappy

https://www.nytimes.com/202...ca-unhappy-poll.html

"...the trend of worsening mental health among young people, the subject of much discussion lately, is especially striking among younger liberals."

.

Going back to the title of this thread, Leftists with their attendant mental health problems, especially depression, makes a nihilistic world view inevitable.
That is obviously NOT a path toward maintaining or building a successful and prosperous civilization.

Leftists are an unhealthy parasitic burden on any society.



RWNJ claim a divine right to rule and exploit others

but really they are the parasitic burden on every society
skimming the profit of the working men
without any production on their own

they are the takers with out any give back
the over paid managers lawyers preachers politicians judges the owner investors the exploiters
the people who ask other to take the risks while they reap the profits
the trump tax cheats regressives and the whole Gop dogma plus a made up god
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lets look at the poison posted by the hater randye

https://ifstudies.org/blog/...y-than-conservatives

who the false claim haters he links to

The Southern Poverty Law Center has listed FRI as an anti-gay hate group[4] because of Cameron's discredited research[8][9] and claims about LGBT people. According to the SPLC, Cameron's "continued demonization of LGBT people and the shoddy and suspect research methods he uses to advance his claims have earned his Family Research Institute (FRI) a place on the SPLC's anti-LGBT hate group list."[10]

FRI continues to publish "pseudoscientific studies" as of 2019 that, Balleck says, "remain central to anti-LGBT groups on the extreme right of the political spectrum."[12] Organizations that cite FRI's pseudoscientific research include the American Family Association, Coral Ridge Ministries, Concerned Women for America, Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, the Family Research Council. The Illinois Family Institute has also cited FRI's research, but no longer does.[11][23]


https://www.frc.org/op-eds/...-liberals-so-unhappy
next is
The Family Research Council (FRC) is an American evangelical activist group and think-tank with an affiliated lobbying organization. FRC promotes what it considers to be family values.[2] It opposes and lobbies against: access to pornography, embryonic stem-cell research, abortion, divorce, and LGBT rights—such as anti-discrimination laws, same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, and LGBT adoption.[3] The FRC has been criticized by media sources and professional organizations such as the American Sociological Association for using "anti-gay pseudoscience" to falsely conflate homosexuality and pedophilia, and falsely to claim that the children of same-sex parents suffer from more mental health problems.

or an other far right hate site
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Respectfully Rinse, I'd like for you to explain in general what you consider to be "radical."

If we're looking at "Trump" specifically... Trump's ideology is nearly identical to that of Bill Clinton's administration back in the 1990s. In many cases, they enacted nearly identical policies... everything from trade (tariffs, subsidies, etc.), to deregulation, to securing the border and his views on illegal immigration, to the (desire) for laying off government employees. To a degree, you could even say they had the same sexual misconduct issues... though Trump had his indiscretions previously (as Clinton did with Jennifer Flowers).

Ideologically, the two administrations are nearly identical.


I have a hard time understanding how (which I assume you supported back in the 90s) Bill Clinton is not considered radical, but you consider Trump radical?


the ideas the right hated bill for were their own but kinder and gentler
with out the nut-job spin the rightwing loves
and a perverse hope of some limited trickle down [never really happened thanks to the evil BuSh2 and his nut-con's disaster ]
who blew 2 wars and the hopes of the conned in to the 2008 crash

the rump is an off the wall nut retarded revisionist with dog whistles for the real nut-alt-right KKK skin heads
who has the most deplorable deviants as cult supporters


exceot the rump went full nut-con retard paid down no debt and screwed up every thing with very evil nut-con people like
What Has Betsy DeVos Done?
PSEA
https://www.psea.org › betsy-devos-timeline
She has promoted the privatization of public schools through vouchers, called for deep cuts to federal funding, rolled back protections for vulnerable children, screwed ed to the nut conned MAX
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