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Nihilism vs Civilization by olejoedad
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An essay by VDH

https://www.realclearpoliti...stroyers_150204.html

There are a few people here that won't comprehend this......
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That is a good, succinct article.
 
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Nihilism is the religion of the Left. Anarchy is now at the core of the new Democratic Party.

The only thing I would change is the second sentence above. Feudalism is at the core. Anarchists are the rank and file, the future serfs.

>>--> edit: a bit of explanation.

The Democratic Party is a sham. It is lead by those who wish to become feudal lords. They appeal to anarchists, knowing that in the end, anarchy will fail. We already see the beginnings.

The "great unwashed" will be in dire need of leadership and the aristocracy will be more than willing to allow them to "tend the fields" in exchange for protection and sustenance.

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Never really understood the logic behind the claim that the left wants to destroy the country.

What does the left have to gain from destroying the country. Why would they work so hard and spend so much money on policies that would destroy them?

Personally I don't think either side has all the answers. If they did then they would win all the elections and control the country. But instead it just swings back and forth between the two parties with neither ever capable of maintain control.

And what people call "political" discussions are actually about "culture" differences instead of political policies.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

That is a good, succinct article.
The only thing I would change is the second sentence above. Feudalism is at the core. Anarchists are the rank and file, the future serfs.

>>--> edit: a bit of explanation.

The Democratic Party is a sham. It is lead by those who wish to become feudal lords. They appeal to anarchists, knowing that in the end, anarchy will fail. We already see the beginnings.

The "great unwashed" will be in dire need of leadership and the aristocracy will be more than willing to allow them to "tend the fields" in exchange for protection and sustenance.




If the entire system collapses, then how do the elite generate income and wealth? Who pays for the upkeep and control of the masses? The masses don't seem very docile or happy with the current situation. Why would they be content when things get worse?

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Good morning, Fred.
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Good morning, Fred.


X2

 
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Never really understood the logic behind the claim that the left wants to destroy the country.

What does the left have to gain from destroying the country. Why would they work so hard and spend so much money on policies that would destroy them?


Color me not surprised.

The left wants a new country. In their making. What policies are you talking about ?
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and the rump class wants

a tax free pass like the great orange scam has

while moving the taxes on to the workers with the flat tax scam

and insure an under class of cheap illegal labor with a immigration crisis scam


note common scam theme that is the Gop ideal
you pay they play just like the rump tax rates

while packed courts make the nut-con religion the laws

and deporables run the government
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Do you know the difference between excrement and wax?

Methinks not.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Do you know the difference between excrement and wax?

Methinks not.


bees produce both

greed threatens the bees
by widespread chemical use on crops

no one harvests bee poop
but major unregulated chemical use
means less honey and wax
and less bees
Monsanto buys laws from the Gop
you fund the Gop
bees die
but you did not kill them or did you ?
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What policies are you talking about ?



The ones discussed in this

https://www.realclearpoliti...stroyers_150204.html

The left's biggest screw up is immigration. They got away with it when the damage was just around the border, but now that it is getting spread around more they are screwed. But I still don't see it as any attempt to destroy civilization. They just want cheap labor.


And I don't get the "Good morning, Fred" joke. I am kind of new here.

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And I don't get the "Good morning, Fred" joke. I am kind of new here.


There was a now departed forum member named fredtoast who stood up to the echo chamber here, and they still haven't gotten over the humiliation. So because they don't believe there can be anyone else with the audacity to question the party line here (their party line), they figure anyone new here who speaks for themself must be "fred" returning under a new moniker. If you were trumpeting Trump, they wouldn't have had any issue with you. That's basically the situation in a nutshell.
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bees produce both

greed threatens the bees
by widespread chemical use on crops

no one harvests bee poop
but major unregulated chemical use
means less honey and wax
and less bees
Monsanto buys laws from the Gop
you fund the Gop
bees die
but you did not kill them or did you ?


So you don't know the difference between sh!t and Shine-ola.....

Thanks for playing.
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Never really understood the logic behind the claim that the left wants to destroy the country.

What does the left have to gain from destroying the country. Why would they work so hard and spend so much money on policies that would destroy them?

And what people call "political" discussions are actually about "culture" differences instead of political policies.


I dont think the left knows they want to and are destroying it. (Other than not caring enough about the USA) Their ideas just do it. Many think they are doing good.

Totally agree it shouldnt be called politics. It seems taken out of context, or "politics" are labels shoved into contexts they dont belong. Its kind of a cop out used to say I dont want to talk about that. In the end we dont talk about what is important, because we've been told and trained thats political and a no no. Etc

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So you don't know the difference between sh!t and Shine-ola.....

Thanks for playing.


I know what you are slinging god bothered BS
fairy tales of fear about man made gods

15 or 20 k dead many more wounded last few months
in the so called holy land
just to prove your skydaddy sucks at real estate development
loves poor leadership with kill them all plans on both sides

and never has ever made places better to live in
just an other cause to kill other people for
but never aids understanding or cooperation
or makes places better for the citizens

so why put up with the religions of any kind
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The left's biggest screw up is immigration. They got away with it when the damage was just around the border, but now that it is getting spread around more they are screwed. But I still don't see it as any attempt to destroy civilization. They just want cheap labor.



Short sightedness, and not seeing past the end of their own nose, not thinking things through, not learning from the past, and failing to heed good principles is a large part of the the flaws of the left.
That said, when we talk about wanting to fundamentally change or destroy....useful idiots are in every group. Some are just following, some cling to one idea and are willing to overlook a lot of things if they think the group's system will get them there.
Besides the useful idiots there are string pullers, planners and agenda pushers.
Thinking for ones self is key.
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Short sightedness, and not seeing past the end of their own nose, not thinking things through, not learning from the past, and failing to heed good principles is a large part of the the flaws of the left.
That said, when we talk about wanting to fundamentally change or destroy....useful idiots are in every group. Some are just following, some cling to one idea and are willing to overlook a lot of things if they think the group's system will get them there.
Besides the useful idiots there are string pullers, planners and agenda pushers.
Thinking for ones self is key.


OK
but the rightwing is so sure they know the only way
and we get NIXON RAYGUN BuSh2 and the RUMP WHO SCREWED UP huge with huge debts
WHO BROKE THE COUNTRY and our middle class with gush UP no trickle down tax laws
AND NOW MARCH TO THE BEAT OF THE BRO'S ''k'' AND FOX

YOUR WORSHIP OF STRONG MEN LIKE PUTIN IS DISGUSTING
your support for the treason of the traitor RUMP DEPLORABLE
THE 1-6 CRIMES NEVER DENOUNCED BUT PRAISED
WINDOW CHIC A HERO AND THE COP A CRIMINAL IN THE rwnj view

AND THE COURTS AND LAWS YOU WANT ARE VERY ISIS OR TALI-BAN LIKE

EVIL IS IN ALL RELIGIONS JUST WAITING AND WATCHING

Gop program is not enlightenment it is a return to the DARK AGES OF 500 TO 1500ace CHURCH RULE
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The immigration fiasco, the open border, are part of the Cloward/Piven strategy, a Leftist roadmap to the destruction of America.
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The dem/left thinks it knows how to run your life better than you….how you should spend your money…etc
Ray….you are a sad bitter man….very rarely read your posts because it the same stuff over and over.
Neither side knows better than the other if you can’t find ANY truth in the Bible , you are truly lost. Where do you think morality comes from ? The magic dust you ingest ? You just magically know the difference from right or wrong ? Man is bad…none of us are good…..so we need a manual….its called the Bible .
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Originally posted by PhatMax:

The dem/left thinks it knows how to run your life better than you….how you should spend your money…etc
Ray….you are a sad bitter man….very rarely read your posts because it the same stuff over and over.
Neither side knows better than the other if you can’t find ANY truth in the Bible , you are truly lost. Where do you think morality comes from ? The magic dust you ingest ? You just magically know the difference from right or wrong ? Man is bad…none of us are good…..so we need a manual….its called the Bible .

Rayb believes that there is no power higher than rayb. He is the sole arbiter of all that is righteous.
If that were true, it would explain why the world is so screwed up.
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The dem/left thinks it knows how to run your life better than you….how you should spend your money…etc
Ray….you are a sad bitter man….very rarely read your posts because it the same stuff over and over.
Neither side knows better than the other if you can’t find ANY truth in the Bible , you are truly lost. Where do you think morality comes from ? The magic dust you ingest ? You just magically know the difference from right or wrong ? Man is bad…none of us are good…..so we need a manual….its called the Bible .


so if we follow your claimed manual EXACTLY

how much are 13 year old daughters worth ?

the buybull said they are adults and salable only to others who also believe
but not to unbelievers outside the cult

or if the guy next door cuts his grass on a sunday
do I have to kill him myself ?

if the kid gets drunk and disrespectful
is stoning the only buybull approved result ?

or the rape victim who did not cry out in a modern suburban house
is she to be stoned just like a city dweller ?

what does it say about out of state abortions ?

allowing witches to live ?

morals are based on needs of the people
not the BS god rules of goat herders about 2500 years ago
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Rayb believes that there is no power higher than rayb. He is the sole arbiter of all that is righteous.
If that were true, it would explain why the world is so screwed up.


I believe you have no clue

and believers are the problem never any solution to anything at all

I have no way to arbitrate anything
just know there is no god or ghosts or devils or hoodoo's
but lots of people who believe some BS none can prove any of
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so if we follow your claimed manual EXACTLY

how much are 13 year old daughters worth ?

the buybull said they are adults and salable only to others who also believe
but not to unbelievers outside the cult

or if the guy next door cuts his grass on a sunday
do I have to kill him myself ?

if the kid gets drunk and disrespectful
is stoning the only buybull approved result ?

or the rape victim who did not cry out in a modern suburban house
is she to be stoned just like a city dweller ?

what does it say about out of state abortions ?

allowing witches to live ?

morals are based on needs of the people
not the BS god rules of goat herders about 2500 years ago


Goes to show you never read the Bible….if you had you’d have found out Jesus came to….pretty much negate the Old Testament.
Just try to read the New Testament…..hint the text that is written in red are words directly from him.
I dont believe anybody here hates you…that I can see , but you’re so narrow minded there is no room in your mind for anything but hate. It shows by your vocabulary.

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Goes to show you never read the Bible….if you had you’d have found out Jesus came to….pretty much negate the Old Testament.
Just try to read the New Testament…..hint the text that is written in red are words directly from him.
I do y believe anybody here hates you…that I can see , but you’re so narrow minded there is no room in your mind for anything but hate. It shows by your vocabulary.


they all are spelled out answered in the book
that allows slaves to be traded but never sons
but sees even in the new revised post JC unknown authors versions
without any dates or places really known
no moral problem with people being slaves or owning them

and a moral code that allowed hitler types FORGIVENESS
IF THEY FOLLOW THE STEPS AT A MOMENT PRIOR TO DEATH
AND ASK THE RIGHT WAY no matter what or how they lived as none of that matters
JUST ask the correct way but only before death
or then eternal fire that MORAL SYSTEM ????????????

SORRY CAN'T SEE JUSTICE OR TRUTH THERE
JUST A KIDS GAME
SAY THE SPELL OR ELSE

so a raped murder victim can meet their killer in heaven
if prior to death he ask for the forgiveness in the approved way
AND YOU CLAIM MORALS ARE SOME HOW IMPORTANT ?

GEE NO THANKS

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and a moral code that allowed hitler types FORGIVENESS


All it takes is a couple of (non-football) Hail Marys and all is well again. Interesting moral system.

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Rayb believes that there is no power higher than rayb. He is the sole arbiter of all that is righteous.
If that were true, it would explain why the world is so screwed up.



I agree with you 100% Willie.

No way the world would be this screwed up if a loving all-powerful god was running things.

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they all are spelled out answered in the book
that allows slaves to be traded but never sons
but sees even in the new revised post JC unknown authors versions
without any dates or places really known
no moral problem with people being slaves or owning them

and a moral code that allowed hitler types FORGIVENESS
IF THEY FOLLOW THE STEPS AT A MOMENT PRIOR TO DEATH
AND ASK THE RIGHT WAY no matter what or how they lived as none of that matters
JUST ask the correct way but only before death
or then eternal fire that MORAL SYSTEM ????????????

SORRY CAN'T SEE JUSTICE OR TRUTH THERE
JUST A KIDS GAME
SAY THE SPELL OR ELSE

so a raped murder victim can meet their killer in heaven
if prior to death he ask for the forgiveness in the approved way
AND YOU CLAIM MORALS ARE SOME HOW IMPORTANT ?

GEE NO THANKS



Careful Ray. I don't think you really want to live in a world with no forgiveness.

None of us are perfect. Forgiveness is key to maintaining civilization.

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(snip)

morals are based on needs of the people

(snip)



Seriously?

Where did that philosophy come from?

The church of" if it feels good do it"?
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I think the heat in Miami has cooked ray’s Brian…





So, ummm... whose "Brian" has been cooked?
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So, ummm... whose "Brian" has been cooked?

Thanks for the catch Patrick…..I don’t want to confuse ray any more than he is..
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I agree with you 100% Willie.

No way the world would be this screwed up if a loving all-powerful god was running things.



So you wish that the omnipotent God had NOT given man free will and you don't understand why he did.

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The model where "god" demands order and subservience is called "sharia". That is the path on the left.
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You can always be a leftist Democrat degenerate and film gay butt sex in the Senate conference room.


For your viewing pleasure, no doubt.

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You can always be a leftist Democrat degenerate and film gay butt sex in the Senate conference room.

Hickenlooper takes it in the pooper, while Sasse gets one in the ass?

(I'm just thinking bipartisan here.)


The Queer Mountain Lion thinking "What has this world come to..."
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So you wish that the omnipotent God had NOT given man free will and you don't understand why he did.




If a god is omnipotent then he/she can't give man free will.

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Can God make a rock so big that even he can't move it?
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Can God make a rock so big that even he can't move it?


NONEXISTENT IMAGINARY man made CREATIONS CAN NOT MOVE ANY MATERIAL OBJECT

even a little tiny one in the real world

now in a imaginary made up world sure

but we live in the real world

set up an experiment and invite your favorite imaginary god angel cherub or the other side if you wish or can
to move one pound one foot or metric what ever in a lab

want to bet on it ?
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You can always be a leftist Democrat degenerate and film gay butt sex in the Senate conference room.

That is "uhlanstan-esque."

"Wichita" has become synonymous on this forum with memes and cartoons about "groomers," and hallucinatory remarks about "purple-haired, gauged-earlobe, overweight, gaudily tattooed, transgender school teachers" and the like.

He's tried to pitch this as if he's standing up against transgressions and harms inflicted upon society by LGBTQs who are malicious and out of line, and enabled by "The Left," which in his simple-minded and feeble-minded reductionism is perfectly interchangeable with "Democrats."

Now he reveals it for what it truly is: the primal scream of someone, desperate to compensate for his lack of self-esteem, who is constantly creating stage props of imaginary people ("Biden brats") that he fancies himself as towering above in intellect and morality.


Scroll back a short ways until you see this image again. It's a "must see."
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