Patrick asks for a link ….link is posted…”I’m not reading that !”…..sheesh
Yes, I asked for a link... not a dozen links which may or may not even include the link that was requested... but then, that's probably why it was presented in such a ridiculous manner.
"News Flash... it's individuals from every walk of life who commit crimes of this nature. No group is totally innocent, and no group is completely to blame."
This is LITERALLY the "everyone is bad" argument. I cannot understand how you're unable to see this. I'm hoping this is just a win/lose argument for points thing with you... because if it is, then I'll stop. But if you actually are unable to see that you used the "everyone is bad" argument... then, well... what can I say Patrick... I don't want to be a jerk but my first thought is a little bit delusional.
I don't think you understand what the term "literally" means.
He literally said that no "group" is totally innocent.
I believe he is 100% correct, I don't try to claim that one side is 100% innocent. People who do that are extremists. And in my view the problem in this country right now is not due to either party. It is with the extremists in both parties. Neither side is perfect. Both sides are being damaged by the extremists in their own ranks.
If you disagree then tell us what group is totally innocent.
and the RUMP as a lying cheating tax dodging scum bag some how does what for who how and why ?
terror groups are a rightwing thing esp ones who are god bothered so want to limit ideas and choices tali-ban is anti education as is ISIS guess who said the USA education system is screwed up beyond repair ? so lets get Betsy to screw it up to the max then get rhonda to attack it that the rightwing in action same ideals as THE TALI-BAN exact same plan no just the direction and the fear are from the same root god bothered ''
the rightwing fears education about many things rhonda satan has lists of ban books they fear sex ed or any religious history
but we must make laws based not on facts but only on religious fears bias or fairytales
The case that was covered up in loudoun Co VA. The school board said IT NEVER HAPPENED and they had no record of any such event is being sued by the Family. The purp was moved to another school and recommitted. This happened in 2021 so it is easy to look up. The superintendent was charged for the cover up. https://www.washingtonpost....ssault-stone-bridge/
Nearly everyone on the planet is liberal on some topics, and conservative on other topics.
And both sides want to limit free speech. It is always okay when their side does it because it is "justified". So-called "political" discussions about free speech are actually about cultural differences.
Originally posted by BingB: And both sides want to limit free speech. It is always okay when their side does it because it is "justified". So-called "political" discussions about free speech are actually about cultural differences.
Curious, could you cite some examples from both sides of the political aisle?
The case that was covered up in loudoun Co VA. The school board said IT NEVER HAPPENED and they had no record of any such event is being sued by the Family. The purp was moved to another school and recommitted. This happened in 2021 so it is easy to look up. The superintendent was charged for the cover up. https://www.washingtonpost....ssault-stone-bridge/
That is a nasty case. The girl was raped, and that was terrible. What made it even worse was that the right-wing media twisted the facts to fit their purpose and the girls story went nationwide. At the time of the rape there was no school policy allowing biological males access to the womens' restrooms just by wearing a skirt. Also the victim was in an ongoing consensual sexual relationship with the perpetrator. So she was a victim of "relationship violence/rape" that had nothing to do with a predator taking advantage of a school policy to find victims.
Transgender women/girls should not be allowed in womens/girls locker rooms or public showers. But public restrooms are a different story. Generally no one sees sexual organs in a public restroom. More women would be freaked out by transgender men using their restrooms than transgender women who they never recognize as biological men.
Also the victim was in an ongoing consensual sexual relationship with the perpetrator. So she was a victim of "relationship violence/rape" that had nothing to do with a predator taking advantage of a school policy to find victims. Post more info. He also raped again in a second school. Lived up there for a while so I have friends in the area.
I don't think you understand what the term "literally" means.
He literally said that no "group" is totally innocent.
I believe he is 100% correct, I don't try to claim that one side is 100% innocent. People who do that are extremists. And in my view the problem in this country right now is not due to either party. It is with the extremists in both parties. Neither side is perfect. Both sides are being damaged by the extremists in their own ranks.
If you disagree then tell us what group is totally innocent.
I don't think you understand what the term "sockpuppet" means.
Is it now "Bing Toast"?
It was only a matter of time until your peculiar syntax and phraseology made you expose yourself.
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Some forum members overestimate themselves, imagining that they are linguistic "sleuths" with an uncommon ability to ferret out online impersonators.
I doubt that "BingB" is an online reincarnation of "fredtoast."
BingB is being trolled because of the ideas and opinions that he is expressing.
There's nothing wrong or objectionable about the way that BingB is expressing himself.
This is the second time someone has claimed that I am Fredtoast. I understand that guys like me who don't have a real party affiliation are rare on message boards, but there are more than you think. We are rare on message boards because most people who care enough about politics to join a debate forum are the ones whose identities are defined by their political affiliation. The reason they are passionate about politics is that they are defending their culture instead of just their political position.
People like me who swing back and forth based on the issue may be rare on message boards, but we are not as rare in the general population. It is just that people without a party affiliation generally do not care enough about politics to join a debate forum. Party affiliation does not define them.
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He may have lived on a commune, but Townshend was no hippie; in fact, there are rumours that he belted Abbie Hoffman with his guitar after the activist tried to commandeer his microphone during The Who’s Woodstock performance, which also influenced the song. “I wrote ‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’ as a reaction to all that – ‘Leave me out of it: I don’t think you lot would be any better than the other lot!'” he explained to Creem in 1982. “All those hippies wandering about thinking the world was going to be different from that day. As a cynical English arsehole, I walked through it all and felt like spitting on the lot of them, and shaking them and trying to make them realise that nothing had changed and nothing was going to change.”
So few people actually understand the youth subculture of the sixties. The humorous adage "If you remember the sixties, you weren't there", applies to a few on here, but not all of us.
Pete a Townsend also wrote 'Quadrophenia', in my mind one of the best compositions of the 20th century.
They turned me off right from the start, with the whole guitar smashing thing, so I never really got into them. I remember thinking, "Damn, I could have used that!" But yeah, their music features prominently in the soundtrack of my youth.
People like me who swing back and forth based on the issue may be rare on message boards, but we are not as rare in the general population. It is just that people without a party affiliation generally do not care enough about politics to join a debate forum. Party affiliation does not define them.
"fredtoast" also says that he is "extraordinary and special".
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I doubt that "BingB" is the same person as "fredtoast."
BIngB's temperament strikes me as a little "cooler" and "calmer," compared to fredtoast.
BIngB's texts seems to be more consistently phrased and organized, from one message to another, compared to fredtoast.
I think the linguistic similarities, to the extent that they are perceptible, arise from the factors that BingB and fredtoast have in common, in terms of how they perceive and think about the various topics that arise in the discussions in this Politics (& Religion) bailiwick (so to speak) of the larger Pennock's online forum.
I wonder what fortunate factor explains the perceptible "downsizing" of forum member randye's visibility here, which began some time ago now.
Is this the work of some minor deity? Could I make some offering or pay some homage to this deity to guarantee the continuation of this happy circumstance?
I guess I'd have to be made privy to the deity's name...
Originally posted by randye: "fredtoast" also says that he is "extraordinary and special".
Actually I just said that I was "not rare" in the general population. In fact I would say that more people are centrist like me than like the political extremist that generally populate political forums. So if Fredtoast said he was "extraordinary and special" he is different from me.
What exactly did this Fredtoast guy do to all of you? What happened to him? Did he lose a bet or did he do something to get banned?
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Originally posted by Doug85GT: LOL. Fredtoast rerolled. What a pathetic loser.
So you went to all the trouble of logging in and setting up to say something in this thread, and that's all you have to say?
That's a disappointment.
What if BingB actually is the same person as "fredtoast"..? Maybe Cliff Pennock has decided to greenlight him for posting again, but with a new screen name. Like one of those witness protection programs where someone or some family continues their life in a new place and using a new name.
"Can you say it is not so?"
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So you went to all the trouble of logging in and setting up to say something in this thread, and that's all you have to say?
That's a disappointment.
What if BingB actually is the same person as "fredtoast"..? Maybe Cliff Pennock has decided to greenlight him for posting again, but with a new screen name. Like one of those witness protection programs where someone or some family continues their life in a new place and using a new name.
"Can you say it is not so?"
Everybody, including you, knows that bing is the third (at least) incarnation of toast, just as furgal was keel and sourmash was mentalfloss. You, and a few others support it just as you support Biden, because it benefits your personal agenda.
