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White House Protest / Yemen Bombing... by 82-T/A [At Work]
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https://rumble.com/v46jyaf-...outhis-in-yemen.html

TL;DR: Biden / UK are bombing the Houthis rebels in Yemen (who are sponsored by Iran, and responsible for attacking our cargo ships). I think we all agree this is a good idea, so not making a point there. But go ahead and skip to the 1:38 point in the video to look at the crowd protesting in front of the White House.

Two things I want you guys to see:
1 – Note all of the “Hands off Yemen” signs, this is important for point #2.
2 – Once again… with the exception of the speaker who’s inciting the protest, why is every single other person there a college aged white kid?


I’m asking seriously… how do we fix this? Why are young people so ****ing retarded? … especially the young white kids? What’s happening that they immediately support whatever outlandish anti-American thing they can possibly find?
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

https://rumble.com/v46jyaf-...outhis-in-yemen.html

TL;DR: Biden / UK are bombing the Houthis rebels in Yemen (who are sponsored by Iran, and responsible for attacking our cargo ships). I think we all agree this is a good idea, so not making a point there. But go ahead and skip to the 1:38 point in the video to look at the crowd protesting in front of the White House.

Two things I want you guys to see:
1 – Note all of the “Hands off Yemen” signs, this is important for point #2.
2 – Once again… with the exception of the speaker who’s inciting the protest, why is every single other person there a college aged white kid?


I’m asking seriously… how do we fix this? Why are young people so ****ing retarded? … especially the young white kids? What’s happening that they immediately support whatever outlandish anti-American thing they can possibly find?

Now, those sure are some nice signs. How long do you figure it took to print and distribute these signs? How many hours between the bombing and the protest? Bueller?...Bueller?
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Put my tax dollars to good use. 1 way ticket to Yemen on a Boing 737 MAX 9 for all that were there!
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

https://rumble...n-yemen.html

TL;DR: Biden / UK are bombing the Houthis rebels in Yemen (who are sponsored by Iran, and responsible for attacking our cargo ships). I think we all agree this is a good idea, so not making a point there. But go ahead and skip to the 1:38 point in the video to look at the crowd protesting in front of the White House.

Two things I want you guys to see:
1 – Note all of the “Hands off Yemen” signs, this is important for point #2.
2 – Once again… with the exception of the speaker who’s inciting the protest, why is every single other person there a college aged white kid?

I’m asking seriously… how do we fix this? Why are young people so ****ing retarded? … especially the young white kids? What’s happening that they immediately support whatever outlandish anti-American thing they can possibly find?

That video doesn't provide a wide angle view of the "Hands Off Yemen" protest. I don't think it could have been more than 100 protesters, if that many. It wasn't in the A-block of MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell" reports, when they reported on the airstrikes. A few of the protestors were obviously in their 30s, or their 40s, 50s, or maybe just past 60 candles on the proverbial birthday cake. So not just "college-aged."

Think of all the other young, white, college-aged kids who could just as easily have made there way to that protest—but didn't.

It seems like the ball is now in the Houthis' (and Tehran's) court, so to speak. Will the Houthis stand down, or will they try to back up their blustering talk of hitting back for these airstrikes?

At this same moment, Secretary of State Blinken has been trying to get Netanyahu to cozy up to the idea of an independent Palestinian nation, after a transition period which would include the Saudis and the other "deep pockets" Arab nations like the UAE, Qatar and Bahrain(?) funding a major reconstruction of Gaza, and full diplomatic relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf Arab (or Arab Gulf) nations.


"Take the road less traveled, with Gulf"


The Sultan of Brunei. I was trying to think of that earlier. They should put some serious money into the reconstruction of Gaza.

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Put my tax dollars to good use. 1 way ticket to Yemen on a Boing 737 MAX 9 for all that were there!


Just make sure it's short on fuel to make it's destination.......
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This is not the purpose of the U.S. Army, or anyone in the armed forces. If this guy didn't have special protections, he'd be kicked out in a second for failing his physical fitness test. No one overweight like that is allowed in the U.S. Military unless they have very unique skills that the military is willing to overlook their fitness level... like crypto or offensive cyber.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
This is not the purpose of the U.S. Army, or anyone in the armed forces. If this guy didn't have special protections, he'd be kicked out in a second for failing his physical fitness test. No one overweight like that is allowed in the U.S. Military unless they have very unique skills that the military is willing to overlook their fitness level... like crypto or offensive cyber.


Say "hello" to Major Rachel Jones, who when profiled in June of last year, had the title of U.S. Army Sustainment Command, Cyber Division Chief.

"Living authentically saves Soldier’s life"
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Everyone knows who's pulling the strings, over there.
Personally, I think the US and its allies need to go straight to the "head of the snake".
THAT would send a hell of a message.

We'll be there eventually, anyway.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Say "hello" to Major Rachel Jones, who when profiled in June of last year, had the title of U.S. Army Sustainment Command, Cyber Division Chief.

"Living authentically saves Soldier’s life"
Sarah Patterson for ASC Public Affairs; June 22, 2023.
https://www.army.mil/articl..._saves_soldiers_life



Thanks for the link. Let me know if you want me to break this down for you (I can do so in significant depth). What he is... basically... is a supervisor for a contract under an office that is about 15 layers down under a Logistics Command. To be quite frank, he doesn't actually do anything except manage accreditation of contract work. It explains a lot to me, honestly. There's far more amazing people who are "just" gay that are in very serious and important roles in the military and civilian service... who much better deserve the spotlight, but they don't get any of the presence of this guy, because he's "trans."

I don't want to trash this guy's position, because there are literally thousands of people in a similar role / position as his... (essentially, a branch chief of a sub group of a sub office under a directorate, under a command, etc., etc.,).

But I've seen this guy being brought up many times before on dozens of sites... and for the sake of this discussion, he's not in a very important position. He likely has only a basic clearance, and manages a very specific portion of IT for ARMY logistics. The "Cyber Security" aspect of it is done by a whole other group... no real reason to get into that. He basically manages a contract.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Thanks for the link. Let me know if you want me to break this down for you (I can do so in significant depth). What he is... basically... is a supervisor for a contract under an office that is about 15 layers down under a Logistics Command. To be quite frank, he doesn't actually do anything except manage accreditation of contract work. It explains a lot to me, honestly. There's far more amazing people who are "just" gay that are in very serious and important roles in the military and civilian service... who much better deserve the spotlight, but they don't get any of the presence of this guy, because he's "trans."

I don't want to trash this guy's position, because there are literally thousands of people in a similar role / position as his... (essentially, a branch chief of a sub group of a sub office under a directorate, under a command, etc., etc.,).

But I've seen this guy being brought up many times before on dozens of sites... and for the sake of this discussion, he's not in a very important position. He likely has only a basic clearance, and manages a very specific portion of IT for ARMY logistics. The "Cyber Security" aspect of it is done by a whole other group... no real reason to get into that. He basically manages a contract.



To put a finer point on it, there were just slightly over 16 THOUSAND people with the rank of Major in the U.S. Army in 2023.

That mentally ill cross-dresser only stands out from the herd because it's a freak, which of course attracts the media and Leftoids.

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For every one media photo or profile of the aforementioned Army Major Rachel Jones, there must be at least 10 stupid memes or cartoons on social media, of the same hackneyed variety that Wichita likes to post.

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That mentally ill cross-dresser only stands out from the herd because it's a freak, which of course attracts the media and Leftoids.


Apparently "it" attracted Wichita as well... not that there's anything wrong with that.

 
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

For every one media photo or profile of the aforementioned Army Major Rachel Jones, there must be at least 10 stupid memes or cartoons on social media, of the same hackneyed variety that Wichita likes to post.



Let me just lay this all out... I'm going to tell you why (in as clearest terms as I can) most people do not support this (the "trans" movement).

I fully acknowledge that I think people like you, Patrick, Fred, whomever... are all doing what they think is right. I think you truly believe you're supporting something good. As I tell my daughter, treat others as you would want to be treated. So I always treat people like this the way they want to be treated. To a degree, it does nothing for me or for them for me to tell them they're living life wrong.

But here's the problem... the goals of the Democrat party, and those who support a lot of this publicly, are not doing it because they believe in doing good. For them, it's a battle for power, and this is but one of many different ways to acquire that power... through manipulation. For these individuals, both the supporters and people like this Maj, are pawns. The "leaders" gain power by eliminating speech, and controlling a population through feigned support amongst those with common grievances. You build a coalition of the willing (if you will, to reuse an old Bush Iraq-war term), and pit them against your biggest threat to power. This is but one of many grievance groups... each with their own support group and means for manipulation.

At the same time though, that power comes with a cost... and that's our youth. Whatever the reason, mental illness is exceptionally high. It should be a shock to no one that mental illness is exceptionally higher on the Democrat party. We've discussed this ad-nauseam, it's not a matter of whether or not it's true... but "WHY" it's true. The Democrat party attracts and "normalizes" behavior that is mentally unsound. See above as to "why."

You have kids all of the world who are being exposed to multiple pressures... same as Millennials who feel they've failed because they don't have the same life as that Millennial couple on House Hunters who are looking to buy that 1.4 million dollar home because their $700k / 1800 square foot home is too small. Kids today are exposed constantly to negative narratives through TikTok, and even amongst their peers. Kids who would normally be doing weird things anyway like in any generation (whether it's greasers in the 50s, or goths in the 90s, or eco kids in the 2000s), they're turning to sexual deviancy as their go-to "clique." It wouldn't be so bad if it was just a bunch of kids who died their hair weird, used adult terms like polyamorous, and decided to change their pronouns... and then by the time they're in their mid 20s, they start to get normal again. No... *this* ideology, like what you're seeing above with that Maj, is having a permanent and irrevocable change to kids lives... whether it's simply just a wasted youth, to something much more severe like having surgeries.

This Maj in the picture above... this isn't your "normal" trans person who suffers from gender dysphoria and just wants to be viewed as a female. This is someone who's screaming for attention, and wants to feel vindicated for their own perceived injustices. This isn't a Rosa parks, this is a Cathy Griffith at best, and possibly would have been a potential Columbine Shooter at worst.


Don't get me wrong... Republicans are just as screwed up. There's a reason why so many big business / donor Republicans don't want Trump to run, and didn't want him to run before either. They love impoverished cheap labor. The more illegal aliens the better. They don't care if a bunch of "them" die in a corn shucking machine, or a fertilizer plant explosion... they're only concerned with their bottom line. To use Patrick's Go-To... "there's bad on both sides." And it's certainly true in this case... so I'm not excusing Republicans while attacking Democrats here.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
This Maj [Army Major Rachel Jones] in the picture above... this isn't your "normal" trans person who suffers from gender dysphoria and just wants to be viewed as a female. This is someone who's screaming for attention, and wants to feel vindicated for their own perceived injustices. This isn't a Rosa parks, this is a Cathy Griffith at best, and possibly would have been a potential Columbine Shooter at worst.

Just because of that photograph, where she's holding the rainbow "Pride" flags? And that placard on her desk that says "My pronouns are She/Her... what are yours?"

I think it's impossible to blend unobtrusively into the background at all times and every moment, when you're part of a small minority that is inherently conspicuous.


Say "hello" to Major Rachel Jones, who when profiled in June of last year, had the title of U.S. Army Sustainment Command, Cyber Division Chief.

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I fully acknowledge that I think people like you, Patrick, Fred, whomever... are all doing what they think is right. I think you truly believe you're supporting something good.


By singling out Rinse, Fred, and myself as "all doing what they think is right", does that then imply that you, randye, Wichita etc are all doing what they think is wrong? Probably not what you had in mind, but it does indicate the condescending nature of your comment.
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To use Patrick's Go-To... "there's bad on both sides."


I would hardly call that my "Go-To"... but it sure beats moronic babbling like the following nonsense.

 
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By singling out Rinse, Fred, and myself as "all doing what they think is right", does that then imply that you, randye, Wichita etc are all doing what they think is wrong? Probably not what you had in mind, but it does indicate the condescending nature of your comment.


No, it means we have a different perspective, and think that your "doing right," is ... while good-intentioned, actually doing more harm than good. Case in point, most of these people suffer from severe mental illness and need help for their mental illness, not acceptance of it. Almost every trans person I've known suffered from a laundry-list of other mental disorders, including clinical OCD, bi-polar, and in two cases... schizophrenia. Nearly all of them suffered from ASD and depression as a default.

I'm not going to criticize your character from the perspective of... I think you genuinely/truly think you're doing good. But in my opinion, being legitimately trans is an exceptionally rare condition... like one in a million. And it's become something that people have sort of "hung their hat on" as an explanation as to what's wrong with them. When you listen to people from the de-trans movement, and even my friends whom have transitioned (and then regretted it), it's the same thing... "I thought this was my problem and it would make me happy."
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Gen Z and the younger end of millennials strongly consider power imbalances when considering right/wrong. They think in terms of oppressors vs. oppressed, and that drastically impacts their opinion.

That said, consider that someone like Thomas Massie also thinks the attack on Yemen was uncalled for, saying bombing people in their sleep is not self defense. Matt Gaetz, who is kind of weird to pin down but is not the typical young college kid, also criticized the move.

I think what you’re seeing is a feeling of “with great power comes great responsibility.” It’s hard to argue a response was needed, but I think it’s generally a good thing to be critical of ourselves.
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Gen Z and the younger end of millennials strongly consider power imbalances when considering right/wrong. They think in terms of oppressors vs. oppressed, and that drastically impacts their opinion.

That said, consider that someone like Thomas Massie also thinks the attack on Yemen was uncalled for, saying bombing people in their sleep is not self defense. Matt Gaetz, who is kind of weird to pin down but is not the typical young college kid, also criticized the move.

I think what you’re seeing is a feeling of “with great power comes great responsibility.” It’s hard to argue a response was needed, but I think it’s generally a good thing to be critical of ourselves.

What an utterly bizarre remark.

Does he think that the Houthis know or care whether anyone might be asleep on any of the ships that they've been attacking?
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I'm not going to criticize your character from the perspective of... I think you genuinely/truly think you're doing good. But in my opinion, being legitimately trans is an exceptionally rare condition... like one in a million.


What is it you think I've done/said in regards to "trans" people? Where is it you think I stand on this topic? What is it you're arguing about with me?
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What is it you think I've done/said in regards to "trans" people? Where is it you think I stand on this topic?


You'll have to excuse me. I forget that you don't have any interest in actually being PART of a conversation, just hanging around and making random comments about other people's comments.

Maybe you can break that cycle and tell me here right now how you stand on this topic?
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No, it means we have a different perspective, and think that your "doing right," is ... while good-intentioned, actually doing more harm than good

People on the left say the same thing about the right. In fact, you yourself have complained that a big problem with the left is that "they think they know what is best for everyone". Then you follow that up with "But we on the right really do know what is best for everyone".

Here is the way I play it. I believe in individual freedom so I say let the individual make their own decision. But it gets complicated when children are involved. Should parents be allowed to refuse to get medical treatment for their sick children and just depend on prayer? Should parents be allowed to authorize sexual re-assignment surgery for their minor children? Those are real tough questions that I struggle to answer. But nothing is gained by one side claiming they have all the answers.

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In a move reminiscent of Subway's famous "$5 FOOTLONG" campaign, the Biden administration greenlighted the Pentagon for a 5th round of airstrikes in a little more than 5 days against Houthi anti-ship missile facilities in Yemen, highlighting the Iran-allied group's persistence in their disruption of vital shipping lanes in the Red Sea—and the Biden administration's resolve to reign in the renegades.


DoD spokesperson John Kirby flashed the iconic "FOOTLONG" gesture as he announced this latest round of U.S. airstrikes.

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I wonder how much money we have spent on missiles since Biden took office.


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People on the left say the same thing about the right. In fact, you yourself have complained that a big problem with the left is that "they think they know what is best for everyone". Then you follow that up with "But we on the right really do know what is best for everyone".


Nope!

The Federal government has no business getting involved in social and cultural issues. As long as everyone's Constitutional rights are being maintained, leave everything else up to the states to figure out. State competition is why this country still exists and is as strong as it is. When policies fail (e.g., California, New York), other states take up the slack and become successful with better policies (e.g., Florida, Texas).
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Nope!

The Federal government has no business getting involved in social and cultural issues


I think I might agree with you, but "social and cultural" issues is a pretty vague term. How do you define them? Are race and religion "social or cultural" issues?

 
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State competition is why this country still exists and is as strong as it is. When policies fail (e.g., California, New York), other states take up the slack and become successful with better policies (e.g., Florida, Texas).



That works great for the wealthy elite who can just pick up and move on a whim. Not so much for the poor black people living in the southern states during the Jim Crowe era.

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I think I might agree with you, but "social and cultural" issues is a pretty vague term. How do you define them? Are race and religion "social or cultural" issues?


These are already defined by the Constitution. I'm talking about the Federal government pushing a cultural agenda... like implementing DEI, etc. If the state of California wants to do that, let them.


 
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Originally posted by BingB:That works great for the wealthy elite who can just pick up and move on a whim.


Life isn't fair. What's worse is central government control where everyone suffers forever, and there are no alternative options.


 
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Originally posted by BingB: Not so much for the poor black people living in the southern states during the Jim Crowe era.


Well, we (my family) fought a war for that, I consider it case closed. My statement wasn't all or nothing binary. Right now... we need state competition more than anything.
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You'll have to excuse me. I forget that you (Patrick) don't have any interest in actually being PART of a conversation, just hanging around and making random comments about other people's comments.

Maybe you can break that cycle and tell me here right now how you stand on this topic?



So you're openly admitting that you don't know where I stand on this issue, yet that doesn't stop you from going out of your way to name me personally and chastise me for my beliefs.

 
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Let me just lay this all out... I'm going to tell you why (in as clearest terms as I can) most people do not support this (the "trans" movement).

I fully acknowledge that I think people like you (Rinse), Patrick, Fred, whomever... are all doing what they think is right. I think you truly believe you're supporting something good.

But here's the problem...



You just haven't been quite the same since Fred got into your head.
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Let me just lay this all out... I'm going to tell you why (in as clearest terms as I can) most people do not support this (the "trans" movement)..

Other than the very narrow issue of sports participation this just is not true at all. most Americans support the individual freedoms over anti-LGBTQ laws.

A solid majority of the public (66%) continues to favor allowing openly transgender men and women to serve in the U.S. military....https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender-issues.aspx

Fewer than three in ten people support state laws that prohibit gender-affirming care for minors or that criminalize providers of that care.......https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/new-poll-shows-americans-overwhelmingly-oppose-anti-transgender-laws


Sixty-three percent of Americans in this latest poll support the Equality Act which would extend those protections in employment and housing discrimination under the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include transgender individuals......https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/new-poll-shows-americans-overwhelmingly-oppose-anti-transgender-laws


About four-in-ten U.S. adults (38%) say that greater acceptance of people who are transgender is generally good for our society, while 32% say it is bad and 29% say it is neither good nor bad. ....https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/02/11/deep-partisan-divide-on-whether-greater-acceptance-of-transgender-people-is-good-for-society/

The public is divided over the extent to which our society has accepted people who are transgender: 38% say society has gone too far in accepting them, while a roughly equal share (36%) say society hasn’t gone far enough. About one-in-four say things have been about right.......https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/06/28/americans-complex-views-on-gender-identity-and-transgender-issues/

Nearly half of U.S. adults (47%) say it’s extremely or very important to use a person’s new name if they transition to a gender that is different from the sex they were assigned at birth and change their name.......https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/06/28/americans-complex-views-on-gender-identity-and-transgender-issues/

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The U.S. Strikes More Houthi Sites in Yemen
 
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The strikes, the sixth round in 10 days, targeted Houthi missiles that were poised to attack merchant and military vessels in the Red Sea, according to a White House official.

 
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For the sixth time in 10 days, the United States on Friday said it had destroyed Houthi missiles in Yemen that were poised to attack merchant and military vessels in the Red Sea, a pattern of strikes that the White House says will continue for the foreseeable future to weaken the militia group.

The U.S. military hit three Houthi missiles and launchers, John F. Kirby, a spokesman for the National Security Council, told reporters on Friday. He did not say what weapons the United States had deployed in the attack, but previous strikes have used cruiser missiles and munitions dropped by fighter jets.

The strikes — the fourth U.S. salvo in as many days — have so far failed to deter the Houthis from attacking shipping lanes in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden, going to and from the Suez Canal, that are critical for global trade. The Iran-backed group says it will keep up its attacks in what it says is a protest against Israel’s military campaign in the Gaza Strip against Hamas.

President Biden said on Thursday that U.S. airstrikes against the Houthis will continue even though they have not halted the group’s attacks on Red Sea shipping. “Are they stopping the Houthis? No,” Mr. Biden said. “Are they going to continue? Yes.”

Last Thursday, American and British attack planes and warships attacked more than 60 Houthi targets, including air defenses, command hubs and facilities to store and launch anti-ship cruise and ballistic missiles, as well as drones.

But the U.S. officials cautioned on Saturday that even after hitting more Houthi missile and drone targets with more than 150 precision-guided munitions, the strikes had damaged or destroyed only about 20 to 30 percent of the Houthis’ offensive capability, much of which is mounted on mobile platforms and can be readily moved or hidden.



If only he could be alive today, to see my commentaries on this forum.

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He would think you a fool, I'm sure.

Ike was a serious man that made many serious decisions, nearly all of them with good outcomes.
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He would think you a fool, I'm sure.

Ike was a serious man that made many serious decisions, nearly all of them with good outcomes.

Sometimes it seems that Ike is forgotten.

That picture is from his "farewell address" where he warns us against exactly what Biden has done. Rinselberg should understand, having been part of the "military/industrial complex".
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That picture is from his "farewell address" where he warns us against exactly what Biden has done.

I thought the criticism of Biden was that he was weakening our military instead of spending more money to build it up.

You think we should make big cuts in military spending?

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Tell me, the military resources that are being expended in Ukraine and the middle east...who makes those? Who profits?

Tell me how Biden has reinforced our defenses.

Biden is not building up the US military, he is squandering our resources. Who benefits by this?

Bueller?....Bueller?

Two peas in a pod:


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I thought the criticism of Biden was that he was weakening our military instead of spending more money to build it up.

You think we should make big cuts in military spending?


I shudder when I consider the possibility that you are entrusted with the minds of future adults.
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Tell me, the military resources that are being expended in Ukraine and the middle east...who makes those? Who profits?

Tell me how Biden has reinforced our defenses.

Biden is not building up the US military, he is squandering our resources. Who benefits by this?

Bueller?....Bueller?

Two peas in a pod:


Whenever we use our military resources we have to replenish them. The military industrial complex benefits.

So are you saying we need to make cuts in defense spending?

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