Look closer at the chart. There is a line where everything below is labeled as "contains inaccurate or fabricated info". There are 4 right wing sources listed but zero from the left.
Under the line "contains misleading info" there are 15 right-wing sources and only 6 from the left.
This is how easily you ignorant Leftists are duped and controlled.
no I just think rightwing runs on lying they are cheap so only spend on wars or other means of induced suffering like prisons they hate the poor and take any excuse increase suffering there also so love to cut medical or welfare or rent control they hate older people and their payments like SS or medicad/care and want that stopped
so what are they good for making the rich richer is about it and lying they are very very good at lying
I never said it was 100% true. In fact I have admitted that there are different charts that rank outlets differently.
I was just using the one that YOU selected.
Are you claiming that these charts are all wrong because there is no bias in any news networks?
Are you claiming that "The Chart" has no bias?
YOU are the one that cited it to differentiate sources that provide more or less "inaccurate or fabricated" info:
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Originally posted by BingB:
Look closer at the chart. There is a line where everything below is labeled as "contains inaccurate or fabricated info". There are 4 right wing sources listed but zero from the left.
Under the line "contains misleading info" there are 15 right-wing sources and only 6 from the left.
You did that even AFTER I provided you with the link where the producers of "The Chart" admit their own bias....
The only reason I was referring to this chart was because it was the one posted in this thread BY YOU.
I did not bring it up. YOU DID.
I hope everyone here agrees that there are different levels and amounts of bias in news sources. I am not swearing by any one particular chart, but I am guessing that they are all pretty close.
I REALLY WONDER WHY THEY CAN NEVER DETECT THE RUMP LIES THEY JUMP ON ANY DEMO MIS-STATEMENTS BUT NEVER SEE THE MOST BLATANT LIE FROM THE RUMP OR Gop
AND INSULT THOSE THAT DO SEE THE LIES
THAT IS NO WAY TO GOVERN BUT WE KNOW THEY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO FAIL SO WHY ELECT LYING SCUM WHO WANT OUR GOVERNMENT TO FAIL WHO THEN WRAP THEMSELVES IN THE FLAG AND CLAIM TO BE PATRIOTS ?
I will never forget a story that was in the news back in 1967, when I was twelve years old. There was a man in Africa who ripped the heart out of another man’s chest and threw it in the trash. The second man lived for another 18 days.
This story is absolutely true. It is a verifiable fact.
The 'center' of the mainstream news media has moved left since I was a younger person.
JFK would be a right wing Republican in current times.
Yeah, I mention this often to a lot of younger left-leaning people. I don't really get into politics in my day-to-day life... but over the past decade or so, I've said the JFK quote, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." For whatever reason a lot of kids today don't really learn a lot of these quotes (or they aren't exposed to them). Anyway, that JFK quote would likely be viewed as "fascist" to most young people today. It's also totally antithetical to the desires of many people on the left for a more "comprehensive" cradle-to-grave style of government.
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
that JFK quote would likely be viewed as "fascist" to most young people today. It's also totally antithetical to the desires of many people on the left for a more "comprehensive" cradle-to-grave style of government.
Wait, what. I thought the left wanted everyone to sacrifice to the government while the right told the government to piss off.
So how can a quote asking people to sacrifice to their government be bad for the left. Seems like it is actually their position.
The right thinks the government is dangerous and too big and threatening. They are anti-tax. Telling people to give and sacrifice to the country is the OPPOSIT of what the right would say today.
I will never forget a story that was in the news back in 1967, when I was twelve years old. There was a man in Africa who ripped the heart out of another man’s chest and threw it in the trash. The second man lived for another 18 days.
This story is absolutely true. It is a verifiable fact.
I think you have "liberals" confused with "conservatives".
It was the conservatives who actually believed the lie about the 2020 election being stolen just because a rigth-wing news source told them it was true.
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I think you have "liberals" confused with "conservatives".
It was the conservatives who actually believed the lie about the 2020 election being stolen just because a rigth-wing news source told them it was true.
And this demonstrates how Leftists are perplexed when confronted with facts.
I'll bet there are a few adults here with real life experience who can even name the guy who did it. I never forgot his name.
I will never forget a story that was in the news back in 1967, when I was twelve years old. There was a man in Africa who ripped the heart out of another man’s chest and threw it in the trash. The second man lived for another 18 days.
This story is absolutely true. It is a verifiable fact.
Originally posted by BingB: Wait, what. I thought the left wanted everyone to sacrifice to the government while the right told the government to piss off.
So how can a quote asking people to sacrifice to their government be bad for the left. Seems like it is actually their position.
The right thinks the government is dangerous and too big and threatening. They are anti-tax. Telling people to give and sacrifice to the country is the OPPOSIT of what the right would say today.
Your response is intentionally ignorant. Again, if you think you're smarter than everyone else, you're going to assume the rest of us are stupid.
Obviously, you know that I know that you understand the difference here... but again, your desire to be purposely obnoxious in discussions drove this nonsense response.
Kennedy was saying that we shouldn't seek/desire to view the "government" as a social welfare platform to provide for us, that instead, we should seek to take civic action in support of our COUNTRY (not the government) by helping to shape and build a better society. Such as joining the military, or using the private sector (religious institutions, companies, etc.) to drive a better future. E.G., he literally asked us not to expect / demand entitlements... and then dramatically lowered taxes in order to invigorate the private sector as part of his plan.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Your response is intentionally ignorant. Again, if you think you're smarter than everyone else, you're going to assume the rest of us are stupid.
Obviously, you know that I know that you understand the difference here... but again, your desire to be purposely obnoxious in discussions drove this nonsense response.
Kennedy was saying that we shouldn't seek/desire to view the "government" as a social welfare platform to provide for us, that instead, we should seek to take civic action in support of our COUNTRY (not the government) by helping to shape and build a better society. Such as joining the military, or using the private sector (religious institutions, companies, etc.) to drive a better future. E.G., he literally asked us not to expect / demand entitlements... and then dramatically lowered taxes in order to invigorate the private sector as part of his plan.
Don't confuse him any more Todd. He is already confused enough.
and then dramatically lowered taxes in order to invigorate the private sector as part of his plan.
I'd be thrilled to go back to the Tax rates under Kennedy. Do you agree with me on that? How about these other Kennedy polices?
Increasing the minimum wage. Expanding unemployment benefits. Boosting Social Security benefits to encourage workers to retire earlier. Spending more for highway construction.
There was a time when the misinformation and disinformation were primarily “lies of omission”. This has changed.
The search for truth has been subjugated to the human desire to be right, the drive to win. These are natural human traits which developed from the need to survive. But like jealousy and hatred, these instincts must be tempered with wisdom. Uncivilized behavior is exactly that, counter to civilization.
If one propagates a lie, whether it be by omission or commission, he is not right. Though he might win the battle, he has lost the war. Civilization declines.
For me, I choose truth over pyrrhic victory. It is the civilized path.
For me, I choose truth over pyrrhic victory. It is the civilized path.
It is not possible to choose between "truth" and "pyrrhic victory" because they are not opposites. The truth can easily be on the side that requires much damage to win.
What you are actually saying is "I'll just make up whatever I want to believe as the 'truth', but I won't fight to defend it because that might hurt me."
Originally posted by BingB: It is not possible to choose between "truth" and "pyrrhic victory" because they are not opposites. The truth can easily be on the side that requires much damage to win.
What you are actually saying is "I'll just make up whatever I want to believe as the 'truth', but I won't fight to defend it because that might hurt me."
And in your imagination, you have just won an argument that doesn't actually exist, while accomplishing absolutely nothing.
I don't know what you mean. I don't have the resources to travel all over the world to personally investigate everything I read in the news.
I don't have the knowledge or laboratory equipment to do my own medical research.
I can't travel back in time to experience historical events myself.
So what exactly are you suggesting I should be doing?
There are alternate sources of information that are ignored by media, simply because it doesn't fit their preferred narrative. There are other search engines that can be used to avoid the GOOGLE filters. There are usually several sides to the stories presented to the American public.
Find them and use them.
Question what you hear in the media. Every source is biased.
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There are alternate sources of information that are ignored by media, simply because it doesn't fit their preferred narrative. There are other search engines that can be used to avoid the GOOGLE filters. There are usually several sides to the stories presented to the American public.
Find them and use them.
Question what you hear in the media. Every source is biased.
What are these "alternate sources" and why don't you ever use them?
Anyone who does any research knows that there are biased sources, but I parse through all of that. I can give you plenty of examples of people here who have fallen for fake stories. Lots of people here thought the Steele Dossier had something to do with the start of the Russia investigation. Lots of people thought that Hunter Bidens laptop contained evidence of criminal behavior by Joe Biden. Lots of people though oil production did not start dropping until Biden policies took effect. Lots of people here believed that Joe Biden can still use Title 42 to control immigration. Some people here even believed that Kim Jung Un stopped firing missiles and threatening the Unted States after his meeting with Trump. None of those people ever took their heads out of the right-wing echo chamber. They were wrong about those things while I was correct.
And you don't do any "independent research" at all. You just search the internet the same as I do.
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