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Let's talk about the media, and what journalism should be in a free society by olejoedad
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One would think that a trial where the star witness spent time in prison for perjury would raise some doubts as to the outcome of the proceedings.
The star witness even confessed to stealing money from the Trump organization.

Only in a liberal progressive stronghold like NYC would this not raise questions....
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

One would think that a trial where the star witness spent time in prison for perjury would raise some doubts as to the outcome of the proceedings.
The star witness even confessed to stealing money from the Trump organization.



This happens all the time. Crooks work with other crooks. So the crooks are the ones who testify against the other crooks. Trump could not find any Sunday School teachers to help him with his criminal activity.

That is why the prosecution put on other witnesses to substantiate the credibility. The checks were written. The money was paid. All for the benefit of Trump.
 
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Only in a liberal progressive stronghold like NYC would this not raise questions....


Are you serious. Conservative Republicans elected Donal Trump as President AFTER

...Courts shut down his charity as a fraud and he paid millions in damages

...Courts shut down his "academy" as a fraud and he paid millions in damages.

...Trump paid $750K to settle anti-trust lawsuite brought by DOJ.

...Trump paid $250K in fines to settle charges brought by New York State Lobbying Commission


Only in a brainwashed GOP would this type of behavior not raise a question. Lots of politicians have a group of people who follow them like blind sheep, but Trump is the only one I know who actually brags in front of them about how brainwashed they are.. .

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK? It's, like, incredible."
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I'm beginning to think that lnstead of teaching history, you're sitting at the back of the classroom hiding from the teacher.

Trump was elected to his first term for a number of reasons, including the corruption of his opponent.

He failed to be reelected due to the infowar conducted by the liberal media and Democratic Party obstruction. Who that is entrenched in DC would want an outsider to come in and upset their feedwagon?
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He failed to be reelected due to the infowar conducted by the liberal media and Democratic Party obstruction.



Is this supposed to be a joke? The largest media outlet in the nation supported Trump.
 
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Who that is entrenched in DC would want an outsider to come in and upset their feedwagon?



Trump never upset any "insider feedwagon". Everyone around him in his administration was an "insider". Mostly lobbbyist that had been in DC for many years.

https://www.propublica.org/...shington-dc-insiders

-At least 187 Trump political appointees have been federal lobbyists, and despite President Trump’s campaign pledge to “drain the swamp,” many are now overseeing the industries they once lobbied on behalf of.

-Ethics waivers allow Trump staffers to work on subjects in which they have financial conflicts of interest.

-At least 254 appointees affiliated with Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and at least 125 staffers from prominent conservative think tanks are now working in the federal government,

-At least 35 Trump political appointees worked for or consulted with groups affiliated with the the billionaire libertarian brothers Charles and David Koch,

- At least 25 Trump appointees came from the influential Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank founded in 1973, and at least two came from Heritage Action, its related political nonprofit.

-Leonard Wolfson, who was lobbying on behalf of the Mortgage Bankers Association on Capitol Hill one week before getting paid $64 per hour as an expert at the Department of Housing and Urban Development the next week. Senate records show Wolfson was actively lobbying on banking legislation and regulatory issues in April and May. By mid-May, Wolfson had taken a relatively rare position as an outside “expert” at HUD while he was still employed at the 2,200-member lobbying group.

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The first time I voted for Trump, it was because he wasn’t Hillary.

The second time I voted for Trump, it was because of what he did after the first time I voted for him.

This time, I will vote for Trump because of the people who made him an outlaw.
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I've revised my seating assessment willie.

I think BingB is either in the hallway or possibly detention.

I'm thinking of a Jim Carrey movie that I couldn't watch for more than 15 minutes.
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I've revised my seating assessment willie.

I think BingB is either in the hallway or possibly detention.

I'm thinking of a Jim Carrey movie that I couldn't watch for more than 15 minutes.

That would be any Jim Carrey movie.

Fred probably spent his school daze out in the parking lot with rayb.


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Is this supposed to be a joke? The largest media outlet in the nation supported Trump.


You are a joke. The largest media outlet in the nation became the largest media outlet in the nation because, ... Every other of the many media outlets served the dumbocrats and not the truth. The leftoid news sources, all together, have more viewers than Fox News.
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You are a joke. The largest media outlet in the nation became the largest media outlet in the nation because, ... Every other of the many media outlets served the dumbocrats and not the truth. The leftoid news sources, all together, have more viewers than Fox News.


translation from nut-conned

FOX LIES
WE LIKE LIES
FOX TELLS THE LIES WE LIKE
WE LIKE FOX BECAUSE THEY LIE

BTW THE TRUTH MAKES CON'S SAD
LIKE TRUMP LOST
LIKE THE CULT IS LEAD BY A CROOK [NOW CON-VICTED]
LIKE FAILED IDEAS DO NOT NEED RERUNS
WE TRYED IT AND IT FAILED MOVE ON
GOD'S RECORD IN GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOOD
RECENT FAILURES
ISIS TALI-BAN IRAN LEVEL BAD
FRANCO LEVEL BAD OR HIS BUDDYS
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We have heard this crap before.

It turned out to be media spin.

You're very dizzy.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

That would be any Jim Carrey movie.

Fred probably spent his school daze out in the parking lot with rayb.



JEFF WAS NOT PLAYED BY JIM
AND I HAD A DIRTY/STREET BIKE

WE DID NOT DO THAT AT SCHOOL IN SPRING 68
LATER AT LOCAL COLLEGE SURE BUT NOT IN THE LOTS
PIGS ACTIVE IN LOTS
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Originally posted by olejoedad:



We have heard this crap before.

It turned out to be media spin.

You're very dizzy.


3/4 BILLION $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

WAS NOT SPIN
I DO NOT SPIN $750,000,000.00
WITH MORE PAYMENTS TO OTHERS COMING SOON
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Willing to bet the penalties will be reversed and Trump will get the money back, and more?
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Originally posted by cliffw:

The leftoid news sources, all together, have more viewers than Fox News.



Because of viewers choice. Not because they are controlled by the "mainstream media". Trump did not lose because no one knows what FoxNews is. Anyone who votes knows what FoxNews is.

The right has played that victim card to death.

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Willing to bet the penalties will be reversed and Trump will get the money back, and more?


MAGIC THINKING

first it was an agreed settlement so closed court case

trump ''get'' '' the penalties will be reversed and Trump will get the money back''
how why a nation's leader has no influence on a court case
THAT IS SOMETHING A KING WITH ABSOLUTE POWER COULD DO [IN LALA LAND]
DOUBLE ''no influence'' ON A SETTLED CASE
THERE WAS NO TRIAL NO APPEAL THEY SETTLED

SO SURE i WILL BET MY 25K MILE MINT FORMULA
AGAINST ANY EQUAL VALUED RIDE
NOT EVEN THE PACKED AND TOTAL CROOKED SUPREME COULD OR WOULD FIND ANY WAY TO DO THAT

NOT JUST no THEY WILL NOT DO THAT
THERE IS NO LEGAL WAY TO DO THAT


LOL DUMB
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I also have a Formula.

We do have something in common.
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Hmmm, remember the 'obviously Russian planted' laptop?

https://www.foxnews.com/opi...s-disappear-cant-now
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Hmmm, remember the 'obviously Russian planted' laptop?

https://www.foxnews.com/opi...s-disappear-cant-now


hunter should be fired from his government position

O

he has NO government JOB ?

hard to fire then ain't he
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It's a falsification on paperwork thing.

Man, you know how those can turn out!
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Hmmm, remember the 'obviously Russian planted' laptop?

https://www.foxnews.com/opi...s-disappear-cant-now



Dems were wrong to claim that it was from Russians. Reps were wrong to claim it contained proof of corruption by Joe Biden. It was a big nothing that should not have had any influence on the election.

Republicans have no one but themselves to blame for how easy it was to deflect the laptop as potentially fake. It suddenly appeared right before the election just like in the previous election where the Russians leaked info just before the election and Comey fired up a bogus investigation of Hillary's laptop. it looked just like the same old song and dance all over again.

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We can agree on the first sentence, but it should be added that the "independent" Fifth Estate should not have been carrying the story with a political slant.

The rest of your post.....nah!
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it looked just like the same old dong and dance all over again.





That pretty much describes all of your dick-headed posts.


 
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Republicans have no one but themselves to blame for how easy it was to deflect the laptop as potentially fake.





Well of course the 51 Leftist "national intelligence" goobers, including Congressional testimony perjurer James Clapper and Clinton sycophants John Brennan and Leon Panetta, who signed their bullshit letter calling it a fake do come immediately to mind as prime "suspects" to blame.

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That pretty much describes all of your dick-headed posts.





Although I did work for a "dong and dance" service back in college this was just a typo.

Note that the "d" is right next to the "s" on the keyboars.

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Well of course the 51 Leftist "national intelligence" goobers, including Congressional testimony perjurer James Clapper and Clinton sycophants John Brennan and Leon Panetta, who signed their bullshit letter calling it a fake do come immediately to mind as prime "suspects" to blame.


They did not say it was Russian disinformation. They said it "had the appearance" of Russian disinformation. And that is 100% true. The guy supposedly had the laptop for over a year and he just starts dropping the info a couple of weeks before the election? The FBI knew the laptop most likely belonged to Hunter, but they did not know if the info on it had been altered. Or if fake stuff was mixed in with the real. The timing and the source (a blind, MAGA, computer store owner) made it very suspicious.

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They did not say it was Russian disinformation. They said it "had the appearance" of Russian disinformation. And that is 100% true.

The guy supposedly had the laptop for over a year and he just starts dropping the info a couple of weeks before the election? The FBI knew the laptop most likely belonged to Hunter, but they did not know if the info on it had been altered. Or if fake stuff was mixed in with the real. The timing and the source (a blind, MAGA, computer store owner) made it very suspicious.






It's obvious that when you don't know something, You just make sh*t up and claim that it's 100% true"
(i.e. your Disney / Florida litigation outcome fairy tales / lies )

Your Leftist M.O. of defaulting to your "holy sacrament of lying" has become nauseatingly routine here.

NOTHING that you said was in the letter from the 51 Leftist intel goobers.

NOTHING that you said comports with reality, then or now.

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It's obvious that when you don't know something, You just make sh*t up and claim that it's 100% true"
(i.e. your Disney / Florida litigation outcome fairy tales / lies )

Your Leftist M.O. of defaulting to your "holy sacrament of lying" has become nauseatingly routine here.

NOTHING that you said was in the letter from the 51 Leftist intel goobers.

NOTHING that you said comports with reality, then or now.



reality is the rump is in debt to putin
putin hides his money very well
eric the idiot rump said so years ago
dupes like you repeat the john birch BS endlessly
russian reds are dead not under the bed
but putin owns the money behind the rump empire
so simply as can be said
PUTIN OWNS THE RUMP
CAPITAL IN ACTION
HE WAS BOUGHT YEARS AGO

HELL OF A TELEPROMPTER less speech by our rump this weak-end

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putin
putin
rump
john birch
russian reds
putin rump
PUTIN RUMP

rump


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can you post a complex thought

or only nee jerks about the left
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Willing to bet the penalties will be reversed and Trump will get the money back, and more?


thread is about media truth facts ect

not crimes of your cult leader or party

now crimes of the media like fox news lying for the rump in post election
that is the 3/4 BILLION USD I am talking about

and no that money is 100% gone
rump superman or your imaginary god ain't getting spit back

and as several corp and people are suing the fox for the SOS DD
and they PAID the first so the others are in line to be PAID ALSO

AGAIN MEDIA LIES AND THE REAL COSTS
NOT THE RUMP OR TROLLS FOR TRUMP CRIME APOLOGY'S
OTHER TREADS FOR THAT
OR YOUR USUAL WHAT ABOUTING EXCESSIVELY
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thread is about media truth facts ect

not crimes of your cult leader or party

now crimes of the media like fox news lying for the rump in post election
that is the 3/4 BILLION USD I am talking about

and no that money is 100% gone
rump superman or your imaginary god ain't getting spit back

and as several corp and people are suing the fox for the SOS DD
and they PAID the first so the others are in line to be PAID ALSO

AGAIN MEDIA LIES AND THE REAL COSTS
NOT THE RUMP OR TROLLS FOR TRUMP CRIME APOLOGY'S
OTHER TREADS FOR THAT
OR YOUR USUAL WHAT ABOUTING EXCESSIVELY

You see, folks? This is why we can't have nice things.

It's like going to the zoo when the monkeys are slinging crap at everyone.

Or going to the restaurant and getting seated next to the table full of screaming kids.

This is not how adults behave.
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You see, folks? This is why we can't have nice things.

It's like going to the zoo when the monkeys are slinging crap at everyone.

Or going to the restaurant and getting seated next to the table full of screaming kids.

This is not how adults behave.


what is a nice thing that you demand ?

how about not lying here about your cult
if you hate seeing the lying pointed out ?
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W M D

Willfully Malevolent Distraction
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I would think that 'Willfully Malevolent Distractions' have done more damage to our society than the other 'WMD' types combined.

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I would think that 'Willfully Malevolent Distractions' have done more damage to our society than the other 'WMD' types combined.


Words of Maniacal Delusion?
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They go hand-in-hand.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

Willfully Malevolent Distraction


well that is what the rump runs on

trying to lie his way i to office

by any means at all including cheating
and by force
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W M D



I bet you fell for that the first time.

Most people on the right did.

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