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Let's talk about the media, and what journalism should be in a free society by olejoedad
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

https://www.foxnews.com/opi...cover-up-coup-kamala


fox the corp-RAT THAT PAID OVER 3/4 OF A BILLION FOR LYING

FIND SOURCES NOT KNOWN FOR LYING

WHY BELIEVE ANYTHING THOSE LYING SCUM SAY

BTW THE RUMP LIES
HOW CAN WE BELIEVE THE PUTIN FINANCED LYING SCUM

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Question wonder and be wierd
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fox the corp-RAT THAT PAID OVER 3/4 OF A BILLION FOR LYING

FIND SOURCES NOT KNOWN FOR LYING

WHY BELIEVE ANYTHING THOSE LYING SCUM SAY

BTW THE RUMP LIES
HOW CAN WE BELIEVE THE PUTIN FINANCED LYING SCUM



 
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by a kook with a list

I do not see this one going well

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https://youtube.com/shorts/...?si=KVosypNsxZEpgpTI


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They must be doing something right....

https://americanmind.org/sa...iumph-of-red-states/
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BBNN - Breitbart Network News - Today ! July 25 '24
Tell us Newsweek, Just how wonderful KaHa was as veep, in charge of border security, an obvious failure, she should resign too.
Total failure to win any votes, anywhere, doomed to fall flat on her face in the November election, Trump exceeding Ronald Reagan's 525 electoral Votes, the dempartie banished to the wilderness for decades, a great change in the Nation, Newsweek out of business, scalped in the courts, cleaned out.
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So we know that Twitter isn't journalism, right? And neither is Rachel Maddow's opinion-based show. Would you be upset if Ben Shapiro didn't broadcast all Democrat victory speeches? Seriously, how have you all been victimized by these examples?

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They must be doing something right....

https://americanmind.org/sa...iumph-of-red-states/


Wait...a Republican think tank determined that the Red States are the best and Democrats are big losers? Who could have seen that coming?
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Wait...a Republican think tank determined that the Red States are the best and Democrats are big losers? Who could have seen that coming?




And to do so bereft of even a scintilla of evidence to support their premise.....

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And to do so bereft of even a scintilla of evidence to support their premise.....



The issue is with letting a biased source come to these conclusions for you. I could find some liberal hack piece about how conservative states are the worst, but it wouldn't have any more value than this does.

That's how you get into "versions" of the truth.
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I could find some liberal hack piece about how conservative states are the worst, ...


Show us.

 
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... but it wouldn't have any more value than this does.


Not necessarily.
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your guys are still arguing about is it raining
no one even looks at a rain gauge
or to see if the ground is wet

but they want to evaluation the education and credentials of the claimants
with out a care if the rain is real

the rejection of the data is a real problem
key to the rump claims of doing a good job
the rump blew it
but if no one looks at the data
he get a free pass to claim BS
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And to do so bereft of even a scintilla of evidence to support their premise.....



you just nailed the base of the rump BS
wild claims factually untrue
that the MAGAt believe
because they like the ideas
never mind the lying

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BBNN - Breitbart Network News - Today ! July 25 '24
Tell us Newsweek, Just how wonderful KaHa was as veep, in charge of border security, an obvious failure, she should resign too.
Total failure to win any votes, anywhere, doomed to fall flat on her face in the November election, Trump exceeding Ronald Reagan's 525 electoral Votes, the dempartie banished to the wilderness for decades, a great change in the Nation, Newsweek out of business, scalped in the courts, cleaned out.


polls are SHIFTING FAST

THE RUMP WILL BE DUMPED
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An essay from The American Mind......

https://americanmind.org/salvo/beyond-lying/
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Show us

Go back and read why I said doing so would be a bad idea.

 
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Not necessarily.

I'd argue that the near lack of objective value is absolutley a necessary part of this level of hackery. What's your argument for parsing the validity of individual pieces of hackery?
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Go back and read why I said doing so would be a bad idea.


You will have to help me. All I could find is you claiming it would be a wash.

 
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I'd argue that the near lack of objective value is absolutley a necessary part of this level of hackery. What's your argument for parsing the validity of individual pieces of hackery?


My argument ?

What hacking ?

I am glad to meet you Kreskin. Or, are you Carnac the Magnificent ?

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You will have to help me. All I could find is you claiming it would be a wash.

I never claimed it would be a wash. I inferred it would be a net loss to the actual truth. I don't want to engage in fudging the truth to benefit my viewpoint.

 
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My argument ?

Yes. I cannot make it or assume it for you in good faith.
 
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What hacking ?

Hackery. Not hacking.

 
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I am glad to meet you Kreskin. Or, are you Carnac the Magnificent ?

Google tells me these are a culturally insensitive Johnny Carson skit and a 'mentalist' from the 1970s. Beyond that I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
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Hackery. Not hacking.


Hacking works very well. It would be how one arrives at hackery.

 
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I never claimed it would be a wash. I inferred it would be a net loss to the actual truth. I don't want to engage in fudging the truth to benefit my viewpoint.


Hacking of conservative and liberal views, both are claims. Either and also or could be a blatant lie.

The actual truth ? That would be up to the person who will explore each side of an issue. Even then, hindsight is 20/20.

 
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Google tells me these are a culturally insensitive Johnny Carson skit and a 'mentalist' from the 1970s. Beyond that I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.


It means you can't know for sure. In this case, without having listened to both sides.

Carnac culturally insensitive ? Only to those who are "soft".
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They must be doing something right....

https://americanmind.org/sa...iumph-of-red-states/

Blue states pay the bills for red states.

So of course people want to migrate to red states where they can live off the tax dollars from blue states.

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From the wall street journal....

Let's give amnesty to dictators! ( It will save on FJB's phone bill, it's a budget reduction plan. The long distance charges are adding up)


https://www.breitbart.com/l...ty-his-head-amnesty/
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An essay from The American Mind......

https://americanmind.org/salvo/beyond-lying/


NOT ONE OF THE UNCOUNTED RUMP LIES MENTION
ONE SIDE ONLY
BUT THE OTHER THE RUMP LIES THE MOST BY 10 TIMES
AND THE CON'S CAN'T HEAR ANY OR SEE ANY

TOMMY CAN YOU FEEL ME
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BTW

FACTS

THE FLIP IS FIRM SOLID AND STRONG

THE 3 KEY BIG BATTLE GROUND STATES
ARE ALL 50 VS 46 FLIPPED FOR HER

THE LYING SCUM WILL LOSE
YOU ALL CULTIST ARE GOING TO CRY
AND THEN CLAIM IT WAS STOLEN

WATCH FOR THE RUMP GO INSANE NOW
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It seems to me that the lying scum is currently a resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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It seems to me that the lying scum is currently a resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


bet the trump lies far more often

why can the cult never see the facts ?
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From a former Liberal cult member......

https://sashastone.substack...-of-manufactured-joy
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From a former Liberal cult member......

https://sashastone.substack...-of-manufactured-joy

Gee I wonder why Stone REALLY became a Trump supporter. Here is what she has to say about it.

https://www.hollywoodreport...te-power-1235973173/

As Stone has appeared on Megyn Kelly’s SiriusXM show. “The Trump stuff does sell better,” Stone says. “People are interested in it to hate read."

She supports "hatred" and mocks "joy" because that position makes her more money. She is a huge hypocrite. She claims she was "victimized" by Hollywood because she supported the movie "Green Book" which "Hollywood thought was racist". Only problem with that story is that Hollywood also gave "Green Book" the following awards. . . Academy Award for Best Picture, Best Original Screenplay, and Best Supporting Actor. It also won the Producers Guild of America Award for Best Theatrical Motion Picture, the Golden Globe Award for Best Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy, and the National Board of Review award for the best film of 2018, and was chosen as one of the top 10 films of the year by the American Film Institute. Ali also won the Golden Globe, Screen Actors Guild, and BAFTA Awards for Best Supporting Actor.

She is a classic self-made victim.
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Shouldn't you be in class teaching (or learning)?
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Shouldn't you be in class teaching (or learning)?



Test day.

So I am doing my educating here.

You are welcome.

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Typical Leftist move - attack the messenger, not the message.

There is a comment attached to the article that reminds me of certain members of the Forum.

It has to do with a disgusting habit that some dogs have.
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Public schools in Denver began yesterday.
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Typical Leftist move - attack the messenger, not the message..


Her message is nothing but right-wing gibberish.

She claims the 2020 election was stolen.

She claims that the Democrats PLANNED to make Biden look like a clown in a debate with Trump.

She claims that Democrats thought Harris could not handle the Job of VP even though they had elected her as VP.

She claims that no woman or woman of color can win in America. Since the Democrats are running a minority woman candidate that means she is basically saying Republicans are the reason a woman or woman of color could never win.

She accuse Democrats of criticizing the Republicans when Republicans do the same thing to Democrats.

This comment is a perfect example of how completely unhinged she is. . . "We don’t want you in our restaurants, at our concerts, buying our clothes, watching our movies, using our apps, working out in our gyms. Stay back in the hollowed-out hinterlands where you belong because you are still voting for him. Taylor Swift belongs to us. Hollywood belongs to us. Stay out." No liberal anywhere has ever said anything like this. Her victim mentality is off the charts. Meanwhile conservatives have recorded and anthem for everyone to hear that warning Liberals that if they exercise their Constitutional right to protest against the government they will "See how far ya make it down the road".

She claims that Liberals are "emasculated nice guys".

She says that "They believe isolating themselves from the rest of us will preserve their goodness." This is total gibberish. I don't even know what it means.

She claims that the Trump administration was part of the "Obama coalition". Again gibberish that I do not even understand.

She claims liberals are the ones behind the "cancel culture" that damaged Bud Lite and boycotted stores that say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas".


It is nothing but a string of simple-minded speaking points that only sound good if they are what you want to hear. that way you never even question if they make sense or not.

Her message is gibberish.

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From The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board......

https://www.wsj.com/opinion...6?st=7szqqia83rhcs5u
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Shouldn't you be in class teaching (or learning)?


 
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Test day.

So I am doing my educating here.


 
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Public schools in Denver began yesterday.

He heh heh.

Not all of our schools are open yet.

He is clearly not a teacher and not very smart to boot.

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From The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board......

https://www.wsj.com/opinion...6?st=7szqqia83rhcs5u



Every poll I see shows that Trump is seen as a much larger threat to democracy than Harris. Here is a big recent one. https://apnorc.org/projects...esidential-election/

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Test day.


What was the test about ?
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Every poll I see shows that Trump is seen as a much larger threat to democracy than Harris. Here is a big recent one. https://apnorc.org/projects...esidential-election/


Wow !

The NORC at the University of Chicago ? Who could have seen that coming ? NPR ? Who could have seen that coming ?

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Wow !

The NORC at the University of Chicago ? Who could have seen that coming ? NPR ? Who could have seen that coming ?

Wow Cliff posts absolutely NOTHING to support his position. Who could have seen that coming?

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When the TV news crew comes to interview Jim's neighbors, do you think they will say, "He was a quiet guy..." or "I knew it! I just knew it!" ?
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