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Let's talk about the media, and what journalism should be in a free society by olejoedad
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There is no point, at this point, to pay attention to polls.

Let's wait until after the first debate.
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Public schools in Denver began yesterday.


Do you suppose he booked tickets for a concert in Atlanta if he lives in Colorado?
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Do you suppose he booked tickets for a concert in Atlanta if he lives in Colorado?

I'm sure he bought enough for the whole class. It would be a valuable history lesson, donchaknow.
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President Trump has a conversation with a comedian.

https://www.breitbart.com/e...nversation-ive-seen/

https://youtu.be/vC5cHjcgt5g?si=F9OVjHZY4Q_2ojwf

Will YOU be willfully ignorant?

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Wow Cliff posts absolutely NOTHING to support his position. Who could have seen that coming?




What position did I make ?

You are WRONG AGAIN. Everybody saw that coming.
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What position did I make ?
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That the poll I posted was incorrect.

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What position did I make ?

You are WRONG AGAIN. Everybody saw that coming.


 
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That the poll I posted was incorrect.




You are triggering my PTSD ! Pretty tired of stupid democrats.

I did not take a position nor was I charged with disproving yours.

Would you like to debate that poll (cough cough).

How is Trump a threat to freedom ? You poll is full of brain dead people repeating what they have been told, over and over.
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A very pertinent question......

https://www.dossier.today/p...ng-the-country-right


is there any insane rightwing nut job site you will not post here ?

do you ever look at any moderate site ever ?
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is there any insane rightwing nut job site you will not post here ?

do you ever look at any moderate site ever ?


Yes, I look at 'moderate' sites, conservative sites and liberal sites.

I post conservative and moderate sites articles to spark conversation.

The articles on the liberal sites are ridiculous, and I don't want to further their propaganda.
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Would you like to debate that poll (cough cough).

Sure.

Why did you make such a dramatic comment about it if you were not claiming it was wrong?

 
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How is Trump a threat to freedom ?



Vice President Mike Pence says it best. . . "I think it’s important that the American people know what happened in the days before January 6. President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”

For those who might doubt him, Pence urged them to “read the indictment.”

Trump also committed multiple criminal acts in an attempt to overturn a valid election. These including illegally hacking into voting records in Georgia and setting up panels of fraudulent delegates to cast fraudulent votes for him in multiple states.

He was a con man and a crook before he ever became President and he tried to use those skills to overturn a valid election.

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Vice President Mike Pence says it best. . . "I think it’s important that the American people know what happened in the days before January 6. President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”

For those who might doubt him, Pence urged them to “read the indictment.”

Trump also committed multiple criminal acts in an attempt to overturn a valid election. These including illegally hacking into voting records in Georgia and setting up panels of fraudulent delegates to cast fraudulent votes for him in multiple states.

He was a con man and a crook before he ever became President and he tried to use those skills to overturn a valid election.



Your sources are missing.

You ALWAYS post sources, or so I have read.
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Speaking of the media, and what it has become.

Listen to this guy. You will probably recognize him.....

https://www.youtube.com/liv...?si=tpGvWeijdd4hht9E
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Your sources are missing.

You ALWAYS post sources, or so I have read.

I will always post sources if anything I say is challenged.

What have I posted that you claim is not true?

Do you want to research it yourself before making yourself look stupid again?

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Would you like to debate that poll (cough cough).

How is Trump a threat to freedom ? You poll is full of brain dead people repeating what they have been told, over and over.


 
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Vice President Mike Pence says it best. . . "I think it’s important that the American people know what happened in the days before January 6. President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that.”


It is not the charge for the Vice President to examine and to except or to deny every vote. Pence simply could have said 'I am not going to certify at this time. Issues need time to be looked at."


My turn. The Dumbs are the ones who tried everything to keep Trump from running against Biden. Including trying to keep him off State ballots (by State empowered Dumbs). The Dumbs even wanted to keep independent JFK Jr off ballots and would not let him debate against Biden.

The Dumbs are the party of censorship.

 
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Trump also committed multiple criminal acts in an attempt to overturn a valid election. These including illegally hacking into voting records in Georgia and setting up panels of fraudulent delegates to cast fraudulent votes for him in multiple states.


You skin is blue.

What is your evidence ?


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It is not the charge for the Vice President to examine and to except or to deny every vote. Pence simply could have said 'I am not going to certify at this time. Issues need time to be looked at."





No he could not. What do you think gives him that authority?

How long is he allowed to wait? Years? Who is President while he waits?

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My turn. The Dumbs are the ones who tried everything to keep Trump from running against Biden. Including trying to keep him off State ballots (by State empowered Dumbs).


You mean all those court cases claiming he could not be on the ballot because he was really born in Kenya instead of Hawaii?

Try not to hurt your hands from clutching your pearls too hard.

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What is your evidence ?


Admissions of the parties involved. https://www.businessinsider...020-election-2023-12

Text messages from Trump's attorney Sidney Powell confirming the illegal access to the Coffee county voting records https://www.cnn.com/2023/08...ach-trump/index.html

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Give it up, BingB, no one is buying what you are peddling.

Well, maybe ray b.....

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It is not the charge for the Vice President to examine and to except or to deny every vote. Pence simply could have said 'I am not going to certify at this time. Issues need time to be looked at."


 
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No he could not. What do you think gives him that authority?

How long is he allowed to wait? Years? Who is President while he waits?



Who gave Biden the authority to forgive student debt ?

Who gave Biden the authority to invite and allow millions of illegal aliens into our country ?
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You mean all those court cases claiming he could not be on the ballot because he was really born in Kenya instead of Hawaii?


Your grasping for air.

What court cases ? All those court cases when there were none ?

Are you talking about the claim Hillary made up to help her beat Obama ?
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Trump also committed multiple criminal acts in an attempt to overturn a valid election. These including illegally hacking into voting records in Georgia and setting up panels of fraudulent delegates to cast fraudulent votes for him in multiple states.


 
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Where is your proof ?


 
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Admissions of the parties involved. https://www.businessinsider...020-election-2023-12


Heh, Business Insider. Alleging Trump set up panels of fraudulent Electors, with no evidence.

 
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Text messages from Trump's attorney Sidney Powell confirming the illegal access to the Coffee county voting records https://www.cnn.com/2023/08...ach-trump/index.html


Heh, CNN. Without showing one text message.

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Trump also committed multiple criminal acts in an attempt to overturn a valid election.


Allegedly committed multiple criminal acts in an attempt to overturn a valid election.
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Heh, Business Insider. Alleging Trump set up panels of fraudulent Electors, with no evidence.

Heh, CNN. Without showing one text message.



Sidney Powell plead guilty the fraud electors will be tried in several states

if the rump would ever stand trial instead of delaying every trial like the crook he is
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10 MILLION PAID BY PUTIN TO Gop AGENTS FOR THE RUMP TO INFLUENCE THE MEDIA

REMEMBER WHEN I SAID FOLLOW THE MONEY

THE MONEY NEVER LIES RIGHTWING AGENTS SURE DO
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Paid to anti-Trump GOP never Trumpers?
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Paid to anti-Trump GOP never Trumpers?


NO THAT IS YOU LYING TO MEMBERS HERE YET AGAIN
you know it is wrong as you put the ? there to cover

PUTIN IS NOT ANTI-RUMP

PUTIN LOVES HIS RUMP

PUTIN OWNS HIS RUMP

PUTIN SPENDS REAL MONEY ON THE RUMPS ELECTIONS

10 million is just one payment that was caught lately not the total far bigger over many years
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NO THAT IS YOU LYING TO MEMBERS HERE YET AGAIN
you know it is wrong as you put the ? there to cover

PUTIN IS NOT ANTI-RUMP

PUTIN LOVES HIS RUMP

PUTIN OWNS HIS RUMP

PUTIN SPENDS REAL MONEY ON THE RUMPS ELECTIONS

10 million is just one payment that was caught lately not the total far bigger over many years


Is that your opinion, or do you have reliable sources for that information?
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follow the money

the money never lies

if you follow the money you learn the truth

do your own hunt [hint not on rightwing lying links]
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NO THAT IS YOU LYING TO MEMBERS HERE YET AGAIN
you know it is wrong as you put the ? there to cover

PUTIN IS NOT ANTI-RUMP

PUTIN LOVES HIS RUMP

PUTIN OWNS HIS RUMP

PUTIN SPENDS REAL MONEY ON THE RUMPS ELECTIONS

10 million is just one payment that was caught lately not the total far bigger over many years




(I think this was the video that made Otava Yo an international sensation.)
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Heh, Business Insider. Alleging Trump set up panels of fraudulent Electors, with no evidence.





They are already pleading guilty.

https://www.politico.com/ne...guilty-plea-00172983

An Arizona Republican who falsely claimed to be a legitimate presidential elector for former President Donald Trump — part of a sweeping effort by Trump and his allies to subvert the 2020 election — has pleaded guilty for her role in the scheme.


I don't think I have ever known of anyone on a political forum who is so completely ignorant of any news outside his party propaganda.

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Heh, CNN. Without showing one text message.


Here are some exact quotes for you

"Here’s the plan. Let’s keep this close hold,” Jim Penrose, a former NSA official working with Trump lawyer Sidney Powell to access voting machines in Georgia, wrote in a January 19 text to Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, a firm that purports to run audits of voting systems.


“We only have until Saturday to decide if we are going to use this report to try to decertify the Senate run-off election or if we hold it for a bigger moment,” Penrose wrote, referring to a potential lawsuit
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And even Rudy Guliaini admitted to it in the Jan 6 Congressional hearing

Giuliani, told the House January 6 committee that his team got access to voting machines in Coffee County, according to a transcript of his testimony released by the panel. 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04...ting-data/index.html


How did you never hear about any of this? What is your source of information?

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I don't think I have ever known of anyone on a political forum who is so completely ignorant of any news outside his party propaganda.


Well, there is you, Mr. Liberal Biased Media Troll.....
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I don't think I have ever known of anyone on a political forum who is so completely ignorant of any news outside his party propaganda.


I don't think I have ever known of anyone on a political forum who is so completely ignorant of the news inside his party's propaganda.

 
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How did you never hear about any of this? What is your source of information?


We know you need to be told what to think. So sad.

My source of information ?

The Counterfeit News Network (CNN) warned us about the boy who kept yelling "wolf".
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Well, there is you, Mr. Liberal Biased Media Troll.....

Everything I post is correct. I back it up with facts.

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We know you need to be told what to think. So sad..



In order to think about anything you have to have a source of information.

How can you have an opinion on anything without knowing anything about it?


The news has been full of stories about multiple fraudlent delegates pleading guilty. Even Trump's attorney Sydney Brown has admitted it. Yetr somehow you KNEW NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF THIS.



Clearly the reason why all of you Trump followers attack my source of information but refuse to disclose yours is that you have been brainwashed to believe that Trump is the only source of truth. that seems to be the only possible answer. I have never known any group of people who refuse to disclose where they get their information.

It is kind of creepy to see the effects of the cult in action right in front of your eyes.

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Wise words from an ex President that certainly are pertinent today, on this subForum....

https://youtube.com/shorts/...?si=KGxhWe_OA9mckDsC
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A sit-down with Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana.

https://youtu.be/B_3hzFJVuy0?si=w07BYWeaEedmlsvW
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

A sit-down with Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana.

https://youtu.be/B_3hzFJVuy0?si=w07BYWeaEedmlsvW


a very conned nut
almost as bad mad as the coach from alabama
the guy is a total worthless con buybull thumper
a very good example of why religion is never good in government
and forsure that guy is no john kennedy at all he is a neely
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Wise words from an ex President that certainly are pertinent today, on this subForum....

https://youtube.com/shorts/...?si=KGxhWe_OA9mckDsC

Ah yes, the king of "You are wrong just because I say you are wrong".

His "trickle down" economic theory was a huge failure, and he oversaw one of the most corrupt administrations in modern history. And I mean real proven corruption, not make believe and media propaganda.

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