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why religion is self proof of fraud by ray b
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Rayb and fred do not exist. Prove me wrong.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

Speech doesn't exist because there are 7,000 different languages, all invented by humans.

Describe "azure" and "vermilion" without metaphor or simile.


there is a number scale call pantone for colors

https://www.pantone-colours.com/

just a 3 digit or 4 or 5 number gets any color
NOTE PAINT PRINT OR SCREEN SHADE WILL VARY

NO FAITH REQUIRED
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You don't have the capacity to understand.
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17-4139 TPG does not describe azure.
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Nor does a hex stream.

461 nanometers defines it, but it does not describe it.

Therefore, in your tiny world, blue does not exist.
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Rayb and fred do not exist. Prove me wrong.


WELL RINSELBERG NO LONGER EXISTS

as he will not post here any more

btw will your god post
anythin ever anywhere


do believers understand the very size of our galaxy
and that we are but one of far too many
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You cannot describe a color. You can point to something and say, "It is like that." But that is useless to someone who can't see what you are pointing to.

A hexadecimal code or a catalog number only represents the color within certain systems.

You can provide the frequency or wavelength, but that only identifies some physical properties. It does not describe the color.

Think of the duality of light. It is a conundrum, but most people will accept that light exists because they have experienced the effects.

God is the light.
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Originally posted by ray b:

WELL RINSELBERG NO LONGER EXISTS


That is only a matter of opinion.
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btw will your god post
anythin ever anywhere


Many will tell you he already has.
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Many will tell you he already has.

Maybe if you took the time to look for it, you would be a little less bitter and hateful.
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Nor does a hex stream.

461 nanometers defines it, but it does not describe it.

Therefore, in your tiny world, blue does not exist.



WTF?

We know blue exists because we can observe and measure its wavelength and differentiate it from other colors. Our brains may interpret sounds and sights differently, but that has nothing to do with there existence. As long as we can observe and measure something we have proof that it exists.

There is nothing about your god that can be observed or measured.

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Maybe if you took the time to look for it, you would be a little less bitter and hateful.



Actually the most bitter and hateful conflict on this planet right now is between people who listen to and follow what your god is supposed to be telling them.

And that has pretty much been the way it has been for the last couple of centuries. the legacy of religion has been death and destruction.

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Maybe if you took the time to look for it, you would be a little less bitter and hateful.


well I read the book

and did it like a book start at page 1 on verse1 in chapter1
something very very few ever do
HATE NEIGHBORS KILL AND SLAVE THEM
they hate critters
they kill lots and lots of them
BEGAT
WANDER
GET CHEATER SCAMED OR SLAVED
RULES DO THIS NOT THAT


they are very sex and cleanse obcessed

the whole son of god who never said that he was that
and the zombie bits
and it winds down at last to an other johns fever dream

set in a real recorded history of jewish revolts
against local empires
egypt first who basically owned the area
then who ever beat up egypt
owned the jews
and their claimed god always FAILED TO HELP
AS THEY DID SOMETHING
OR DIDNOT DO IT ENOUGH
ANYWAY APART FROM WAY BEFORE RECORDED HISTORY
THEY LOSE AGAIN AND AGAIN

ANY WAY LIKE NOW THEY NEVER PLAY WELL WITH OTHERS

AND IF THEY ARE GOD'S PICK
HOW COME THEY ALWAYS LOSE ?



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Think of the duality of light. It is a conundrum, but most people will accept that light exists because they have experienced the effects.

God is the light.


WHAT WAVE LENGTH

WHAT NANOMETER

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Shocked and dismayed that someone is talking religion in a forum called "Politics & Religion"?

Makes zero sense.

You should no better.


That should be spelled 'know', no?
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WTF?

We know blue exists because we can observe and measure its wavelength and differentiate it from other colors. Our brains may interpret sounds and sights differently, but that has nothing to do with there existence. As long as we can observe and measure something we have proof that it exists.

There is nothing about your god that can be observed or measured.


That should be spelled "their", shouldn't it?

You weren't much of lawyer, either ....
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Actually the most bitter and hateful conflict on this planet right now is between people who listen to and follow what your god is supposed to be telling them.

And that has pretty much been the way it has been for the last couple of centuries. the legacy of religion has been death and destruction.

A couple of peaceful atheists:

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HEY THE STANDARD JOHN BIRCH REPLY

btw they were commies
they had a belief system

most commies are dead
they are not under your bed
maybe in it

rump's good buddy rocket boy is about the only one left
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HEY THE STANDARD JOHN BIRCH REPLY

btw they were commies
they had a belief system

most commies are dead
they are not under your bed
maybe in it

rump's good buddy rocket boy is about the only one left

Those two atheists also had their political rivals arrested. As a matter of fact, it was one of Stalin's best men who coined the phrase that has been roughly translated as "Show me the man and I will show you the crime." And you agree with them about class warfare.

You are the best recruiter the JBS could possibly hope for.

But I know you don't really understand any of this. You haven't learned a thing since 1968.
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That should be spelled "their", shouldn't it?

You weren't much of lawyer, either ....



 
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That should be spelled 'know', no?

Nothing says "I got nothing to dispute what you claim" more than ignoring the substance of my comments and crowing about discovering a typo.

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My night job is as a proofreader.

And, as an excellent proofreader, I skim the stupid content and just find errors.
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My night job is as a proofreader.

And, as an excellent proofreader, I skim the stupid content and just find errors.


but never ever in a RWNJ 'S post

show a god any god ever anywhere

can't ?

thought so !!
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Originally posted by ray b:

show a god any god ever anywhere



(grammar counts)

The fact that rayb exists is not only proof of God, but that he is merciful and has infinite patience.
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'' modern British citizens may or may not share with Cromwell,
his stance on the Covenant of Works tends to be less important than the fact that he was a military dictator
who banned the celebration of Christmas.

He's one reason why we tend to look at Christian Nationalism in the US
with deep suspicion and concern: we've already had the Government of the Godly
and it was awful.

Christian Nationalism does link up with a dictator
be it military or just militant or NUTS

or again

WHAT PART OF TRYED IT

IT SUCKED
NO NEED TO RERUN IT HARDER

IS IT THE RIGHTWING JUST FAILS TO UNDERSTAND ????
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'' ...... Cromwell,......the fact that he was a military dictator who banned the celebration of Christmas."



Where do you dredge up this horseshit?

Is this the kind of trash that passes for "fact" in bizarre Lefto-World?

No wonder you have such obvious and serious problems.

Are you also going to tell us all the whopper of a lie about how Oliver Cromwell also banned mince pies for Christmas?

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Where do you dredge up this horseshit?

Is this the kind of trash that passes for "fact" in bizarre Lefto-World?

No wonder you have such obvious and serious problems.



it is called history
something rightwingers are ignorant of apparently
as they want to rerun or retry FAILED IDEAS
LIKE WEAK GOVERNMENT OR A RELIGIOUS ONE

https://historicengland.org...eally-ban-christmas/
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it is called history

https://historicengland.org...eally-ban-christmas/





Tell everyone that you didn't read it without telling everyone you didn't read it.

The "b" obviously stands for bullshit ray

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Tell everyone that you didn't read it without telling everyone you didn't read it.

Leftoids really are a special kind of stupid.


HE WAS THE LEADER
the act of parliament was by his religious NUTS
UNDER HIS REICH
and was in his set of ideas and plans

you quibble about minor points and TOTALLY MISS THE BIG PICTURE

THE GOVERNANCE OF RELIGIOUS NUTS
WHO WERE SO NUTS THEY BANNED X-MASS
WAS SO BAD THEY went back to kings shortly after he died
and they never wanted a religious NUT leader again
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THE GOVERNANCE OF RELIGIOUS NUTS
WHO WERE SO NUTS THEY BANNED X-MASS





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I guess for all his retro-worship

the man is ignorant of history

so he post cartoons as that is his level of understanding

as he is eager to rerun ideas that we tryed that it failed

massachewchits was stock full of religious nuts early on

my people saw the crazy ideas there and left
they founded Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
btw the world first free of religious BS area by law
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Your people is a claim you make on your ancestors.

Would your ancestors claim you?
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fact remain RI was the first to limit religion's power in a state

and england never tryed a religious nut leader again

both ideas our nut-con want to change

again what part of WE TRYED THAT IT FAILED

IS IT YOUR GUYS JUST DO NOT GET ?

THE RUMP IS A RERUN OF OLD FAILED IDEAS
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The First Amendment to the Constitution has already dealt with your perceived problem.

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The First Amendment to the Constitution has already dealt with your perceived problem.



rhonda our local idiot gov

allows public tax money to fund nut religious schools here now

btw wonder why that is the very first thing in the very first part OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS ?

WHAT PART OF THEY TRYED THAT IT FAILED BADLY IS IT OUR Gop JUST FAIL TO UNDERSTAND
so why just like isis or the tali-band\ do they want gods laws to rule the lands of the free ?
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rhonda our local idiot gov

allows public tax money to fund nut religious schools here now

btw wonder why that is the very first thing in the very first part OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS ?

WHAT PART OF THEY TRYED THAT IT FAILED BADLY IS IT OUR Gop JUST FAIL TO UNDERSTAND
so why just like isis or the tali-band\ do they want gods laws to rule the lands of the free ?


I guess you don't understand the First Amendment, which clearly states that the government will no endorse any religion over another.
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I guess you don't understand the First Amendment, which clearly states that the government will no endorse any religion over another.



theory vs really
one cult over another long as both are christian
few native religions get protection ever
but the gods laws bit doesnot apply somehow states or locals
or to abortion or gays

a very two faced spin from the conned
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You're an atheist, what difference does it make to you?
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few native religions get protection ever


That is simply not true. Open the window, go for a walk. There is a great big world outside. You should probably put on some shades so you don't hurt your eyes.

If there were a "native" running for president, would that be a good thing?
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You're an atheist, what difference does it make to you?


most of the stupidest of the Gop/rhonda ideas laws rules of resent infliction on my state
are based in christian hate like his mouse war or don't say gay or other stupid ideas
they waste tax funds
they support the crazy ideas of cults
they are illegal
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most of the stupidest of the Gop/rhonda ideas laws rules of resent infliction on my state
are based in christian hate like his mouse war or don't say gay or other stupid ideas
they waste tax funds
they support the crazy ideas of cults
they are illegal
or just stupid pointless power trips


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