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how long will his sentence be for the first 37 counts nyny rump today by ray b
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Rayb gets a little "fun" in exchange for his eternal servitude.

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well when you do catch the devil or an imp demon what ever
put it on the news
I do not believe you can catch a myth

and u-tube sucks with ads and ad blocking wars anyway
they need to crawl or time swap ADS
what ever not make me do stuff to see the BS they have TO SPEW

AND KEEP CHANGING THE WAYS TO AVOID


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ray b, do you believe that evil exists?
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

ray b, do you believe that evil exists?

If rayb can't drink it, smoke it or screw it, it is beyond his comprehension.

The idea of selling one's soul to the devil is a metaphor as old as civilization.

It is what one does when he is protected and controlled by the mob.

It is also why people join the democratic party, to get free stuff and tacit approval for bad behavior.
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Government handouts are not free. They are loans with exorbitant interest rates.

When Biden's storm troopers invade Trump's house, it is "justice". When Nixon's goons ruin your fun, it is Fascism.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

Rayb gets a little "fun" in exchange for his eternal servitude.

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well when you do catch the devil or an imp demon what ever
put it on the news
I do not believe you can catch a myth

and u-tube sucks with ads and ad blocking wars anyway
they need to crawl or time swap ADS
what ever not make me do stuff to see the BS they have TO SPEW

AND KEEP CHANGING THE WAYS TO AVOID


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Originally posted by olejoedad:

ray b, do you believe that evil exists?


EVIL LIKE A GREEDY SCAMMING SCUM LIKE THE RUMP SURE

some demon with a pitch fork hell NO
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EVIL LIKE A GREEDY SCAMMING SCUM LIKE THE RUMP SURE

some demon with a pitch fork hell NO


Then why did you say 'hell'?
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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Then why did you say 'hell'?




A hate filled, drug addled, Leftist loser will blurt out anything.

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Originally posted by randye:
A hate filled, drug addled, Leftist loser will blurt out anything.



got your goat

I think I won long ago

I retired in 2000 a few weeks before I hit 50
still healthy still debt free my fiero northstar is way faster

we will see who's powers of prediction is better

I say the rump PEAKED FRIDAY 5-31
AND THE SLOW SPIRAL EVER DOWNWARDS
HAS BEGAN IT WILL NOT END
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Do you even know what crime was committed? Jury instructions said the jurors could decide different crimes were committed but so long as all twelve of them thought any crime happened then the judge would count it as unanimous. Is that how justice is supposed to work? Throw everything at the wall and let each juror pick and choose one to get an conviction.



That is not what the jury instructions said at all.

What is your source for this?

Each count was completely separate. Trump could have been acquitted on some and convicted on others. But every guilty conviction required a unanimous vote on that specific count.
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I have heard reports of impromptu "Trump Flash Mobs" gathering in several cities tonight including Scottsdale, AZ.

I can't confirm this.

What song are they performing?

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God Bless America
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Originally posted by williegoat:

"Are you talkin' to me?"

Uh, no. Not any more, Bobby Boy.

NAB Withdraws De Niro’s Service Award




Good move by the NAB.

Very few people defending the non-biased middle ground these days.

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

God Bless America



Makes sense

God and Trump are the only two above the law in your eyes.

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Originally posted by BingB:

Makes sense

Trump = God to those crowds. The only two that are above the law.


How wrong you are.

People in those crowds know that there is only One God, and that no mortal man can rise to that status.

It's in The Ten Commandments. Have you read them?
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How wrong you are.

People in those crowds know that there is only One God, and that no mortal man can rise to that status.

It's in The Ten Commandments. Have you read them?



Sorry, not "equal".

Just the only two above the law.

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Makes sense

Trump = God to those crowds. The only two that are above the law.


Odd, your post says equal.

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Odd, your post says equal.



I know. I was correcting my mistake.

You don't think Trump is equal to God. You just think he is above the law like God.

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I know. I was correcting my mistake.

You don't think Trump is equal to God. You just think he is above the law like God.


You're putting words into my mouth that I never uttered.
That makes two mistakes in one thread.

Not a good look....

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Lol, this is not having the effect the Democrats want.

Aside from the fact that it absolutely enrages Republicans, and totally solidifies their vote for him... the ONLY people who actually want to see Trump in prison are rabid leftists. Seriously, if anyone here (yes Ray, I know) actually wants to see Trump in prison... then you are a radical leftist. Period.

For everyone else, it's making them feel really, really, uneasy right now... and good ole Joe Biden is such a moron, he's only making things worse.


PLEASE... PLEASE send Trump to jail... watch what happens.
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Lol, this is not having the effect the Democrats want.

Aside from the fact that it absolutely enrages Republicans, and totally solidifies their vote for him... the ONLY people who actually want to see Trump in prison are rabid leftists. Seriously, if anyone here (yes Ray, I know) actually wants to see Trump in prison... then you are a radical leftist. Period.

For everyone else, it's making them feel really, really, uneasy right now... and good ole Joe Biden is such a moron, he's only making things worse.


PLEASE... PLEASE send Trump to jail... watch what happens.



The "law" that is most frequently forgotten and broken by Leftoids is "The Law of Unintended Consequences".

Why?

Because, like children, Leftists live primarily in their emotional moment. There is only now. There is no studied look toward the past, and most importantly, no careful consideration of possible future effects or consequences of their own actions.

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That is not what the jury instructions said at all.

What is your source for this?

Each count was completely separate. Trump could have been acquitted on some and convicted on others. But every guilty conviction required a unanimous vote on that specific count.


p. 26
 
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In order to find the defendant
guilty, however, you need not be unanimous on whether the
defendant committed the crime personally, or by acting in concert
with another, or both.


p. 31
 
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Although you must conclude unanimously that the
defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any
person to a public office by unlawful means, you need not be
unanimous
as to what those unlawful means were.

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Originally posted by randye:
The "law" that is most frequently forgotten and broken by Leftoids is "The Law of Unintended Consequences".

Why?

Because, like children, Leftists live primarily in their emotional moment. There is only now. There is no studied look toward the past, and most importantly, no careful consideration of possible future effects or consequences of their own actions.



FredB is gonna want proof.

Reid invokes “nuclear option” to get Obama nominees approved

 
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The Senate has officially voted, 52 to 48, to prevent the minority party from using a filibuster to block judicial and executive branch nominees except for those nominated to the Supreme Court.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., put the rule to a vote Thursday morning. Known as the “nuclear option,” the procedural maneuver allows the majority party to change the Senate rules with a 51-person vote, in this case used to make it more difficult for the minority party to block certain nominees with a filibuster.


Thank you Harry Reid.

TedCruz is incorrect that the rule change could affect a confirmation vote on Gorsuch. As adopted by the Senate in 2013, the new rule does not apply to nominees to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Thank you Harry Reid, we will now change rules as we see fit. Harry Reid, you are responsible for Trump's THREE conservative Supreme Court Justices appointed.

Harry, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
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Originally posted by randye:
The "law" that is most frequently forgotten and broken by Leftoids is "The Law of Unintended Consequences".

Why?

Because, like children, Leftists live primarily in their emotional moment. There is only now. There is no studied look toward the past, and most importantly, no careful consideration of possible future effects or consequences of their own actions.



I've mentioned before that most of my friends are left-leaning. I don't want to get too much into this, because this is a source of consternation. I've mentioned to them many times that people on the left tend to be a lot more "emotional," and this makes them very... well, emotional. So, I've learned to not really bring it up. Generally, I've learned that when people get upset about something you say, it's either because what you've said is true... or it was in very poor taste (haha). But in this case, I think it rings true... "leftists," tend to be more emotional.

If I'm hypothesizing here, my view is that very left-leaning people seem to base their entire personality on that of their political ideology. This is totally weird to me, because to be quite honest, I have literally no affiliation with the Republican party whatsoever. If the Democrats ran JFK Jr., and the Republicans ran Romney again... or worse Liz Cheney... watch how fast I become a Democrat. For some strange reason though, "leftists" base their being on their political ideology. It could be because they don't have any religion, and sometimes also have paternal family issues (and therefore don't have a foundation)... so they find that in their political party. This is a story told for generations... whether it's the rise of the Communist revolutionary party in China, or the Communist party in Russia, or the National Socialist Worker's Party in Germany, etc.

Either way, getting back to your point... yes... it's almost funny. How many times have Democrats opened a door that shouldn't have been opened... only to get completely screwed by it a couple of years later? Like the nuclear option, or judicial appointments... haha... I'm interested to see what happens.


 
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Don't waste your time with him. This is his second account, after first pretending to be a professional lawyer, and more recently pretending to be a high school history teacher. That anyone would create a fake account and come up with a whole "persona" to try to give their ramblings more value... and then do it again after being banned (and from multiple forums, apparently). Well... I think you can come to the same conclusions that I have.


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Former President Trump is not a convicted felon.

According to the leftoid loonies, he is a justice impacted person.
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Originally posted by cliffw:

Former President Trump is not a convicted felon.

According to the leftoid loonies, he is a justice impacted person.


THE IMPACT IS HIS STUPID HEAD HITTING A WALL

his rants will get him more time

he is doing exactly what judges do not want to see

he is earning an extra long term by his hard work
please keep it up

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I guess you will just have to wait and see.
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Trump has raised over 200 million.
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Originally posted by BingB:
That is not what the jury instructions said at all.

What is your source for this?

Each count was completely separate. Trump could have been acquitted on some and convicted on others. But every guilty conviction required a unanimous vote on that specific count.


p. 26

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In order to find the defendant
guilty, however, you need not be unanimous on whether the
defendant committed the crime personally, or by acting in concert
with another, or both.


p. 31

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Although you must conclude unanimously that the
defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any
person to a public office by unlawful means, you need not be
unanimous as to what those unlawful means were.



I admit I was wrong. I did not understand what you were saying. But to answer your original question "Yes, this is exactly how it is supposed to work."

It would be like a theft trial where half of the jury believes he stole it by sneaking through a window and the other half think he stole it by disguising as a cable repairman. As long as they are all sure he stole it then he is guilty of theft.

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