Shooter and one attendee died. I will be interested in finding out how the attendee died. Were they caught in the crossfire or were they trying to stop the shooter?
I don’t think that “target” ad from Palin, or Biden saying Trumps in the cross-hairs has anything to do with this... personally.
Trump got shot because a mentally unwell radical leftist convinced himself (from everything he sees on MSNBC, etc.) that Trump is the next coming of Hitler. There are genuinely people who believe that Trump will bring about the end of the world. None of these things happened when he was President the first time. Some people really do think the world is going to end if Trump wins again. “Fear” should stop being used in political messaging… which the DNC has been #1 at. If it’s not that Republicans will destroy the Earth, it’s that Republicans will bring about end times, lead to slavery again and a real-life Handmaid’s Tale.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I don’t think that “target” ad from Palin, or Biden saying Trumps in the cross-hairs has anything to do with this... personally.
Trump got shot because a mentally unwell radical leftist convinced himself (from everything he sees on MSNBC, etc.) that Trump is the next coming of Hitler. There are genuinely people who believe that Trump will bring about the end of the world. None of these things happened when he was President the first time. Some people really do think the world is going to end if Trump wins again. “Fear” should stop being used in political messaging… which the DNC has been #1 at. If it’s not that Republicans will destroy the Earth, it’s that Republicans will bring about end times, lead to slavery again and a real-life Handmaid’s Tale.
I don't think that particular message from Biden had anything to do with this assassination attempt. It is something the left constantly claims that rhetoric on the right will lead to right wing violence. Yet the actual political violence from the attack on the Republican softball team, months of riots with billions in damages, and now this attempted assassination comes from the left.
If the left are going to use that as a political weapon, then it needs to be thrown right back in their face.
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Originally posted by Doug85GT: I don't think that particular message from Biden had anything to do with this assassination attempt. It is something the left constantly claims that rhetoric on the right will lead to right wing violence. Yet the actual political violence from the attack on the Republican softball team, months of riots with billions in damages, and now this attempted assassination comes from the left.
If the left are going to use that as a political weapon, then it needs to be thrown right back in their face.
Agreed... unfortunately, they aren't as sane. If you've ever spent time at Democratic Underground, the stuff going on right now on that site is crazy. They're either A) upset it wasn't successful, or B) upset that they think it's going to help him. These people truly are mentally unwell... they really believe basically nonsense.
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Originally posted by williegoat:
Trump is like a racecar driver who, after a crash, gets out of his car and lets the crowd know he is still on his feet.
On election night, I want to see him do a few burnouts in "the beast", then climb the fence and run through the stands.
100%!
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Interesting article from Here. It covers what is being seen in this very thread.
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Trump rally shooting breeds social media lies and sick conspiracies. What's wrong with us?
News of a shooting at former President Donald Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania broke Saturday, then descended immediately into the chaotic churn of social media, birthing the kind of lies, conspiracies and speculation that have become our new normal.
What happened was sickening. We didn’t need to wait on specific details to know that. Hearing a crackle of gunfire and watching the presumptive Republican presidential nominee – thankfully OK – swarmed by Secret Service officers, rushed off the stage with blood on his face? It’s unthinkable. It’s not how America is supposed to work.
But what followed, within minutes, was maddening.
Shooting at Trump rally birthed swift social media conspiracies
The chaos of the moment, as is always the case now, was swiftly made worse by speculation blasted out to thousands or millions on X and Facebook and other platforms. It came from every source – random knuckleheads, pundits, lawmakers – deciding in the moment they knew exactly what had happened.
Republican presidential candidate and former U.S. President Donald Trump gestures with a bloodied face as multiple shots rang out during a campaign rally at the Butler Farm Show in Butler, Pennsylvania, on July 13, 2024.
Facts rendered meaningless. Opinions and hot takes elevated to levels that were once the sole realm of actual, reputable news.
It was this person’s fault. It was that person’s fault. You’re to blame. They’re to blame.
Americans' social-media-driven demand for instant answers hurts us all
Trending topics took off with claims of everything from an assassination attempt to a staged event. Unfettered garbage. Cynical manipulations.
Sick, twisted imaginings and attempts at humor – worthless chatter that once had no way to enter the mainstream – were blasted out to a country where, quite literally, everybody has to have a damn opinion in order to grasp at some form of social status.
What is wrong with us? How have we let the drip of conspiracy theories and lies that are part of any society become a firehose?
After the Trump rally shots, there was no waiting around for facts
I don’t know yet exactly what happened at Trump’s rally, beyond the reporting that says the former president is OK, a person at the rally was shot and killed, two others were injured and the shooter is dead. That will change as investigators learn more and share it with the public, but in the wake of the shooting Saturday, that is absolutely the extent of anyone’s knowledge.
This didn’t stop people from extrapolating, from fabricating, from sensationalizing a horrible moment that needed no augmenting. The dearth of facts were quickly backfilled with opportunistic bollocks.
Security personnel inspect the site after gunfire rang out during a campaign rally at the Butler Farm Show in Butler, Pennsylvania, on July 13, 2024. As a journalist, as someone whose entire professional life has been anchored by facts, this out-of-control, all-too-predictable tornado of fiction makes me sick. It has made me sick following more tragic, chaotic moments that I can recall. It made me sick in the past few weeks as everyone and their uncle became an expert on aging and on President Joe Biden’s cognitive state.
But this moment – even though we still don’t know the motive or the full details – is one that demands clarity and unity and care. Damn it, we are one nation, and we can and should, across the board, condemn any form of political violence. Period.
Trump rally shooting should've made us pause, not speculate
And that’s all anyone should have been doing Saturday, from the moment that shocking gunfire erupted and on and on through the night and until Americans know, without question, what the hell happened.
This isn’t a battle. This can’t be us vs. us. We have to reach a moment where we put down our phones and just keep quiet. Just let the facts come out. Just hold back the emotions and the click-thirsty desires and the demand for instant gratification that has led us to this point.
I look forward to every detail of this horrific shooting coming out so we can move forward together and do what Americans should be doing: Make things better.
What happened on social media and across TV screens throughout the country in the wake of this shooting all but certainly made things worse.
This is freaking bonkers. There's no way Trump's reaction to this isn't going to bolster him. Biden can't make it to the bathroom and Trump is over here taking shots. That being said, I don't want to be callous or entirely utilitarian here. I hope he is ok, as it sounds like he is, and I hope whatever led to this is brought to both light and justice. This should shake both Republicans and Democrats to their cores.
Trust the professional journalists. The same ones that say there was a loud noise and then Trump was "injured". This was an assassination attempt which is plain as day to anyone that spent more than 5 minutes looking into it.
