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Some Democrats may be starting to figure out why America voted the way it did. by blackrams
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It appears that a few Dems are figuring out one of the reasons the Biden/Harris agenda was voted down in the most recent election. My guess is that once the President Elect and the new Congress is in office, others will eventually see the light when federal funds stop coming in paying for the Illegal Immigrants.

'They are fed up': Dem mayor's office demands solution on key issue after voters sent 'resounding message'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...4e191d79f85783&ei=30
 
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In response to the Biden administration loosening key immigration restrictions, a spokesperson for New York City Mayor Eric Adams sounded off on the federal government, saying that New Yorkers and Americans are "fed up with our broken immigration system."

The Biden Department of Homeland Security is launching an ICE Portal app in December that will allow migrants to skip their in-person check-ins at an ICE office and instead check in with immigration officials via an app on a phone or computer.

The app reportedly has severe glitching issues and does not track a migrant's location if he or she is using an Android phone or laptop. Further, the app does not check migrants for past arrests or outstanding warrants and allows them to opt out of or contest government orders to undergo electronic tracking.

This comes after the Biden administration set the record for the highest number of illegal migrants entering the country in a single year in 2023, with 3.2 million entries. This surpassed the previous record of 2.7 million set the year before.

Adams has said that New York, which has seen over 220,000 migrants arrive in the city since spring 2022, has been "devastated" by the surge of migrants.

Kayla Altus, a spokesperson for Adams, told Fox News Digital that "cities should not have to carry the cost and burden of a national problem."

"For decades, Washington has endlessly talked about comprehensive reform, but delivered nothing of substance," she said. "This election, the American people sent a resounding message: they are fed up with our broken immigration system."

She said the election, which saw a blowout victory for former President Trump and Republicans gaining unified control of Congress, gave the federal government a clear mandate to fix the immigration problem.

"Democrats and Republicans must come together to pass meaningful immigration reform for the first time in four decades," she said. "That is what’s best for the American people, as well as the immigrants who come here, seeking the opportunity to build a better life and have a shot at the American Dream."

Down in the border city of Laredo, Texas, Mayor Victor Trevino told Fox News Digital that he is working with state and Mexican authorities to prepare for the possibility of another migrant surge before Trump takes office.

He said that although the city currently has "adequate" resources for everyday legal crossings, "no community is equipped enough to handle unnatural surges."

Trevino noted that the city is not equipped for a surge in migrant children as Laredo "does not have a pediatric intensive care unit."

Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, told Fox News Digital that other sanctuary cities like Chicago, Los Angeles and Denver are also struggling with the fiscal costs of the migrant surge. He said that in many instances, illegal migrants are even crowding out resources meant for citizens.

Camarota pointed to testimony he gave to the House Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs in September, in which he listed the fiscal costs to individual sanctuary cities: $12 billion in New York over the next three years on housing, food, health care and other services for recently arrived illegal immigrants, $361 million in Chicago and $36.4 million in Washington, D.C., in 2023, and $180 million in Denver in 2024.

"The real policy that would save the cities’ money is robust enforcement that both increased removals, made people go home, and encourage people to go home on their own," he said. "If you're increasing removals and you've increased just normal outmigration, you could really cut into these numbers and start to save some real money."

Jessica Vaughan, who works as director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, told Fox News Digital that while the murder of nursing student Laken Riley by an illegal immigrant has garnered lots of attention, she said that tragic stories like that are not isolated but rather part of a larger patten.

"Only ICE knows for sure how often someone who's released by a sanctuary has been subsequently arrested for another crime," she said. "There's a human cost to the sanctuary policies and there is no reasonable law enforcement or public safety or even community trust justification for having this policy. It is political and it has to stop."


I would still support sending every "Illegal/Undocumented Aliens" back to Mexico, not the country of origin. Mexico helped facilitate this problem, let them handle it.
It doesn't seem to matter when it comes to crimes against individuals to get politicians attention but, money most surely does.

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Originally posted by blackrams:

It appears that a few Dems are figuring out one of the reasons the Biden/Harris agenda was voted down in the most recent election. My guess is that once the President Elect and the new Congress is in office, others will eventually see the light when federal funds stop coming in paying for the Illegal Immigrants.

'They are fed up': Dem mayor's office demands solution on key issue after voters sent 'resounding message'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...4e191d7 9f85783&ei=30

I would still support sending every "Illegal/Undocumented Aliens" back to Mexico, not the country of origin. Mexico helped facilitate this problem, let them handle it.
It doesn't seem to matter when it comes to crimes against individuals to get politicians attention but, money most surely does.




Yeah, it's tough... because I'm sure many of them are or want to be hard working, so I'm torn. But they came here illegally, and the Democrats facilitated it. How many people died as a result? Either crimes committed here in the US, or people dying along the way?

The problem is that we're paying for it...


God, you know... when I look at all the crazy things Democrats have said over the past 4 years.

- Remember when Democrats said the national debt didn't matter, because we can just print more money? And they were serious? Republicans have been just as bad at money management, but it's crazy that we got to that point.

- Remember when Democrats said that crime wasn't being caused by illegal immigrants? And then when that was proven wrong, many states with the worst crime stopped tracking it and reporting it, so the FBI said crime had gone down, and people believed it?

- Remember when Democrats told us that these "caravans" coming across the border were being over-exaggerated, and that it was the right-wing media making them out to be something they weren't? And... they didn't start paying attention until Governor Greg Abbot started bussing them to liberal states?

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Yeah, it's tough... because I'm sure many of them are or want to be hard working, so I'm torn. But they came here illegally, and the Democrats facilitated it. How many people died as a result? Either crimes committed here in the US, or people dying along the way?

The problem is that we're paying for it...


God, you know... when I look at all the crazy things Democrats have said over the past 4 years.

- Remember when Democrats said the national debt didn't matter, because we can just print more money? And they were serious? Republicans have been just as bad at money management, but it's crazy that we got to that point.

- Remember when Democrats said that crime wasn't being caused by illegal immigrants? And then when that was proven wrong, many states with the worst crime stopped tracking it and reporting it, so the FBI said crime had gone down, and people believed it?

- Remember when Democrats told us that these "caravans" coming across the border were being over-exaggerated, and that it was the right-wing media making them out to be something they weren't? And... they didn't start paying attention until Governor Greg Abbot started bussing them to liberal states?


Yes, I remember.

I'm still waiting for those who supported the Biden/Harris agenda to stand up and volunteer to take some of these Biden/Harris invitees into their own homes. I also remember when an illegal alien invaded and tried to kill Pelosi's husband. While certainly a slightly different situation, the attacker was still here in blatant disregard to our Immigration Policies. Yet, the folks were horrified at the crime but, little was mentioned about the attackers immigration status.

I'll be impressed when those supporting the policies of Biden/Harris take a few of those illegal aliens into their own homes and start supporting them on their paychecks and not mine.

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Originally linked by blackrams:
... others will eventually see the light when federal funds stop coming in paying for the Illegal Immigrants.


The perfect way to implement self deportation.

'They are fed up': Dem mayor's office demands solution on key issue after voters sent 'resounding message'

 
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York City Mayor Eric Adams sounded off on the federal government, saying that New Yorkers and Americans are "fed up with our broken immigration system."


York City Mayor Eric Adams might be able to speak for New Yorkers but he does not speak for me.

Broken immigration system ? What a tired phrase. What is broken about it ?

 
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Kayla Altus, a spokesperson for Adams, told Fox News Digital that "cities should not have to carry the cost and burden of a national problem."

"For decades, Washington has endlessly talked about comprehensive reform, but delivered nothing of substance," she said. "This election, the American people sent a resounding message: they are fed up with our broken immigration system."


What do they think would be something of substance ? They want amnesty and allow all illegal aliens to be granted American citizenship.


 
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Kayla Altus, a spokesperson for Adams, said the election, which saw a blowout victory for former President Trump and Republicans gaining unified control of Congress, gave the federal government a clear mandate to fix the immigration problem.

"Democrats and Republicans must come together to pass meaningful immigration reform for the first time in four decades," she said. "That is what’s best for the American people, as well as the immigrants who come here, seeking the opportunity to build a better life and have a shot at the American Dream."


Meaningful immigration reform would be to deny anyone immigration status for ten years if they entered illegally.

Que the "think of the children" argument. Cry me a river. Children have been separated from their parents by illegal aliens. They more often come here without them.
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