Have a good evening, Patrick. I do understand that regardless of what is said or, who says it, you want the last word so, with that. Have a good night.
I will say, as a Canadian that crosses the border very often (and have crossed at many different locations in Ontario and New Brunswick) the Canadian side is the stringent one, at least everywhere I've crossed, I've never been searched by the US side, never had to pay any tax on importations (shipping something from the US is cheaper than from Canada), and yet I've been searched on the Canadian side about a dozen times, they are very strict on the rules, $20 or more and I have to go inside to pay the taxes, etc. I've heard that US border guards must first serve on the Mexican border for several years before being able to be "promoted" to the Canadian border, as such they become very relaxed and laid back, like they are watching YouTube on the computers in their little box, ask where you're going, swipe the passport, say "have a good day" and that's it.
Originally posted by Patrick: So, which item are you contesting? That Trump said "Grab them by the pussy", or that Trump was screwing Stormy Daniels (while Melania was pregnant with Barron!)?
If I was a Trump supporter, I'd be in deep denial as well.
I am not in denial. You are still touting left wing propaganda.
Why, all of a sudden am I seeing Ontario Canada ads down here in south Texas touting how valuable they are to us ?
I will say, as a Canadian that crosses the border very often (and have crossed at many different locations in Ontario and New Brunswick) the Canadian side is the stringent one, at least everywhere I've crossed, I've never been searched by the US side, never had to pay any tax on importations (shipping something from the US is cheaper than from Canada), and yet I've been searched on the Canadian side about a dozen times, they are very strict on the rules, $20 or more and I have to go inside to pay the taxes, etc. I've heard that US border guards must first serve on the Mexican border for several years before being able to be "promoted" to the Canadian border, as such they become very relaxed and laid back, like they are watching YouTube on the computers in their little box, ask where you're going, swipe the passport, say "have a good day" and that's it.
Been a long time since I crossed either border. So, will take your word on this.
I will say, as a Canadian that crosses the border very often (and have crossed at many different locations in Ontario and New Brunswick) the Canadian side is the stringent one, at least everywhere I've crossed, I've never been searched by the US side.
I've heard that US border guards must first serve on the Mexican border for several years before being able to be "promoted" to the Canadian border, as such they become very relaxed and laid back, like they are watching YouTube on the computers in their little box, ask where you're going, swipe the passport, say "have a good day" and that's it.
Yes, that lends support to what I had posted on the previous page.
Mark Weber, national president of the Customs and Immigration Union, the union that represents staff and officers of the Canada Border Services Agency, said how "leaky" the border is depends on which way the issue is defined.
"If we're talking about things getting into the U.S., that's not really our prerogative to be dealing with those," Weber told the Calgary Eyeopener.
"I think there's a little bit of confusion about which way the enforcement should be happening."
"The U.S. secures their border, and we secure ours."
Trump and his supporters seem to have some difficulty comprehending this simple concept.
Y'all can read this on yer own but, all I'm gonna say is all those folks got there and were apparently welcomed with open arms by the Trudeau folks. My question, if you're not able to send them to us, what ya gonna do?
Edited: Yeah, I slipped back into my country way of speaking but the question still stands. Not attempting to throw stones here, we've had our own leadership issues but, I am interested in what you intend to do with all those temporary visa holders now?
Rams
[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 12-04-2024).]
...all those folks got there and were apparently welcomed with open arms by the Trudeau folks. My question, if you're not able to send them to us, what ya gonna do?
I am interested in what you intend to do with all those temporary visa holders now?
These people were welcomed to Canada as temporary workers and/or as students. Canada has no obligation to keep them here beyond whatever the original agreement was. When their visas expire, they'll be required to go home. What part of this do you not understand?
These people were welcomed to Canada as temporary workers and/or as students. Canada has no obligation to keep them here beyond whatever the original agreement was. When their visas expire, they'll be required to go home. What part of this do you not understand?
Ya know, you do bring up a good point, I don't know (for sure) that the US is/was the ultimate intended destination. Personally, I don't believe there was a plan to deal with all those "temporary Visa holders". Given time, most of those folks would have moved south, again just my opinion. I would be interested to learn the reason for such a large-scale immigration to Canada. If you could enlighten me, please do.
These people were welcomed to Canada as temporary workers and/or as students. Canada has no obligation to keep them here beyond whatever the original agreement was. When their visas expire, they'll be required to go home. What part of this do you not understand?
To be completely honest... I've often heard that people go to Canada first, try to get citizenship there, and then move to the United States second, because they were unable to get citizenship in the U.S.. Apparently it's harder to get a U.S. citizenship, unless you're coming over illegally, in which case we pay for everything, and even give you free healthcare. If you try to do it legally, you're on your own. But yeah, a lot of people go to Canada first, either on student visa, or work visa, etc... and then try to get U.S. citizenship from there (where they had been previously denied by the U.S. from their home country).
Many people seem to do this... Elon Musk is one person in particular that comes to mind.
To be completely honest... I've often heard that people go to Canada first, try to get citizenship there, and then move to the United States second, because they were unable to get citizenship in the U.S.
I hate to break this to you Todd, but emigrating to the US is not the be-all end-all favored destination of every person on the planet. Perhaps it feels that way with desperate people from Central America trying to sneak across your southern border, but other countries on the planet, including Canada, have plenty to offer.
quote
Originally posted by blackrams:
Given time, most of those folks would have moved south, again just my opinion.
See above.
quote
Originally posted by blackrams:
I would be interested to learn the reason for such a large-scale immigration to Canada.
If you had ever spent any time travelling in Canada, you might already know. That's not meant as a barb, it's just a forthright response.
[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 12-05-2024).]
I hate to break this to you Todd, but emigrating to the US is not the be-all end-all favored destination of every person on the planet. Perhaps it feels that way with desperate people from Central America trying to sneak across your southern border, but other countries on the planet, including Canada, have plenty to offer.
Man, I tried to think of ways I could say that where it wouldn't be taken offensively. You have no reason not to be proud of Canada as a Canadian citizen. But that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people go through Canada to eventually get to the United States... it's usually more white collar, if it makes you feel better. But it's just what it is... no reason to be offended by this, and I certainly wasn't saying anything that should make you take it that way.
If you had ever spent any time travelling in Canada, you might already know. That's not meant as a barb, it's just a forthright response.
Been there, done that (some). I like it here a whole lot more and that's not meant as a barb either. Actually have an uncle that married a Canadian lady and stayed up there so she could be near her family. I would like to ride that train that goes through the Canadian Rockies but, it's a bit of a stretch for me financially with all the other irons I have in the fire.
Rams
[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 12-05-2024).]
But it's just what it is... no reason to be offended by this, and I certainly wasn't saying anything that should make you take it that way.
"no reason to be offended by this". Believe me, I wasn't. If anything, I think it's rather humorous how so many Americans think the US is the ultimate goal of every person wishing to emigrate. Yes, the US is the land of opportunity for many... but it's not the only place where one can live comfortably and prosper.
"no reason to be offended by this". Believe me, I wasn't. If anything, I think it's rather humorous how so many Americans think the US is the ultimate goal of every person wishing to emigrate. Yes, the US is the land of opportunity for many... but it's not the only place where one can live comfortably and prosper.
Patrick... both my parents come from other countries. I've been around the world more times than I can count, and have family living on every continent except the polar caps. I'm well aware of the fact that you can make a living and prosper in MOST countries.
But the FACT is, that there have been numerous polls that have been taken around the world... and there's some resounding number... like over 80% of people around the world would come live in America if given the chance. Oddly enough, nearly 1/4th of Americans would go live somewhere else if given the chance. But yes... "the US is the ultimate goal of ALMOST every person wishing to emigrate."
I think Canada is beautiful... I really do... but the majority of the population lives on the border of the United States...
That can be either one of two things:
- Canada's success is directly applicable to the success of the United States, and people live on the border because it's closer to the U.S. for shipping and commerce (historically). - Or because it's cold as **** and they're desperately trying to get closer to the equator (which is why we get so many people from Ontario and Quebec in South Florida.
But I don't want to bash them... I like a lot about it... they gave us hockey, Tim Horton's Coffee, William Shatner, Being Erica (don't laugh at me), Trailer Park Boys, Poutine, and a place to record most of the X-Files episodes. There's plenty of other stuff too but I can't think of it... oil I guess.
- Canada's success is directly applicable to the success of the United States, and people live on the border because it's closer to the U.S. for shipping and commerce (historically). - Or because it's cold as **** and they're desperately trying to get closer to the equator (which is why we get so many people from Ontario and Quebec in South Florida.
But I don't want to bash them... I like a lot about it... they gave us hockey, Tim Horton's Coffee, William Shatner, Being Erica (don't laugh at me), Trailer Park Boys, Poutine, and a place to record most of the X-Files episodes. There's plenty of other stuff too but I can't think of it... oil I guess.
Agreed on the abounding beauty of Canada as a whole. I also agree with the two reasons mentioned although, I am a bit confused, what's this "Hockey" you speak of?
Rams
[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 12-06-2024).]
It's just upside down lacrosse. My school didn't have a lot of options for sports (soccer, basketball, baseball). So when my son joined the lacrosse team at his high school, I went to the games and was completely confused by the rules/play. So asking a ton of questions about what is going on, another father just said "it's just hockey played in the air".
...there have been numerous polls that have been taken around the world... and there's some resounding number... like over 80% of people around the world would come live in America if given the chance.
Never underestimate the power of Hollywood (especially during the golden era)... and I'm being 100% serious.
It's just upside down lacrosse. My school didn't have a lot of options for sports (soccer, basketball, baseball). So when my son joined the lacrosse team at his high school, I went to the games and was completely confused by the rules/play. So asking a ton of questions about what is going on, another father just said "it's just hockey played in the air".
Having never been exposed to Lacrosse, all I can say is, OK. I attended a very small school district, we had football (every male in the school was needed to make up the team), basketball and track. At one time we had baseball but, that got dropped due to low participation and attendance of the games.
Hahah... don't trash hockey. It's an awesome sport.
When I was in middle school, I was on the hockey team, but the coach didn't want me because I couldn't stop. I could make goals, but I could never stop... I'd have to eventually hit a wall or keep going until I slowed down.
He passed me off to the ski team, and that's where I really shined... I was on team France... which, embarrassingly, was the #1 team. No idea why in a boarding school in the U.S., they didn't make "Team America" the #1 skilled team. Like... why would they make it "Team France?" No one on the team was even from France. It was me, a dude from Sweden who's parents owned a chocolate factory, a kid from Japan, and then a bunch of other rich kids (I was not, but my dad's work paid for it).
Anyway, I do love hockey... not sure I understand why we have an odd number of quarters (called periods), but it works. Lots of strategy to it... and it's a lot like soccer in that people are constantly on the move... except you don't get prima-donnas who clutch their leg when someone brushes by them. They get pissed and the gloves drop, and they start fighting. So it's kind of like adding boxing into the game as well. And then when they're bad, they have to go into a penalty box, which is hilarious...
quote
Originally posted by Patrick:
Never underestimate the power of Hollywood (especially during the golden era)... and I'm being 100% serious.
You're not wrong... it's single-handedly what helped propel America's popularity after WW2.
Hahah... don't trash hockey. It's an awesome sport.
SNIP
Anyway, I do love hockey... not sure I understand why we have an odd number of quarters (called periods), but it works. Lots of strategy to it... and it's a lot like soccer in that people are constantly on the move... except you don't get prima-donnas who clutch their leg when someone brushes by them. They get pissed and the gloves drop, and they start fighting. So it's kind of like adding boxing into the game as well. And then when they're bad, they have to go into a penalty box, which is hilarious...
Not being exposed to Hockey in my youth obviously plays a part of why I am not a fan. I really don't understand why they don't start with a fight and then let those still standing skate around chasing that puck thing.
They get pissed and the gloves drop, and they start fighting. So it's kind of like adding boxing into the game as well.
Fighting is being phased out of the National Hockey League (and therefore the minor leagues as well). Too many of the major pugilists have been dying relatively young after retirement from hockey due to repeated brain trauma incurred while playing/fighting.* Lawsuits are forcing the game to change. There will continue to be the occasional scuffle during the heat of the action, but premeditated bouts at center ice are becoming a thing of the past. I enjoy watching a hard hitting game, but the goon shows were a disgrace, and the sport of hockey is better off without that nonsense.
* An article about the demise of one the toughest "enforcers" in the NHL - Fall of the Boogeyman
[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 12-07-2024).]
Fighting is being phased out of the National Hockey League (and therefore the minor leagues as well). Too many of the major pugilists have been dying relatively young after retirement from hockey due to repeated brain trauma incurred while playing/fighting.* Lawsuits are forcing the game to change. There will continue to be the occasional scuffle during the heat of the action, but premeditated bouts at center ice are becoming a thing of the past. I enjoy watching a hard hitting game, but the goon shows were a disgrace, and the sport of hockey is better off without that nonsense.
* An article about the demise of one the toughest "enforcers" in the NHL - Fall of the Boogeyman
Yeah, I agree with you. I don't particularly LIKE the fights... I do like it when the opposing team get into a triangle and they're terrorizing the goalie though!!!
I would suggest that those ads are probably more locally done due to who their fans might be but, not being a close border state (TN), I have not heard or seen any such ads.
Reference the proposed tariffs, no one should be surprised that these tariffs are going to cost both nations something. The foolish policies put in place by the Biden/Harris administration have to be reversed if both nations are to affect the issues. It's unfortunate it's taking DJT's threats to get cooperation from Canadian and Mexican leaders but, those threats have gotten their attention. I expect border security to be upped significantly in the near future.
Now, if DJT can get all NATO members to pull their agreed to fair share of the load, we'll all be better off.
Rams
[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 12-10-2024).]
Originally posted by blackrams: I would suggest that those ads are probably more locally done due to who their fans might be but, not being a close border state (TN), I have not heard or seen any such ads.
Ron, this thread, Dec 4th.
quote
Originally posted by cliffw: Why, all of a sudden am I seeing Ontario Canada ads down here in south Texas touting how valuable they are to us ?
Thanks for telling me about that. Hadn't noticed before.
Seems to me that money would be better/more wisely spent on NATO or Border Security although, it's not all that much money in the bigger scheme of things.
Originally posted by blackrams: ... although, it's not all that much money in the bigger scheme of things. Rams
Tell that to the Canadian taxpayers. Yet, the Canadian's have an awful amount of money to lose. It's called taxpayer revenue to the Canadian government.
