Patrick, The person responsible may be Mr. Ford, I can't say but, the Wikipedia post doesn't say anything about those ads and who is responsible. (At least no where that I could find it, after the third page, I gave up reading.) While you may be correct, the Wiki post is not conducive to knowing anything about the ads or who is responsible. I am not saying Ford isn't but, that Wiki post doesn't verify anything. IF such an allegation is accurate, please point it out to me and where I missed it in the link you provided.
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The premier of Canada's most populous province on Wednesday threatened to cut off energy supplies to the U.S. if President-elect Donald Trump implements his proposed tariffs on Canadian goods. This bold move highlights the escalating tensions between the two nations as they grapple with potential trade conflicts.
"We will go to the full extent depending how far this goes. We will go to the extent of cutting off their energy, going down to Michigan, going down to New York State and over to Wisconsin," Ontario Premier Doug Ford said during a press conference following a virtual meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and other provincial premiers to discuss Trump's tariff threat. "I don't want this to happen, but my No. 1 job is to protect Ontario, Ontarians and Canadians as a whole since we're the largest province."
Trump in November threatened to impose a blanket 25% tariff on all products from Canada and Mexico unless the two countries take action to curb the flow of drugs and unauthorized migrants to the U.S.
The Canadian government said it was considering spending the equivalent of more than $700 million to better protect the border. In a bid to avert new U.S. tariffs, the plan would increase the number of officers and buy additional equipment, such as helicopters and drones, to tighten border crossings.
Ford said his province, Canada's federal minister of finance and other provinces will put together a list of items on which the country could impose retaliatory tariffs against the U.S.
"We need to be ready to fight. This fight is 100% coming on Jan. 20 or Jan. 21," he said to reporters, referencing Trump's inauguration date, "and we don't know to what extent this fight is going to go."
Both Canada and U.S. would lose
Analysts warn that dueling tariffs would harm both the U.S. and Canadian economies. Canada provides natural gas to the U.S. and roughly 20% of the crude oil used by its southern neighbor. Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis at GasBuddy, has forecast that U.S. gas prices could jump 30 to 40 cents a gallon, and potentially up to 70 cents, shortly after Trump's tariffs took effect.
In 2023, Ontario also directly supplied electricity to 1.5 million U.S. homes and is a major exporter of power to Michigan, Minnesota and New York.
Midwestern states in particular could face serious risks if Trump's plan for tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China goes into effect. Michigan and Illinois rely heavily on imports from Canada, Mexico, and China, which account for 19% and 12% of their state GDPs, respectively, according to analysts at Fitch Ratings Group. Michigan, which produces nearly 19% of vehicles sold in the U.S., particularly depends on cross-border trade. Meanwhile, Illinois, home to the fourth-largest crude oil refinery in the country, sources most of its crude oil from Canada.
"If enacted precisely as proposed, the broad tariffs proposed by President-elect Trump could pose a notable economic shock with tariff rates rising to levels not seen in the U.S. since the Great Depression," according to a recent analysis by Fitch.
Experts also warn that stiff U.S. tariffs would likely push the Canadian economy into a recession in 2025, causing a spike in inflation and forcing the Bank of Canada to pause interest rate cuts next year. According to a recent report from Michael Davenport, an economist with Oxford Economics, Canada's energy, auto and heavy manufacturing sectors would be hit hardest because of the high degree of cross-border trade in these industries.
"25% U.S. tariffs along with proportional retaliatory tariffs would reduce Canada's exports and cause its GDP to fall 2.5% peak-to-trough by early-2026. Inflation would surge to 7.2% by mid-2025, and 150,000 layoffs would lift the unemployment rate to 7.9% by year-end," Davenport said.
During his first term in office, Trump imposed tariff on Canadian steel and aluminum exports. Canada retaliated with its own duties on U.S products such as whiskey and yogurt coming from a plant in Wisconsin.
While I agree that tariffs by both sides will be a challenge to both countries, I have no doubts about which country would feel the end results the most. While the US does like getting 20% of it's oil from Canada, our own oil industry would quickly make up the difference after Jan 20th when policies change. So, all I can really say is, Canada, it's time to start pulling your share of the load or............................
Mexico is a different challenge IMO but, I'm confident DJT will get their attention sooner than later.
Rams
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While you may be correct, the Wiki post is not conducive to knowing anything about the ads or who is responsible.
That link was simply to supply some background on the political party affiliation (Conservative) of the premier of Ontario.
If for some reason you doubt that the government of Ontario is behind those ads, a Google search would've quickly proven otherwise. What possible reason would I lie about it?
Ontario has launched a multi-million dollar US ad campaign, touting itself as an "ally to the north" following Donald Trump's threat of tariffs on all Canadian goods.
President-elect Trump has said he would impose a 25% tariff on all Canadian and Mexican goods on his first day in office unless both countries secured their shared borders with the US.
Ontario Premier Doug Ford called the tariff threat similar to “a family member stabbing you right in the heart”.
The province, which is at the heart of the highly integrated auto industry in Canada, would be especially hard hit by the threatened levy. Trade between Ontario and the US totalled more than C$493bn ($350bn) in 2023.
The 60-second ad launched on Monday will run throughout the holiday season in the US, including on Fox News and during National Football League games.
It will also appear at Washington DC airports and later on billboards and digitally on the Fox Sports app in key US states.
The ad opens with the line: “For generations, this ally to the North has been by your side: Ontario, Canada, a partner connected by shared history, shared values and a shared vision for what we can achieve together."
It notes that Ontario - which has a population of 16 million people - is the third largest trading partner with the US and the primary export destination for 17 states.
The provincial trade minister, Vic Fedeli, told Global News on Monday that 100 million viewers are going to see the commercial "and even more on Monday Night Football".
The ad campaign has been in the works for months, Ontario officials said, and is part of an outreach to US lawmakers.
Trump's tariff threat has set off alarm bells in Canada, and experts warn that it would also have serious implications for American industries, including auto manufacturers, farmers and food packagers.
Mexico, China and Canada together account for more than a third of the goods and services both imported and exported by the US, supporting tens of millions of American jobs.
It remains unclear whether the incoming administration will move ahead with the tariffs, as analysts note that Trump has been known to use such threats as a negotiating tactic.
On Friday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had dinner with Trump at the president-elect's Mar-a-Lago resort as he seeks to head off the hefty tariffs.
Trump called the dinner a "very productive meeting" and Trudeau described it as an "excellent conversation".
That link was simply to supply some background on the political party affiliation (Conservative) of the premier of Ontario.
If for some reason you doubt that the government of Ontario is behind those ads, a Google search would've quickly proven otherwise. What possible reason would I lie about it?
Ontario has launched a multi-million dollar US ad campaign, touting itself as an "ally to the north" following Donald Trump's threat of tariffs on all Canadian goods.
President-elect Trump has said he would impose a 25% tariff on all Canadian and Mexican goods on his first day in office unless both countries secured their shared borders with the US.
Ontario Premier Doug Ford called the tariff threat similar to “a family member stabbing you right in the heart”.
The province, which is at the heart of the highly integrated auto industry in Canada, would be especially hard hit by the threatened levy. Trade between Ontario and the US totalled more than C$493bn ($350bn) in 2023.
The 60-second ad launched on Monday will run throughout the holiday season in the US, including on Fox News and during National Football League games.
It will also appear at Washington DC airports and later on billboards and digitally on the Fox Sports app in key US states.
The ad opens with the line: “For generations, this ally to the North has been by your side: Ontario, Canada, a partner connected by shared history, shared values and a shared vision for what we can achieve together."
It notes that Ontario - which has a population of 16 million people - is the third largest trading partner with the US and the primary export destination for 17 states.
The provincial trade minister, Vic Fedeli, told Global News on Monday that 100 million viewers are going to see the commercial "and even more on Monday Night Football".
The ad campaign has been in the works for months, Ontario officials said, and is part of an outreach to US lawmakers.
Trump's tariff threat has set off alarm bells in Canada, and experts warn that it would also have serious implications for American industries, including auto manufacturers, farmers and food packagers.
Mexico, China and Canada together account for more than a third of the goods and services both imported and exported by the US, supporting tens of millions of American jobs.
It remains unclear whether the incoming administration will move ahead with the tariffs, as analysts note that Trump has been known to use such threats as a negotiating tactic.
On Friday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had dinner with Trump at the president-elect's Mar-a-Lago resort as he seeks to head off the hefty tariffs.
Trump called the dinner a "very productive meeting" and Trudeau described it as an "excellent conversation".
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Patrick, I did not suggest you lied. Read my post again. But, the point stands that an implied relationship existed between your claim and the presented link. If it did, I would have not posted what I did. Feel free to correct me if, I'm wrong.
Additionally, I shouldn't have to and won't research to prove your point. That's all on you.
But, the point stands that an implied relationship existed between your claim and the presented link. If it did, I would have not posted what I did. Feel free to correct me if, I'm wrong.
You've been corrected.
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Additionally, I shouldn't have to and won't research to prove your point. That's all on you.
And I supplied you with a news report. What more do you want?
Originally posted by Patrick: You've been corrected.
And I supplied you with a news report. What more do you want?
Conflicting statements now? Going to find another news report does not change what you initially posted. What do I want? Well, posting links that directly support the statement you made which, wasn't even close. Roll your eyes all you want, doesn't really matter to me.
Oh and BTW, the second news posting is very skewed. Was the speaker sitting at the table, participating or listening to President Elect Trump's and "Governor Trudeau's conversation? I don't think so. Therefore, his interpretation of what was said is questionable.
Facts, verifiable facts are kind of important, not opinions or guesswork. I understand that Canadians are upset with the focus now. If I were guilty, I would not like the attention either.
I suspect MAGA supporters won't like and/or watch this, but don't say you weren't warned about the folly of Trump imposing tariffs.
OK, couple of things:
1 - Why do stupid YouTubers put "arrows" on the front of their video previews? There are two people on the front... is there any question who Donald Trump is? What kind of people is this video geared towards that they don't know who Donald Trump is today?
2 - The guy starts off saying Trump is losing. Trump isn't even President, and yet, Trudeau agreed to work with Trump on a solution... explain logically how Trump is "already losing?"
3 - This is a simple game of chicken... either Trudeau complies and Trump wins, or Trudeau does nothing and Trump loses. Do you really think that Trump is going to lose this fight? It's a simple matter of who it's going to hurt more. ... and let's expand on that below:
Trump is threatening tariffs on Canadian products. Not vice versa... but if we're being honest, Canada already has tariffs on American products by means of taxing things that are not made in Canada... which violated NAFTA, and why we passed the USMCA anyway.
Trump intends to lower prices all around by dramatically increasing oil production, which he can do in somewhat of a short order (of 6 months) by opening all Federal lands to drilling and fracking, which Biden has largely closed and banned fracking on Federal lands. But in addition to this, we will still have oil coming from Canada. Trump obviously won't put tariffs on Canadian oil. And ... Canada is not going to say... "We want you to also put tariffs on Canadian oil" ... regardless... oil is traded internationally and the price is largely based on the markets that purchase from it. So, Trump will very likely be able to lower the cost of products because EVEN early oil production, if not immediately adding to the supply, will affect oil futures, lowering the price.
So we really just need to look at the hard numbers of who this will affect more. The United States has a lot of options from where it can purchase products. The money COMES from the United States, not the other way around... so... I think this is quite simple, it will affect Canada much more than it will the United States... and I think Canadians know this. I think Trudeau knows this too... and I'm quite sure that he's not willing to let it happen ... if not longer than a couple of weeks, because then smaller businesses will start to go under, and it will affect the supply-chain longer term... which would wreck havoc on Canada's economy... all while, non-essentials just cost us a bit more... or even WORSE for Canada... U.S. retailers start changing their suppliers from other countries... which then causes irrevocable damage to Canada's long-term economy and many of their businesses.
My money is on the United States, and don't think for a second that Trump hasn't thought this out. You can think him a complete moron, but I know he meets regularly with Stephen Moore and other investment hawks, including Larry Kudlow. Trump had the greatest economy in the history of the United States in 2019. So don't think this is some crack-pot idea he came up with all his own without significant thought on the potential ramifications. My money is on the United States here... and I think you know how this plays out too.
And I'd prefer not to see Trump's ugly mug on my TV... so I guess we're both ticked.
That's an issue you can bring up to your Canadian stations. I'm not aware of any US state spending $$$ to send targeted Trump ads to Canada viewers.
There's a REASON Canada is raising all this hell about the tariffs, and the US isn't, and it isn't to be a nice guy in pointing out how bad it would be for the US.
I'm not aware of any US state spending $$$ to send targeted Trump ads to Canada viewers.
There's no need to. As with other disasters, he's already on the news every day.
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There's a REASON Canada is raising all this hell about the tariffs, and the US isn't...
Oh? Perhaps watch the video I posted. It originates from the US. Plenty of Americans can see how damaging a tariff war would be for the US... and yes, for Canada as well.
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Originally posted by maryjane:
...and it isn't to be a nice guy in pointing out how bad it would be for the US.
This has gone well beyond anyone being "a nice guy" about the situation.
"On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform."
Well, let's all hope that "Governor Trudeau" takes it seriously and gets with the program. I feel certain President Trump will beef up the US side of the border. That doesn't mean the border will get locked down and all illegal migration and drug traffic will be stopped but, I have no doubt it'll slow down. I sincerely believe most US citizens are prepared to accept the consequences of what tariffs will do but, if the proposed tariffs get the cooperation of bordering countries, then it's worth the cost to us.
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Anyone who's watched the Ontario government's ad would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to realize it was a Ontario government ad.
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Conflicting statements now? Going to find another news report does not change what you initially posted. What do I want? Well, posting links that directly support the statement you made which, wasn't even close.
I'll make this real easy for you. I won't even ask you to scroll to the top of the page. No point having you get lost. I've copied the post below. You'll notice that the first red arrow I've added is pointing at the word "Ontario". So right off the bat, it's been made absolutely clear who's behind that video. Why anyone would then require some proof from me that the government of Ontario is behind this video is rather bizarre. It's not like it was any sort of covert operation.
I'll now bring your attention to the second red arrow I've added. It's pointed at the word "socialist", which was purposely bolded by me when I created that post. I then supplied a link to the political party affiliation of the Ontario government for maryjane's perusal, which indicated the Ontario government is a right-wing Conservative government... quite the opposite of the type of government that maryjane had mentioned.
Ron, your whacked out comments regarding "conflicting statements" make absolutely no sense at all.
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Oh and BTW, the second news posting is very skewed. Was the speaker sitting at the table, participating or listening to President Elect Trump's and "Governor Trudeau's conversation? I don't think so. Therefore, his interpretation of what was said is questionable.
It's an opinion piece, done by an American. No, he wasn't sitting at the table with President Clown Elect Trump and Prime Minister Trudeau. There was no need to in order to speculate on how the implementation of tariffs will potentially affect the US.
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If I were guilty, I would not like the attention either.
"guilty"? Guilty of what? The only thing I'm "guilty" of is wasting my time in P&R.
If I were you, I wouldn't like the "attention" your totally nonsensical deductions are attracting.
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OK, not able to admit when you're wrong. Again, your first posting that I was discussing had nothing to do with your statement. Since you either can't admit it or possibly not see the error, I'll let you keep thinking you got one over on us/me. Really doesn't matter. All the other things the post above states only is simply distraction you're throwing out since you can't admit making the error. Doesn't matter to me. I and everyone else on this forum sees it.
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OK, not able to admit when you're wrong. Again, your first posting that I was discussing had nothing to do with your statement.
This is like arguing with a petulant child. You've somehow misconstrued the post at the top of the page, and even after it's been repeatedly explained to you, you refuse to acknowledge that you've completely misunderstood it.
Yeah, keep laughing... it makes you look even sillier... if that's actually possible.
All the "stuff" that you've posted after the post I've been discussing may be supporting information. But, refusal to see or ignoring the point I made and admit that what I posted was correct only makes you look worse. Your choice. Have a good day.
As I previously stated:
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Have a good evening, Patrick. I do understand that regardless of what is said or, who says it, you want the last word so, with that. Have a good night.
Rams
Rams
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This is like arguing with a petulant child. You've somehow misconstrued the post at the top of the page, and even after it's been repeatedly explained to you, you refuse to acknowledge that you've completely misunderstood it.
You're back to just making up stuff to fit your narrative.
No, I'm not just making stuff up to fit a narrative. Your comment is kind of silly. Why would Trump put tariffs on Canadian oil imports? This is just common sense...
When Obama put restriction and sanctions on Russia, he did so for EVERYTHING except Soyuz rockets. This was a source of pride for Russia, and they were only too happy to continue to launch our astronauts into space while we punished them on everything else.
Ok... as I said, this was just common sense. But I found this article for you where energy experts in Canada seem to agree with me...
Your comment is kind of silly. Why would Trump put tariffs on Canadian oil imports? This is just common sense...
No one, but no one outside of hardcore MAGA supporters would ever suggest that Trump has any "common sense". He said what he said.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
When Obama put restriction and sanctions on Russia, he did so for EVERYTHING except Soyuz rockets. This was a source of pride for Russia, and they were only too happy to continue to launch our astronauts into space while we punished them on everything else.
I don't know what point you might be trying to make, but the US had no other means of getting US astronauts to the International Space Station.
Maybe you should try finding an article which "agrees" with you that was written after Trump announced a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States from Canada (and Mexico). lol
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No one, but no one outside of hardcore MAGA supporters would ever suggest that Trump has any "common sense". He said what he said.
Patrick, you're going to have to get over this... or the next 4 years are going to be miserable for you. Trump's not going to put tariffs on Canadian oil, he needs it to lower the cost of transport across the country which directly correlates with lower product prices. Obviously you know this. I know you like to argue, but this is getting silly.
Trump's not going to put tariffs on Canadian oil, he needs it to lower the cost of transport across the country which directly correlates with lower product prices.
So in other words... Trump hasn't even taken office yet, and he's already caving. What a clown!
"On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform."
So in other words... Trump hasn't even taken office yet, and he's already caving. What a clown!
Sure, if that makes you feel better. Is that what this is? Like... not trying to talk down to you... but what exactly is your point?
Also, oil is generally not considered a "product" unless you're referring to it from the primary vs secondary perspective. The United States owns most of the refineries, so it comes into the United States in raw form and is refined here into an actual product (Gasoline, etc.).
When Canada becomes the 51st state, Canadian citizens will have the right to vote and voice their concerns (maybe affecting a US election). Until then, whining will have to suffice.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: ... But I don't want to bash them... I like a lot about it... they gave us hockey, Tim Horton's Coffee, William Shatner, Being Erica (don't laugh at me), Trailer Park Boys, Poutine, and a place to record most of the X-Files episodes. There's plenty of other stuff too but I can't think of it... oil I guess.
Don't forget Rush and The Guess Who. Neil Young, too. But we won't hold that against them
I'm confused by the targeting of Canada. Much of the rest I disagree with, but that's because I'm not economically liberal enough to support it; Canada I just don't get. Listening to the stated reasons, something is off.
Are we addressing illegal immigration and drug trafficking? Because we have a negative net flow of illegal immigration to Canada, as well as with most drugs. We also work very well with them to address those issues historically. How do the tariffs assist in those existing efforts?
Are we addressing trade imbalances and protecting domestic industries? Our trade deficit with Canada is extremely modest compared to the other targeted countries (China/Mexico). The USMCA already considerably rebalanced our trade terms with Canada, and tariffs are a much more impactful to domestic industries than the already-heavily-regulated trade with Canada. It's very likely the tariffs against Canada will do net damage to domestic industry. Are we unhappy with the terms negotiated into the USMCA?
Unless I'm missing something significant, that leaves generating revenue and political optics to answer "why?" If they're being raised purely to generate revenue, I'd have to question whether we're throwing the laffer curve out as we knowingly damage industries to squeeze more out of a revenue source that's historically give us something like 2% of our government's revenues.
So...optics? Like "we're willing to sacrifice domestic industry to own those libs up North"-level optics?
Maybe one of the more economically liberal members understands more about the impact of massive tariffs on non-problematic trade partners than I do, and can shed some light on what the actual goal there is.
I'm confused by the targeting of Canada. Much of the rest I disagree with, but that's because I'm not economically liberal enough to support it; Canada I just don't get. Listening to the stated reasons, something is off.
Are we addressing illegal immigration and drug trafficking? Because we have a negative net flow of illegal immigration to Canada, as well as with most drugs. We also work very well with them to address those issues historically. How do the tariffs assist in those existing efforts?
Are we addressing trade imbalances and protecting domestic industries? Our trade deficit with Canada is extremely modest compared to the other targeted countries (China/Mexico). The USMCA already considerably rebalanced our trade terms with Canada, and tariffs are a much more impactful to domestic industries than the already-heavily-regulated trade with Canada. It's very likely the tariffs against Canada will do net damage to domestic industry. Are we unhappy with the terms negotiated into the USMCA?
Unless I'm missing something significant, that leaves generating revenue and political optics to answer "why?" If they're being raised purely to generate revenue, I'd have to question whether we're throwing the laffer curve out as we knowingly damage industries to squeeze more out of a revenue source that's historically give us something like 2% of our government's revenues.
So...optics? Like "we're willing to sacrifice domestic industry to own those libs up North"-level optics?
Maybe one of the more economically liberal members understands more about the impact of massive tariffs on non-problematic trade partners than I do, and can shed some light on what the actual goal there is.
Well... we understand the southern border of course... drugs and illegal immigration. But Trump has mentioned a couple of times that SOME illegals are getting in from the north too, but he's addressed the tariffs from the Canadian perspective as trying to level the playing field (trade deficit). Canada doesn't have a tariff, but they automatically tax anything that's not made IN CANADA... universally so (Patrick will need to correct me on this). This of course is not reciprocated in the United States... so it caused a lot of manufacturers to move to Canada (just across the border), so they could now sell their products in Canada AND the US, and have it not be taxed. It becomes a net-loss to the United States.
From an American site for your viewing pleasure...
Pretty sure that this has been noted earlier that such a tariff would affect both border countries. Who is most affected and who is willing to pay the price to secure the borders is pretty obvious. Cutting off the Canadian oil would have a small effect but, that could be a good thing to enable our own federal lands to be opened up for exploration. No doubt, everyone likes cheaper fuel but, there's a silver lining here. The citizens of the US who have suffered due to the policies of the Biden/Harris Administration are still going to pay for those policies for quite a while. No easy answers but, the US can survive without Canadian oil. We've been blessed with resources yet untapped.
Additionally, losing oil exports from the Canadian market will also hurt Canadians so, the threat is greatly muted when one considers everything involved.
Rams
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Pretty sure that is has been noted earlier that such a tariff would affect both border countries. Who is most affected and who is willing to pay the price to secure the borders is pretty obvious. Cutting off the Canadian oil would have a small effect but, that could be a good thing to enable our own federal lands to be opened up for exploration. No doubt, everyone likes cheaper fuel but, there's a silver lining here. The citizens of the US who have suffered due to the policies of the Biden/Harris Administration are still going to pay for those policies for quite a while. No easy answers but, the US can survive without Canadian oil. We've been blessed with resources yet untapped.
Additionally, losing oil exports from the Canadian market will also hurt Canadians so, the threat is greatly muted when one considers everything involved.
Rams
The biggest problem that Canada would have... if we were to tax oil imports, is that Canada doesn't really have the means to refine their domestic oil. Things like heavy crude, etc... that gets refined into synthetics, lubricants, etc. but only 30% of their refining capacity is for actual gasoline. That's why they send so much of it to the United States, because we have the preponderance of "gasoline" refineries. So it would be rather catastrophic... I mean, it would be catastrophic if we shut down oil imports, but it would merely be more costly if we taxed them.
Pretty sure that this has been noted earlier that such a tariff would affect both border countries. Who is most affected and who is willing to pay the price to secure the borders is pretty obvious. Cutting off the Canadian oil would have a small effect but, that could be a good thing to enable our own federal lands to be opened up for exploration. No doubt, everyone likes cheaper fuel but, there's a silver lining here. The citizens of the US who have suffered due to the policies of the Biden/Harris Administration are still going to pay for those policies for quite a while. No easy answers but, the US can survive without Canadian oil. We've been blessed with resources yet untapped.
Additionally, losing oil exports from the Canadian market will also hurt Canadians so, the threat is greatly muted when one considers everything involved.
Rams
This is what my question is. What policies of the Biden/Harris administration are being addressed with a tariff on a non-problematic trade partner? What is specifically is Canada doing that we are trying to address with such a punitive tariff?
lol
Guilty of what? The only thing I'm "guilty" of is wasting my time in P&R. 
