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...while it's probably a wonderful story, it serves no purpose when it's fake.


There are so many gullible morons who'll believe ANYTHING, that crap videos like this will probably still serve their intended purpose. Read the comments below the video at YouTube. So many suckers... swallowed hook, line and sinker.

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There are so many gullible morons who'll believe ANYTHING, that crap videos like this will probably still serve their intended purpose. Read the comments below the video at YouTube. So many suckers... swallowed hook, line and sinker.


Well look... when you watch a video on YouTube, and it doesn't make it abundantly clear that it's fiction, people assume (doesn't really make them suckers). People are trusting, and that is not necessarily a bad trait. A person who's untrusting and cautious all the time means they've experienced a lot of deceit in their lives... which isn't good either.
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I am not a gullible moron. I did not think the event happened. The answer was spot on.
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I am not a gullible moron. I did not think the event happened. The answer was spot on.


but gullible morons are required for religions

none of the events happened ever but they wrote the books anyway

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I am not a gullible moron. I did not think the event happened. The answer was spot on.


but gullible morons are required for religions

none of the events happened ever but they wrote the books anyway

then a thousand cults were made up by men

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swallowed hook, line and sinker.

What a pain in the neck that is. Never getting that jig back.
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I think this guy nails the problem.


https://youtube.com/shorts/...?si=smDb3o3oBPijIrGd
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A Little Girl Asks Trump About God – His Response Brings Her To Tears!




 
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The religious message, I found worth sharing.


My question would be... In this work of total AI created fiction, what does Donald Trump have to do with any sort of "religious message"?

The following AI image probably hits much closer to the actuality of Trump's relationship with the Bible and any stories within it.

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Patrick let that HATE eat you up inside. Let it consume you.
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Patrick let that HATE eat you up inside. Let it consume you.


That's very Christian of you! lol

I don't "HATE" anyone. I wouldn't waste the energy on them.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

My question would be... In this work of total AI created fiction, what does Donald Trump have to do with any sort of "religious message"?

The following AI image probably hits much closer to the actuality of Trump's relationship with the Bible and any stories within it.




If you take religion out of both images... they're both actually really cool, and pretty amazing what AI has increasingly been able to do.

On the top of Trump... I'm curious why you think Trump is somehow closer to making a deal with the devil, than being interested in being a good person?


I'm not sure I want to get you started, or that I want to do a back and forth... but I'm sure you don't actually think Trump is like that. I mean, that's a bit silly.
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Sorry that you are misinformed but I never claimed to be of any religious affiliation. It is not hard to see the hatred you put forth.
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Sorry that you are misinformed...


That makes two of us then.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

If you take religion out of both images... they're both actually really cool, and pretty amazing what AI has increasingly been able to do.


I agree it's pretty cool what AI can create, but as with any tool, it depends on what it's being used for. I didn't care for AI/ChatGPT being used to glorify Trump in the video that cliffw posted, so I countered with an AI creation of my own, using a program I described/demonstrated Here.

 
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I'm sure you don't actually think Trump is like that. I mean, that's a bit silly.


Which is more "silly" to believe... Trump doing deals with the Devil, or Trump telling some innocent little girl about God? My money's on the latter.
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I have not stated my spiritual beliefs. You just assume as usual.
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I have not stated my hatred for anyone. You just assume as usual.
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Which is more "silly" to believe... Trump doing deals with the Devil, or Trump telling some innocent little girl about God? My money's on the latter.



I mean... I agree with you??? ... the latter being Trump telling some girl about God... that does sound more likely.

How does one even "do a deal with the devil?"


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I mean... I agree with you??? ... the latter being Trump telling some girl about God... that does sound more likely.


You better re-read what you just agreed to. As with Open Loop/Closed Loop, I think you got your beliefs backwards.

 
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Which is more "silly" to believe... Trump doing deals with the Devil, or Trump telling some innocent little girl about God? My money's on the latter.

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You better re-read what you just agreed to. As with Open Loop/Closed Loop, I think you got your beliefs backwards.



I knew what you were trying to say... but I'm not sure you're right.

If you say something first, I'm pretty sure that's the former ... and then when you say something later that's the latter.


Here's what you said:

 
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Originally posted by Patrick: Which is more "silly" to believe... Trump doing deals with the Devil, or Trump telling some innocent little girl about God? My money's on the latter.


Trump doing deals with the Devil = Former
Trump telling an innocent girl about God = Latter

I minored in English, but that doesn't mean I'm an expert in it. Unless this is some British English (which you use) vs American English thing...


EDIT: Here is what Grammarly says about it:

What are the definitions of former and latter?

Former means “the first of the two.” It comes from the Old English word “forma,” meaning “first or “earliest in time or order,” according to the Online Etymology Dictionary. The original definition goes back to the mid–12th century and changed around the late 1500s to its current meaning. Former can also mean “previous” or be used to refer to a past state.


Latter has a similar history and comes from the Old English word lætra, or “late.” Its definition would also change at the latter half of the 1500s to “second of the two.” Latter can also mean “situated or occurring nearer to the end of something than to the beginning,” according to the Oxford English Dictionary.

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Trump doing deals with the Devil = Former
Trump telling an innocent girl about God = Latter

I minored in English, but that doesn't mean I'm an expert in it. Unless this is some British English (which you use) vs American English thing...


EDIT: Here is what Grammarly says about it:

What are the definitions of former and latter?

Former means “the first of the two.” It comes from the Old English word “forma,” meaning “first or “earliest in time or order,” according to the Online Etymology Dictionary. The original definition goes back to the mid–12th century and changed around the late 1500s to its current meaning. Former can also mean “previous” or be used to refer to a past state.


Latter has a similar history and comes from the Old English word lætra, or “late.” Its definition would also change at the latter half of the 1500s to “second of the two.” Latter can also mean “situated or occurring nearer to the end of something than to the beginning,” according to the Oxford English Dictionary.



He's saying "My money's on the fact that it's more silly to believe the latter" (innocent girl).
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He's saying "My money's on the fact that it's more silly to believe the latter" (innocent girl).


Oh yes... ok... lol. Damn Patrick... why do you have to use such complex words!
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Oh yes... ok... lol. Damn Patrick... why do you have to use such complex words!


I wasn't aware that I had used such "complex" words, but I appreciate another Canadian being able to set you straight.
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I wasn't aware that I had used such "complex" words, but I appreciate another Canadian being able to set you straight.



In effect, it was a type of double-negative... so it threw me off... and I read it quickly.


It was kind of the... "which one are we NOT doing ... X or Y?"


But yes... I should read more slowly... I just try to cram in a lot in a day.
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RELIGION IS EVIL

for a good person to do evil
that requires a religion

christian belief is not as evil as the ones who cut hearts out
or burn babys
but still is based on a myth with no truth and lots of tho shall nots

all religions are cults
if there is a christ what church does support ?
there never was a answer to that a clue there is no support for any church

btw catlicker's are child molesters
so are many many other cults but
the church of rome has been at it far longer then any others
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Originally posted by Patrick:
My question would be... In this work of total AI created fiction, what does Donald Trump have to do with any sort of "religious message"?


Okay, okay, I gotch you.

I will ask them to next time entitle it "a little girl asks Patrick about God".

Patrick, what does any politician have to do with with a religious message ? They all claim to have religion.

Patrick, are you trying to convey a religious message ?
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btw catlicker's are child molesters
so are many many other cults but
the church of rome has been at it far longer then any others



Ok, I've got to ask... what is a catlicker? I've never heard this term before... and I too live in Miami.

Lol, just looked it up: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/catlicker


Ok... I'm not sure I'd qualify for your generalization here. I'm Catholic, and don't do those things.
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for a good person to do evil requires a religion


You go girl. That's telling us.

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You go girl. That's telling us.

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"no evil can be done by a non religious person".

Outstanding !


no
simply
any evil person can do evil
but for a good person to do evil
THAT REQUIRES A RELIGION every time

CATLICKER is simply a kids miss pronounced term with out meaning licked cats
but they do like to mess with kids

many most sex crimes are crimes because of religion's hang ups
esp about gays enforced celibacy and others
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simply
any evil person can do evil
but for a good person to do evil
THAT REQUIRES A RELIGION every time


I see. Every evil person is religious.
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no
simply
any evil person can do evil
but for a good person to do evil
THAT REQUIRES A RELIGION every time

CATLICKER is simply a kids miss pronounced term with out meaning licked cats
but they do like to mess with kids

many most sex crimes are crimes because of religion's hang ups
esp about gays enforced celibacy and others



Come on Ray, don't be so bitter. The next four years will go by fast... and you might even have more money in your pocket.
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Patrick, what does any politician have to do with with a religious message ?


As far as I'm concerned, absolutely nothing.

 
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They all claim to have religion.


It seems that so many politicians and athletes believe (or at least publicly pretend) that God is in their corner. Why would a Supreme Being choose one side (of believers) over another? And how does it work if both competitors are equally backed by The Big Guy? (Please, no sermons. Those are rhetorical questions.)

IMHO, it's just so much malarkey. I have no problem with anyone quietly following their own beliefs... as long as it doesn't impinge on others.

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I see. Every evil person is religious.


no you do NOT want to see

religions are and do evil
religion will make a good person do evil
but you do NOT want to understand that fact

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It seems that so many politicians and athletes believe (or at least publicly pretend) that God is in their corner.


Sometimes He is, sometimes He isn't... why does that bother you?

I rarely ask for anything, but I routinely ask for things for other people. I'm not pretending anything. I think that if something doesn't go the way I'd hoped, it wasn't meant to be, or... I just didn't try hard enough.


 
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Originally posted by ray b:no you do NOT want to see

religions are and do evil
religion will make a good person do evil
but you do NOT want to understand that fact.


There was a time in my life where I would have thought that... if there's literally nothing I should be concerned about after I die... then why not bang every chick that gives me the time of day, or cheat and steal any time I think I can get away with it?

Religion... and my parents upbringing, which is religiously based, has taught me specifically that I should care, and I should want others to be happy to. I don't do bad things because I fear retribution in an afterlife... I don't do bad things because religion really has made me realize there's a reason why we need to help each other. I can't speak for other religions, but as a Catholic... my "quest" is to try to work as hard as possible to be a saint (as in, do as the saints have done). It doesn't mean I can't enjoy my life... but that's a goal I should seek to achieve.

I fail... constantly... you guys see it on here, I get annoyed, and say nasty things. It's a constant struggle to try to be a better person. That's religion...
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It seems that so many politicians and athletes believe (or at least publicly pretend) that God is in their corner. Why would a Supreme Being choose one side (of believers) over another? And how does it work if both competitors are equally backed by The Big Guy? (Please, no sermons. Those are rhetorical questions.)

IMHO, it's just so much malarkey. I have no problem with anyone quietly following their own beliefs... as long as it doesn't impinge on others.



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Sometimes He is, sometimes He isn't... why does that bother you?


Crazy talk makes me feel uneasy.

 
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I don't do bad things because I fear retribution in an afterlife...


Although they've been dead and long gone for years, I don't do bad things out of respect to my parents. I wouldn't wish to disappoint them. Perhaps this is where some individuals go off the rails. They might've never had a positive guiding parental force in their lives while growing up.
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jdv, what is the point of copying my post and then stating nothing? If you haven't got anything worthwhile to add to the discussion, maybe you should wait for some inspiration.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Come on Ray, don't be so bitter. The next four years will go by fast... and you might even have more money in your pocket.


sure SS went up 25.00 wooohoo
but medicare went up 30 so net loss
that is the rump gains
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...swallowed hook, line and sinker.


 
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What a pain in the neck that is. Never getting that jig back.


Since this thread has already included a totally AI generated work of fiction, I feel it's acceptable to add some more examples of Artificial Intelligence utilization. In my AI image program, I used my quote above, "swallowed hook, line and sinker" as the text-to-image prompt, with basically the only additional major prompt being to create surrealist art. I was amazed by the bizarreness of the images!





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Which one is the "flying spaghetti monster" ? Remember that thread ? I could not find the quip.
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