I seriously doubt that anyone on this Forum trusts the Russian leader.

ray b, time to wake up. Putin owns us and knows where you live.

quote Originally posted by cliffw: ray b, time to wake up. Putin owns us and knows where you live.

PUTIN SURE DOES HAVE OWNERSHIP OF YOUR RUMP

MY PREDICTION CEASE-FIRE AND PUTIN GETS 99% OF THE LANDS HE STOLE
NO PAYMENTS FROM RUSSIA TO THE U
THE U GET NO REAL COMPENSATION FROM RUSSIA

A RUMP DEAL ALL PUTIN GAINS

quote Originally posted by ray b: PUTIN SURE DOES HAVE OWNERSHIP OF YOUR RUMP MY PREDICTION CEASE-FIRE AND PUTIN GETS 99% OF THE LANDS HE STOLE NO PAYMENTS FROM RUSSIA TO THE U THE U GET NO REAL COMPENSATION FROM RUSSIA A RUMP DEAL ALL PUTIN GAINS

I have no predictions.

Old men start wars, young men die fighting them.

Maybe an old man will stop this one.

Only time will tell.

G.O.P. now stands for "Group of putineers"

America- the greatest country ever created- will be a smoking crater in a few years.

I see why the Putin-conservatives love putin...he is destroying America without ever firing a shot...and the repcon party now waits to celebrate the destruction.

I never "Joined the gang" but was always registered as an Independant....but I can see how most idiots (Right & Left) love to be in a gang and be told what to do- not actually >>Think for themselves<<<

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Well, that's one perspective.

You must be privy to information the rest of us don't know as to what's going on reference Ukraine.

I used to be a Registered Democrat but, that party left me. But when I was told about all the Fraud, Waste, Abuse and Corruption, I strongly support the effort to root it out. Will they find it all, most likely not but, it's still our money and we have a right to know how it's being spent.

Rams

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quote Well, that's one perspective.

Keep in mind, the perspective to the 'common' California voter has different "values" on most subjects...

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David Frum On Zelensky: “I think he just shames them.
He just shames them.
Every time @JDVance
looks at Zelensky,
he sees a better man.
And he hates it because it’s some level,
if you’re a JD Vance you have to know what you are…”

Turns out Vance is a white nationalist

Hey #MAGA you can dislike Trudeau
and you can pretend we don't need Canada
and you can parrot "tough guy" talking points,
but not one word he says here is untrue.
Take a look at the market.
Welcome to the find out phase.

And Americans don't like the spend, spend, spend, steal, steal, steal and lie, lie, lie that the DNC has subjected us to for too many decades.

quote Originally posted by Vintage-Nut: Keep in mind, the perspective to the 'common' California voter has different "values" on most subjects...

Does ray b vote in California also, ?

I first want to apologize for being a bit sarcastic in previous posts...That is how I was raised. I am a real conservative but will never "join the gang"...I have always been registered as an Independent (I stand on my own two feet, 100%)

I have been observing my friends, family and neighbors going basically NUTS over the last 15 years...At first I was more aware of Conservatives doing and saying dumb/crazy things- because I know what being a conservative means...But then I started to wonder about Putin's plans- not trying to convert the USA to Commie-land, but trying to just get Cons to HATE everything about A) Democrats, and B) Our country. So I started looking at Liberals and the craziest thing they have done lately was the "Defund the Cops" idiocy....Found out it came from Black Lives (Only) matter...then looked into its basis/funding- Supported/funded/controlled by Russia/Putin! That is when I realized how far this Plan goes.

Putin swore he would destroy America- we now are (Basically) at war with our ALLIES, while we are starting to support anything Russia does- Vlad is a damn evil thug/murderer.

Here is my basic outline of what has been going on- we are very close to total destruction! Most of you won't believe me- but we need to come together and stop this crap....

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1) Rupert Murdoch (Australian) buys Fox Broadcasting in 1986, and then creates Fox News in 1996

Rupert Murdoch's best friend and business partner is Vladimir Putin...
Jack Hanick (Helped found Fox News) news director indicted for helping Russian Oligarchs

2) Fox News begins pushing pro-conservative news...."The leftist liberals are to blame for everything wrong- but conservatives are always RIGHT (Oh- and did you notice how great a country Russia is? Or how their leader (Putin) is a great Christian conservative?")

(My friends (Mainly conservatives) and Aunt (Retired Air Force reservist) start talking about how great Russia is and how Putin would be a great leader for the whole world)

3) Robert Herring SR creates One America News (2013)

4) Operation Jade Helm is used to test the Russian (American) propaganda system; "Obama has ordered the US military to invade Texas and confiscate all guns- then confine all Texans to Walmarts!!!!" All the conservatives I know began buying up guns and ammo- proving that Russia's propaganda system worked and American conservatives would buy anything they heard on Fox and OAN.(July 2015)

5) 2016; Fox and OAN start pushing Trump as "The greatest leader the world has ever seen- he'd be the best president ever!"

6) Russian interference in 2016 election helps Putin's puppet get elected.

7) Covid crisis; Trump is directed to try to belittle the danger of the Covid Virus- "You don't need to isolate or wear masks"- helping to spread the virus.

8) The Italian Govt finds an extreme-conservative politician (Who was pro-Putin) trying to "Game" the election system...he is banned from Italian politics.....immediately after, Italy becomes the most-infected (By COVID) country in the world.

9) 2018; Ten "republican' politicians go on trip to Russia on July Fourth (?)

10) 2020; Black Lives Mater starts pushing "Defund the police"....release criminals and cut funding for police....American streets become anarchistic.
(BLM is funded and controlled by Russia)

11) 2020; During election Fox and OAN news start pushing theory that evil leftists aligned with foreign governments were going to interfere with election- after Biden won the election they then pushed the "proven fact" that the evil leftists had stolen the election from the great Trump.

12) Jan 6th; Trump try's to start a Civil war by pushing extremists to attack the capitol.....

13) After Jan 6th, most conservatives were in shock- but after a few weeks of watching Fox and OAN they knew- at first "It was all because of Antifa infiltrators!" but then, after a few more months, "It was right for Trump to try to stop the steal- We should have done more!"

14) We have had a huge surge in mass shootings- I believe that Russian operatives online are looking for people "on the edge" and then pushing them over that edge.

15) Russian propaganda system is not pushing the US in any one direction- instead they are trying to push the two different political parties in opposite- EXTREME- directions, hoping to instigate a civil war....and we are very close- some Republican politicians have stated that we "Need a civil war"
>>>Putin swore on numerous occasions that he would "Destroy America!"

I follow dozens of publications, conservative, independent, liberal, international and national.

I do not think your conclusions, for the most part, are based on the reality on the ground.

Thank you for expressing your opinion.

quote Originally posted by olejoedad: I follow dozens of publications, conservative, independent, liberal, international and national. I do not think your conclusions, for the most part, are based on the reality on the ground. Thank you for expressing your opinion.

YOUR CONNED-CLUSIONS ARE ALL CULT BASED

FUNNY NEVER SEEN A MODERATE LINK LET ALONE A LIB ONE FROM ALL THAT READING
ONLY EXTREME RIGHTWING ONES FROM THE CULT

quote Originally posted by ray b: YOUR CONNED-CLUSIONS ARE ALL CULT BASED FUNNY NEVER SEEN A MODERATE LINK LET ALONE A LIB ONE FROM ALL THAT READING ONLY EXTREME RIGHTWING ONES FROM THE CULT

I don't post links to everything I read, or quotes from the books and papers I have read.

Do you read from sources you disagree with?

quote Originally posted by cvxjet: That is how I was raised. I am a real conservative but will never "join the gang"...I have always been registered as an Independent (I stand on my own two feet, 100%.

No apology needed. I call myself an individual.

quote Originally posted by cvxjet: I have been observing ...

Blah blah blah.

quote Originally posted by cvxjet: ... then I started to wonder about Putin's plans- not trying to convert the USA to Commie-land, but trying to just get Cons to HATE everything about A) Democrats, and B) Our country. So I started looking at Liberals and the craziest thing they have done lately was the "Defund the Cops" idiocy....Found out it came from Black Lives (Only) matter...then looked into its basis/funding- Supported/funded/controlled by Russia/Putin! That is when I realized how far this Plan goes. Putin swore he would destroy America- we now are (Basically) at war with our ALLIES, while we are starting to support anything Russia does- Vlad is a damn evil thug/murderer.

Wow ! The Democrats hate America. Whose opinion is Vlad swaying ? Vlad has nothing on Joseph Stalin. Who said "I will sell the Americans the rope we will hang them with".

Divide and conquer comes to mind.


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quote Originally posted by cvxjet: 1) Rupert Murdoch (Australian) buys Fox Broadcasting in 1986, and then creates Fox News in 1996 Rupert Murdoch's best friend and business partner is Vladimir Putin... Jack Hanick (Helped found Fox News) news director indicted for helping Russian Oligarchs

Best friend and business partner ? Prove it or you are wrong.

quote Originally posted by cvxjet: 2) Fox News begins pushing pro-conservative news...."The leftist liberals are to blame for everything wrong- but conservatives are always RIGHT (Oh- and did you notice how great a country Russia is? Or how their leader (Putin) is a great Christian conservative?")

Are you pissed off that you did not think of the idea of challenging left wing propaganda ? Money making bonanza.

quote Originally posted by cvxjet: (My friends (Mainly conservatives) and Aunt (Retired Air Force reservist) start talking about how great Russia is and how Putin would be a great leader for the whole world)

You need new friends and avoid relatives who do the brown acid.

quote Originally posted by cvxjet: 4) Operation Jade Helm is used to test the Russian (American) propaganda system; "Obama has ordered the US military to invade Texas and confiscate all guns- then confine all Texans to Walmarts!!!!" All the conservatives I know began buying up guns and ammo- proving that Russia's propaganda system worked and American conservatives would buy anything they heard on Fox and OAN.(July 2015).

Have you been taking the brown acid also ? Jade Helm was a training exercise, just as a fire drill in school is.

quote Originally posted by cvxjet: 5) 2016; Fox and OAN start pushing Trump as "The greatest leader the world has ever seen- he'd be the best president ever!"

My my my. Every liberal news organization did the same thing, in hopes of defeating all 17 of the other Republicans vying for the Republican nomination as a Presidential nominee. My my my, did they frack up.

Just like Obama did after Trump said he was not a good President. Nobama said "At least I will go down as President: Barack Obama tells Donald". That is what is called a burr under a saddle.

quote Originally posted by cvxjet: 6) Russian interference in 2016 election helps Putin's puppet get elected.

Russia Russia Russia.
Every country tries to affect elections of other countries. What interference are you speaking about ? Which one worked ? I am sure they tried many different ways.

quote Originally posted by cvxjet: 7) Covid crisis; Trump is directed to try to belittle the danger of the Covid Virus- "You don't need to isolate or wear masks"- helping to spread the virus.

Heh. If a mask will not transmit a fart smell, it will not work on a virus. Period.

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quote Originally posted by cvxjet: I first want to apologize for being a bit sarcastic in previous posts...That is how I was raised. I am a real conservative but will never "join the gang"...I have always been registered as an Independent (I stand on my own two feet, 100%) I have been observing my friends, family and neighbors going basically NUTS over the last 15 years...At first I was more aware of Conservatives doing and saying dumb/crazy things- because I know what being a conservative means...But then I started to wonder about Putin's plans- not trying to convert the USA to Commie-land, but trying to just get Cons to HATE everything about A) Democrats, and B) Our country. So I started looking at Liberals and the craziest thing they have done lately was the "Defund the Cops" idiocy....Found out it came from Black Lives (Only) matter...then looked into its basis/funding- Supported/funded/controlled by Russia/Putin! That is when I realized how far this Plan goes. Putin swore he would destroy America- we now are (Basically) at war with our ALLIES, while we are starting to support anything Russia does- Vlad is a damn evil thug/murderer. Here is my basic outline of what has been going on- we are very close to total destruction! Most of you won't believe me- but we need to come together and stop this crap.... XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 1) Rupert Murdoch (Australian) buys Fox Broadcasting in 1986, and then creates Fox News in 1996 Rupert Murdoch's best friend and business partner is Vladimir Putin... Jack Hanick (Helped found Fox News) news director indicted for helping Russian Oligarchs 2) Fox News begins pushing pro-conservative news...."The leftist liberals are to blame for everything wrong- but conservatives are always RIGHT (Oh- and did you notice how great a country Russia is? Or how their leader (Putin) is a great Christian conservative?") (My friends (Mainly conservatives) and Aunt (Retired Air Force reservist) start talking about how great Russia is and how Putin would be a great leader for the whole world) 3) Robert Herring SR creates One America News (2013) 4) Operation Jade Helm is used to test the Russian (American) propaganda system; "Obama has ordered the US military to invade Texas and confiscate all guns- then confine all Texans to Walmarts!!!!" All the conservatives I know began buying up guns and ammo- proving that Russia's propaganda system worked and American conservatives would buy anything they heard on Fox and OAN.(July 2015) 5) 2016; Fox and OAN start pushing Trump as "The greatest leader the world has ever seen- he'd be the best president ever!" 6) Russian interference in 2016 election helps Putin's puppet get elected. 7) Covid crisis; Trump is directed to try to belittle the danger of the Covid Virus- "You don't need to isolate or wear masks"- helping to spread the virus. 8) The Italian Govt finds an extreme-conservative politician (Who was pro-Putin) trying to "Game" the election system...he is banned from Italian politics.....immediately after, Italy becomes the most-infected (By COVID) country in the world. 9) 2018; Ten "republican' politicians go on trip to Russia on July Fourth (?) 10) 2020; Black Lives Mater starts pushing "Defund the police"....release criminals and cut funding for police....American streets become anarchistic. (BLM is funded and controlled by Russia) 11) 2020; During election Fox and OAN news start pushing theory that evil leftists aligned with foreign governments were going to interfere with election- after Biden won the election they then pushed the "proven fact" that the evil leftists had stolen the election from the great Trump. 12) Jan 6th; Trump try's to start a Civil war by pushing extremists to attack the capitol..... 13) After Jan 6th, most conservatives were in shock- but after a few weeks of watching Fox and OAN they knew- at first "It was all because of Antifa infiltrators!" but then, after a few more months, "It was right for Trump to try to stop the steal- We should have done more!" 14) We have had a huge surge in mass shootings- I believe that Russian operatives online are looking for people "on the edge" and then pushing them over that edge. 15) Russian propaganda system is not pushing the US in any one direction- instead they are trying to push the two different political parties in opposite- EXTREME- directions, hoping to instigate a civil war....and we are very close- some Republican politicians have stated that we "Need a civil war" >>>Putin swore on numerous occasions that he would "Destroy America!"

ray b, is that you?

When did you learn to spell?

NO

TELL SOME MORE LIES
AS THAT IS ALL YOU DO HERE
SUPPORT THE EVIL RUMP AND HIS BUDDY PUTIN

F-A-ROUND AND FIND OUT ALL ABOUT LEOPARDS

You could shorten the to FAFOABL....