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Department of Education by olejoedad
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The head of the Teachers Union has something to say about the idea of reforming the DOEd....

https://www.msnbc.com/opini...-children-rcna194367

And for another take on the proposal....

https://www.usatoday.com/st...-choice/81781255007/

What say you?

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In his 1980 campaign and throughout his presidency, Reagan promised that he would abolish the Department of Education...but Congress wasn't interested.

To me, eliminating progressive ideology from the federal government 'education' will be a good step forward to MAGA.

How Left-Wing Activism Corrupted America’s Schools
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CHRISTO-FACISTS WANT TO CON-TROL THE KIDS

they want the kids in christian schools
white kids anyway
I remember deseg
this time they want tax funding
as they were to cheap in the 60's
to fund their own schools
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Originally posted by ray b:

CHRISTO-FACISTS WANT TO CON-TROL THE KIDS

they want the kids in christian schools
white kids anyway
I remember deseg
this time they want tax funding
as they were to cheap in the 60's
to fund their own schools


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Originally posted by ray b:

CHRISTO-FACISTS WANT TO CON-TROL THE KIDS

they want the kids in christian schools
white kids anyway
I remember deseg
this time they want tax funding
as they were to cheap in the 60's
to fund their own schools


You certainly have a jaded outlook on.......everything.
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States should 100% fund and control the education in all state ran schools.
The FEDs should not be managing any of it.

Larger states should not be able to dictate to smaller states how to run the education system by manipulating the DOE
The only thing the FEDs should be doing is setting standards and letting the states figure it out.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

States should 100% fund and control the education in all state ran schools.
The FEDs should not be managing any of it.

Larger states should not be able to dictate to smaller states how to run the education system by manipulating the DOE
The only thing the FEDs should be doing is setting standards and letting the states figure it out.



100%...
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Our students dismal testing scores are not entirely the fault of the government.

Many students have parents that are not involved in any aspect of their child's education.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:


You certainly have a jaded outlook on.......everything.


Go back and look at his posts over the years..or a couple of decades.
How often has he actually ever had anything GOOD to say about this country?
But he has lots of company and he isn't the only one that hates America.

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But he has lots of company and he isn't the only one that hates America.


But only a few which hate America will leave...
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Originally posted by olejoedad:


You certainly have a jaded outlook on.......everything.


RB is just a troll...

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Go back and look at his posts over the years..or a couple of decades.
How often has he actually ever had anything GOOD to say about this country?
But he has lots of company and he isn't the only one that hates America.


people who resist the fascists like BuSh2 or your rump

do not hate their country

people who support the fascists are the haters/fearers/those that hate our freedoms
the other side want to change our country into something it never was

i hate putin who is a very bad guy
why does your fool the rump love putin and due his bidding ?

why do the fascists want to change the system top to bottom
not little tweeks
wholesale total changes
with very little planning and lots of lies
they ran on we do not know agenda 25 BS
then with no warning try to jam it down our throats
with lots of lies and BS


so I ask
stop lying
think before acting
slow down
reject the scum putin and his plans

I do not hate my country
I do hate what the con's want to do to my country
and the way they lie to us about what they are doing
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Commentary from a conservative....

https://jonathanturley.org/...quiet-part-out-loud/
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

States should 100% fund and control the education in all state ran schools.
The FEDs should not be managing any of it.

Larger states should not be able to dictate to smaller states how to run the education system by manipulating the DOE
The only thing the FEDs should be doing is setting standards and letting the states figure it out.


SHOULD STATES FUND CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS

HOW ABOUT MOSLEM SCHOOLS

HINDU ?

RASTA ?

i SAY NO RELIGIONS AT ALL
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Originally posted by ray b:


SHOULD STATES FUND CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS

HOW ABOUT MOSLEM SCHOOLS

HINDU ?

RASTA ?

i SAY NO RELIGIONS AT ALL


The money should go with the student to the school of the parent's choice.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:


The money should go with the student to the school of the parent's choice.


sure with their own money

but no tax funds to religion of any kind inc schools
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To clarify for those that didn't understand.....

The tax money apportioned for each student per district should follow the student to the school of the parent's choice, providing that school teaches to the standards set by that States government.

And to friend ray b...

The First Amendment of the Constitution doesn't forbid religion, it says the Government can not officially endorse one religion over another.
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And to friend ray b...

The First Amendment of the Constitution doesn't forbid religion, it says the Government can not officially endorse one religion over another.



Religious bigots like to pretend that the 1st Amendment says "Freedom from religion...."

It actually says "Freedom OF religion..."

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Religious bigots like to pretend that the 1st Amendment says "Freedom from religion...."

It actually says "Freedom OF religion..."


THE BIGOTS WANT OTHERS TO PAY FOR THEIR KIDS FAIRY-TALE INDOCTRINATION

I DO WANT FREEDOM INC FREEDOM FROM THE DELUSIONS OF BELIEVERS

YOU CAN BELIEVE WHAT EVER YOU WANT

i DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR YOUR DELUSIONS OR HAVE THEM IN MY LAWS

LAWS NEED TO BE FACTUAL NEVER BASED ON A FANTASY BELIEF SYSTEM
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Looks good, fashion sense, humps like a bunny, can't do math.
' This is a failure to educate ! '
So, like, the standard of performance has not been met.
Can't do the job, they get fired, right ?
Teachers that can't teach, looking for gainful employment in 2025.
It's a contract, we pay you to teach, ' Get on it ! '
Problem solving made easy, ' Go ! Elon ! '


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Originally posted by ray b:


THE BIGOTS WANT OTHERS TO PAY FOR THEIR KIDS FAIRY-TALE INDOCTRINATION

I DO WANT FREEDOM INC FREEDOM FROM THE DELUSIONS OF BELIEVERS

YOU CAN BELIEVE WHAT EVER YOU WANT

i DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR YOUR DELUSIONS OR HAVE THEM IN MY LAWS

LAWS NEED TO BE FACTUAL NEVER BASED ON A FANTASY BELIEF SYSTEM


You do you.

If the government is collecting taxes to provide for education, that education system should be the best that it can possibly be.
Our current public educational system hasn't come close to meeting that criteria, and our students testing scores are proof of that.
Charter and religious school students score much higher than public school students.

Having the money follow the students allows school choice without penalizing taxpayers who send their children to better schools, and allows lower income taxpayers the ability to enroll their children in better schools.

It's a win for the taxpayers, and eventually a win for the public school systems as they will be forced by competition to improve their product.

But, you do you, and be against anything that improves the future of the next generation of taxpayers.

Why should you care, you won't be around to watch a real-world version of 'Dumb and Dumber'.
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RELIGIOUS RE VISIONING FOR MONEY PURE AND SIMPLE

THEY TRYED IN THE 60'S DESEG FIGHTS TO SET UP WHITE CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS
BUT MOST FAIL DUE TO COSTS
NOW THEY WANT NEW TAX RULES TO ALLOW WHAT WAS FORBIDDEN

THEY CLAIM TRADITIONAL VALUES
EXCEPT WHEN THEY RAID PUBLIC FUNDS FOR PRIVATE RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS TAX DOLLARS
SOMETHING AGAINST ALL OF OUR TRADITIONS AND VALUES
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Against all of our traditions and values?

You do realize they open each day in Congress with a prayer, right?

What is cast onto every coin?

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Originally posted by olejoedad:
The head of the Teachers Union has something to say about the idea of reforming the DOEd....

What say you?


The ... different teachers unions, want everybody to be taxed to protect their financial security. They want no competition.

We pay more per student in educational costs, yet keep falling behind in success.

 
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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:
In his 1980 campaign and throughout his presidency, Reagan promised that he would abolish the Department of Education...but Congress wasn't interested.


Texas Governor Rick Perry, in a run for the Presidency, said there were three Depts he would abolish. Though he had said it before, he could not remember the Dept of Education on the debate stage.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Against all of our traditions and values?

You do realize they open each day in Congress with a prayer, right?

What is cast onto every coin?


AT THE BIDDING OF THE ANTI-COMMIES THE NUT -CON'S OF THE 50'S

AND IS SPOKEN PART
UNSPOKEN WAS ''ALL OTHER PAY CASH ''

BUT PAYING FOR MOSLEM TERROR SCHOOLS ?
OR HUNDI SCHOOLS ?

HOW ABOUT JEDI TRAINING SCHOOLS
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Originally posted by cliffw:


Texas Governor Rick Perry, in a run for the Presidency, said there were three Depts he would abolish. Though he had said it before, he could not remember the Dept of Education on the debate stage.


YOUR SICK RICK AND OUR RHONDA
ARE IN A CON-TEST
TO SEE WHO IS MORE CORRUPT AND THE BIGGER PIG
AND WHO CAN SELL OUT FOR MORE
WHILE KISSING THE ORANGE RUMP ON HIS RUMP

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You are consistent, I will give you that.....
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

You are consistent, I will give you that.....


ANSWER THE QUESTION

YOU OK WITH MOSLEM SCHOOLS ON THE TAX PAYERS FUNDS ?
ISIS TOO? OR JUST SOME [YOUR] RELIGIONS FUNDING BY MY TAXES ?
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I'm good with allowing schools from all recognized religions.
Now you owe me one - I answered your question.
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Originally posted by ray b:
ANSWER THE QUESTION

YOU OK WITH MOSLEM SCHOOLS ON THE TAX PAYERS FUNDS ?
ISIS TOO? OR JUST SOME [YOUR] RELIGIONS FUNDING BY MY TAXES ?


ray b, you are embarrassing all public schools. The tax payer's funds used for you education were wantonly wasted, by you.

ray b, I am a high school drop out. I didn't have a high school cheerleader do my grammar, nor my math. Though I did do three high school cheerleaders. One from a different high school, far across town, who I married. Three children.

ray b, do you have children ? If so, please don't let your children to grow up being a democrat.
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A pop quiz to be admitted into a voting booth: ' what is your gender ? '
This is a test, ' what color is the sky at your house ? '
Is it true that socialism has murdered the most to retain power ?
Is it a fact that marxism is a disease of the iQ impaired ?
How true is it that, the single common causality of Nazi_Hamas_Communist regimes, the people were all unarmed, disarmed,
communist at muzzle point, every one of them.
That's how it works inside a tds infected Dempartie_Nazi_Hamas_Communist's brain.
Intolerant of any criticism or any opposition to the party decrees, the ideology of zombie conformity.
' How dare you ! You're creating a crisis in Our Democracy ! '
' Big News Pal,
this isn't a democracy, never has been, deliberately, on purpose, intentionally, for more than two hundred years,
best you get with the program, embrace the Constitution, to survive in American Politics, lest you are banished to the
weeds of the wilderness, forever, like. '
Dempartie_Nazi_Hamas_Communists,
doomed to be out of power, for forty, sixty, years, 2084 before they clue in to the Founding Documents,
those Revolutionary Soldiers were wise to communist usurpers, the frauds in politics.
Biden_Joe did this, Garland did this, Nancy did this, Schumer did this, their corruption and greed did this.
An evil conspiracy to destroy the Constitution, failing, and now, before the sword of justice.
' They tried to assassinate President D.J.Trump, they are destined for hard jolts, some, for life. '
Felony child molestation, Biden_Joe's legacy, put it to Ashley's teeny twelve.
A monster.
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monkey see, monkey do. '
' Unable to communicate coherently in my native language, I never graduated from the eighth grade, that is why my resume is a fraud, in all caps,
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Rational, like.
Rabid in 3.. 2.. 1..

' I think I need to name-call the President, then, I'll feel better ! '

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Obama thought we had 58 states.

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ray b, you are embarrassing all public schools. The tax payer's funds used for you education were wantonly wasted, by you.

ray b, I am a high school drop out. I didn't have a high school cheerleader do my grammar, nor my math. Though I did do three high school cheerleaders. One from a different high school, far across town, who I married. Three children.

ray b, do you have children ? If so, please don't let your children to grow up being a democrat.


IT IS WORSE
I RAISED TWO LIBERAL ATHEIST SONS
WHO ARE FAR TOO THE LEFT OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
NO REAL USA PARTY FOR THEM THINK EURO'S GREENS WHO SUPPORT GRETTA

AND WHY I AM PUZZLED YOU CAN'T SEE JOE'S REAL PLACE AS A MODERATE CENTRIST
I GUESS THE FAR RIGHT CAN'T SEE FACTS AS THE LIES ARE SO CONSTANT
BUT JOE IS FAR MORE CENTER THEN BURNIE
AND I AM TO THE LEFT OF HIM

AND WHY I DO NOT FOLLOW LIES OR CULTS
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

I'm good with allowing schools from all recognized religions.
Now you owe me one - I answered your question.


AZTEC ?
AS IN WE NEED VICTIMS FOR A FLOWER WAR

[we ain't real mad just need to cut out a few hearts to insure the sun rises ]
that is our religion !!!!!!

going to pay for their schools too ?

note that was a real thing before the euro's

so all or just some ?
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AZTEC ?
AS IN WE NEED VICTIMS FOR A FLOWER WAR

[we ain't real mad just need to cut out a few hearts to insure the sun rises ]
that is our religion !!!!!!

going to pay for their schools too ?

note that was a real thing before the euro's

so all or just some ?



RayB,

I haven't joined in this discussion for personal reasons but, I'm honestly amazed you're posting on anything to do with our education system based on all the posts you've made over the years you've been here. Either the system failed you or, you failed to put in the effort. I suspect one over the other.

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RayB,

I haven't joined in this discussion for personal reasons but, I'm honestly amazed you're posting on anything to do with our education system based on all the posts you've made over the years you've been here. Either the system failed you or, you failed to put in the effort. I suspect one over the other.

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yes as expected

ask the hard Q

and they attack you
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There were questions in there?

Who could tell?
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yes as expected

ask the hard Q

and they attack you


Is stating the truth based on tons of evidence an attack? I don't think so.

BTW, I stated very clearly I had avoided posting an opinion about the school question.
Sticking to my guns on that one.

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Show one current religion in the US that allows human sacrifice and then maybe this is a discussion worth having. Otherwise making a truly insane and ridiculous point that you can argue against shows the mental capacity the rest of the forum is dealing with in trying to decipher the weaponized ignorance you put on the screen
 
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AZTEC ?
AS IN WE NEED VICTIMS FOR A FLOWER WAR

[we ain't real mad just need to cut out a few hearts to insure the sun rises ]
that is our religion !!!!!!

going to pay for their schools too ?

note that was a real thing before the euro's

so all or just some ?


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Weaponized ignorance - dude, that's epic!
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