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86 chop top has begun by CTDIV
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Report this Post06-03-2007 08:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CTDIVSend a Private Message to CTDIVEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Well I have completed Welding the mounts for the V8. I also installed new stainless steel brake line from the fiero store.













Keep checking back for more updates

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Sorry for the lack of updates. I have really been working hard on the old girl. I just have not been very good at doing any updates.

I did my starter work.



I did some work on the interior. I started making room for the subs that are going behind the seat. Here I made the holes and use expanding foam to fill in the holes. Later I will cut the the extra foam away and use it as the base to fibergass and fill. Driver side



pass side

[IMG]http://myfiero.com/uploads/7385_.jpg[/IMG

Here is my new clutch.



Here is my entrire drivetrain ready to go including the headers.



So today I started doing the very first test fit. After I go it in, I took it back out and notched the frame. I installed the heat shielding for the firewall. In do that I had to clean up the holes from the factory wire harness. I also started doing the fill for the speaker boxes.

















Well, I will be working so more on it this week. I hope to have the motor in all together by next weekend. Thanks for the bump.

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Well I have finally got the motor in.



I have some questions for those that have done this before. One is what did I do wrong? How can I get this all under the hood line?



Second questions is that I do not remember the centers of the strut tower coming up so high. Does anyone know how the strut tops are installed?



One last shot to show the progress to this point.

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Second questions is that I do not remember the centers of the strut tower coming up so high. Does anyone know how the strut tops are installed?





You've got the strut bushing installed upside down.
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Report this Post07-11-2007 07:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So what are your plans for the connectors that went through the area you welded up? On mine, I ran the tail light harness through the passenger tunnel where you plan to install the sub and then out to the wheel well area and back to the rear.

When you lower the rear of the car, it normally is suggested to flip the strut bushings over to get more strut travel. So if you are going to lower it, I would leave it the way it is.

Your swap is looking good, but I would suggest running the plug wires differently. It is coming together real clean and organized, but the plug wires just bother me. If you would like an example, I can post a pic.
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Yes I would love a pic. And thank you for the advice. I will make the change on the strut towers. So do you have any advice for the height of the air cleaner?
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Oh I forgot I am planning a whole new wiring. I am buying the 18 circut painless kit.
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Yes I would love a pic. And thank you for the advice. I will make the change on the strut towers. So do you have any advice for the height of the air cleaner?


Here is an old pic... I always buy the cut to length version and run the wires under the manifolds.



It looks like the air cleaner will be close, just put the decklid on to see what you have to work with. If you only need about 1/4" then you may cut the base flange on the air filter or get one that is flat on the bottom.
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Chops are a beautiful thing !

Any new pics ??
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Yes...updates please!!!!

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For how long will this motor stay so clean?
 
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Well I have finally got the motor in.



I have some questions for those that have done this before. One is what did I do wrong? How can I get this all under the hood line?



Second questions is that I do not remember the centers of the strut tower coming up so high. Does anyone know how the strut tops are installed?



One last shot to show the progress to this point.



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Report this Post10-01-2007 09:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CTDIVSend a Private Message to CTDIVEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I clean it and and tuck it into bed everynight...................Really, just ask my wife

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Thought I would throw in my two cents.

Really just wanted to encourage you to keep the updates coming. I love the roof line of your chop...really anxious to see it with some body panels on to see if it looks as good as I expect. You were doing a notchback, right?

People have commented about your wife's willingness to accept this. Just in case there is any tension there, I thought I would toss up a couple pics of my project and she will understand how lucky she is. This is my kitchen:



I neglected to take pics of the clutch on the counter....or the sink/parts cleaner. I will be moving in December where I will finally have a real garage....can't wait.

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Report this Post10-04-2007 12:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CTDIVSend a Private Message to CTDIVEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I will keep updating here soon. I have a ton of stuff coming and I cannot wait to get it together. Thanks for the encouragment. I have to say the there is no tension with my wife on this project. She has been and continues to be very supportive. She just like to joke with me about how much time I spend with that car. In saying all that though, I highly doubt she would like to have it in here kitchen. I showed her your post and she said "I love you, but do not even think about it!"

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Report this Post10-09-2007 05:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CTDIVSend a Private Message to CTDIVEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ok I have to say that this is a very exciting day. I GOT MY RIMS. It is amazing how the little things can really make your day. Here they are in their little boxes



Here is the tires that are going on them tomorrow.



Here is one of her tires by itself



SO here is a rim by itself. Just had to see what it would look like on the car.



I will post more when I get more. Be prepared I have a lot of parts coming so there will be lots of updates.

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This is a beautiful project, very inspiring.

Just have to ask, what kind of rims are those and where did you get them??

I don't like a lot of aftermarket rims on a Fiero, but those look awesome!

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Thank you for the kind words. I got them from vqmotoring.com. They were very helpful and the shipping was very fast. I found them as I was searching on ebay. They were originally listed there but I had a lot of questions so I called them directly. they are 18" rims and the tires are 225/40 r 18
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I got the rims mounted and balanced today. I brought them home and just had to see what they would look like. I hope that the space below is partially because the suspension sat extended for so long. It also needs to be lowerd. Does anyone have any advice on this topic?



I am trying to push it down to see what it would look like. But this was as low as I could get it.

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I got the rims mounted and balanced today. I brought them home and just had to see what they would look like. I hope that the space below is partially because the suspension sat extended for so long. It also needs to be lowerd. Does anyone have any advice on this topic?



I am trying to push it down to see what it would look like. But this was as low as I could get it.





CTVID, good point about the front end gap. I'd also like input on why a car that's been sitting with out much weight on the suspension would make the fiero look higher.
Is this myth true??

Thanks for any feedback.

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I got the rims mounted and balanced today. I brought them home and just had to see what they would look like. I hope that the space below is partially because the suspension sat extended for so long. It also needs to be lowerd. Does anyone have any advice on this topic?



I am trying to push it down to see what it would look like. But this was as low as I could get it.





CTDIV, has a good point. I like input about a car that's been sitting with the suspension unloaded for a long time. (1 month or 2) Is this myth true?? I talking about this extra gap between the wheels and the fender.

Thanks for any feedback.

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Opps, double post. Sorry....

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Nice wheels.
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theres a washer thats suppsed to sit on the strut to keep the strut tops from coming up that high, basically if they are up that high, whats to stop the strut from going all the way out the top when the springs compress.

i learned the hard way with my 84 t-top 3800 car.

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I have a very busy weekend, although it does not look it. I got the radiator and stuff installed back in the car. I then completed the cooling system in the back. It included a Stewart warner EMP Electric pump. It was very easy to install. I basicallt finished up a lot of little things so I could get the drive train finished up and move on to the doors. I got my new hinges. but I cannot believe that I forgot to get a picture. So I will up load these picture for now. The list of things I have purchased and is waiting to be installed:

Lambo Hinges
Dynamat
Custom interior with 2 rear subs and one front trunk sub
Complete wiring kit
Battery relocation kit
exhuast
Mr Mikes seats and doors
Rear glass, side glass and new front windshield

Also in need to purchase some new lowwer springs and ball joints. As it turns out the front is just not looking they way I wanted so I am going to lower it a lot.
My new rims had to be sent off to get machined. The center hubs were to small so now they are going to match perfect. I should have them back Tuesday.


Responce to ealier post. I did end up fipping over the strut tower caps and it installed a lot easier.



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Just wondering....I saw that you welded a padeye onto the K member to attach the stabilizer arm to on the tranny side of the V8 block. Did the V8 kit call for this or did you decide to do this on your own. If you did it on your own I am very curious as to the philosophy around this decision. Thanks and great looking car !!!

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the kit called for it.

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Where did the kit say to mount the stabilizer bar specifically ?

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Honestly what a great thread....and thanks for all the help you've given me with my project.....Michael
Creativity..a dream...using a Fiero as a base, you can have something remarkable ; )
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Honestly what a great thread....and thanks for all the help you've given me with my project.....Michael
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CTVID, good point about the front end gap. I'd also like input on why a car that's been sitting with out much weight on the suspension would make the fiero look higher.
Is this myth true??

Thanks for any feedback.

fierogt28


At times I have had my 88 Mera on jack stands for long periods. One time for about a year and a half. It did not seem to sit higher when I took it off the jack stands.

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New springs will settle over time. At some time they reach a point and do not settle anymore or very little over many years.

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Well i got to work on it agin this weekend. I am still going to be doing more tomorrow. Today I rebuilt the headlight motors and completed the sound deadner for the interior. It really is starting to turn out. I can see the light at the end on the tunnel.







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Wow, that looks like it should be quite comfortable inside sound wise........ that is til you turn on the big sub..lol. By the way, where you going to put the sub?
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I am going to be putting one in the front like i have before. this time though, I am doing a different design. Then I am doing two 8" subs behind the seats. That is why I did the mods in the rear fire wall. Thanks again for following the thread.

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Well I have been busy today. I was able to get at least one door completed. I have to say that it really was not that hard to get these universal hinges installed. It was a lot of trying then, tweak, try, tweak. After it was all done, I believe I can get the passenger side done quicker and so far it looks great. I tried the fender and just have a little triming to do.



Keep checking for updates.

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CTDIV,
I sure enjoy following this thread thanks for the updates.
I'm interested in chopping my car a bit and installing the lambo hinges as well.
On the hinges. Can you say where you got them?
Do you think it will be hard to get in and out of the car without catching your knees on the door?
On the chop. How to you go about buying custom glass for the rear and side windows?
How do you go about measuring for the side glass to fit. Make a pattern?
Thanks and great work!
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I got the hinges from a guy on ebay. I did a search for Vertical hinges for weeks. I knew if I could ge teh basic hinge I could modify them enough to make them work. As far as getting out. The door sit out further then it look in the photo. There is pletty of room to get out.

The glass for the back window can be cut by any auto glass place. the side windows are going to be lexan. however the guy that I got doing my back window suggest useing a fairly new product called "mar guard" It is suppose to be more scratch resistant then lexan. He has already done the pattern.
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I wonder if an auto glass place can cut the rear window if they could shape the side ones as well.
Maybe they can only cut the safety glass in a straight line.
Or maybe it's possible to shape the glass with a stained glass diamond grinder set up?
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you cannot reshape the side glass. it will break with no doubt. You could cut new glass, but the problem is the bend that you have to put in the shape. this bend allows the window to go down with out hitting the inside of the door. Also if it was straight when you put it up it may not hit flush on the door gasket.
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