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Keen V-8 Fiero, the build by Archie
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Report this Post11-08-2010 05:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ErikSend a Private Message to ErikEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey Archie could you make a lip spoiler that had a raised center section sort of like how a 360 Ferrari is and integrate it with the hatchback?

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Originally posted by CommanderKeen:


I spent alot of time thinking about the lip spoiler, which looks great. But, I wanted to see how it looks in person before considering a spoiler.

I'm sure I'll get flak for it, but I really like the backend of the crossfire, and with no spoiler the hatchback fills in that look a little. But either way, I'll see when I gets here.


Aren't alone with the crossfire I also like the back end very much. I think the stock spoiler with slightly low profile stand would be amazing on yours~ Whole car looks like it's coming along very well can't wait to see the norms front end.

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i went to title my 2 fieros today and the dmv wanted 206 bucks just to title them! and the tax was only like 12 bucks a piece! 65 just to title a car in another name is a ripoff especially just to have it sitting in a driveway. and no i didnt pay it ill wait till im ready to license them.
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Originally posted by Niterrorz:

i went to title my 2 fieros today and the dmv wanted 206 bucks just to title them! and the tax was only like 12 bucks a piece! 65 just to title a car in another name is a ripoff especially just to have it sitting in a driveway. and no i didnt pay it ill wait till im ready to license them.


Yea it sucks, IL raised theirs from $65 to $95 for a title transfer

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Originally posted by Niterrorz:

i went to title my 2 fieros today and the dmv wanted 206 bucks just to title them! and the tax was only like 12 bucks a piece! 65 just to title a car in another name is a ripoff especially just to have it sitting in a driveway. and no i didnt pay it ill wait till im ready to license them.


Yeah and what is the answer they give you when you ask why you have to pay roughly 88 to 100 bucks each year to register a car?

They use the money on the roads.

BULL ****ING **** .

The roads around here are heaved almost 5 inches in some spots, laid in concrete and asphalt with a pitch towards the centerlane so all the ice forms there and causes your car to slid into oncoming traffic. The railroad crossings have caused more flatts and mufffler loss than nails in the road and me with a hacksaw. They feel that spending on average 1.5 MILLION dollars on a freaking Roundabout is a "safe" way to reduce and mediate traffic in deemed heavy traffic areas. But here is the best part: in the Wisconsin Drivers Education booklet, there is a one paragraph section that measures maybe 2 inches high about roundabouts and their purpose. NOWHERE DOES IT EXPLAIN HOW TO NAVIGATE THEM OR IS IT TAUGHT IN CLASSES.

It STILL isnt being taught even today when more and more intersections are being converted into this safety hazard. I took my Drivers ed class in the summer of 05. My sister took hers last winter, and now my Twin sisters are taking it and all say that there has been no mention of them even being in the booklet!


And yes i do spit venom at the roundabout theory and i have lost two great friends due to an idiot that didnt know how to navigate one.
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Originally posted by Niterrorz:

i went to title my 2 fieros today and the dmv wanted 206 bucks just to title them! and the tax was only like 12 bucks a piece! 65 just to title a car in another name is a ripoff especially just to have it sitting in a driveway. and no i didnt pay it ill wait till im ready to license them.


$65 is nothing compaired to what we have to pay for the car papers in France !
My Fiero cost 240€ (about $335) and my '77 Trans Am cost nearly 500€ (about $697) for their respective title papers (cartes grises).
You guys have got it easy in the States : cars are cheap, parts are cheap, petrol (gasoline) is cheap(er!) -- I think I'm going to move over there!
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$65 is nothing compaired to what we have to pay for the car papers in France !
My Fiero cost 240€ (about $335) and my '77 Trans Am cost nearly 500€ (about $697) for their respective title papers (cartes grises).
You guys have got it easy in the States : cars are cheap, parts are cheap, petrol (gasoline) is cheap(er!) -- I think I'm going to move over there!


If you do move over here, you are welcome in the midwest. Fieros on the road are too far and few
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$65 is nothing compaired to what we have to pay for the car papers in France !
My Fiero cost 240€ (about $335) and my '77 Trans Am cost nearly 500€ (about $697) for their respective title papers (cartes grises).
You guys have got it easy in the States : cars are cheap, parts are cheap, petrol (gasoline) is cheap(er!) -- I think I'm going to move over there!


ya well Europe is corrupt with VAT taxes and BS unfortunatly its getting that way here. id just say stay in france at least your retirement age is 62 and not what is it here now 85? lol well i dont think ill ever get to retire so that kinda explains that.
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Originally posted by Niterrorz:

i went to title my 2 fieros today and the dmv wanted 206 bucks just to title them! and the tax was only like 12 bucks a piece! 65 just to title a car in another name is a ripoff especially just to have it sitting in a driveway. and no i didn't pay it ill wait till I'm ready to license them.


So you are saying you bought or acquired 2 Fieros and you have the titles to them but the titles are the last owners name...........................and you are not going to put them in your name until you are ready to licence them. sounds kind of like what happened in this thread.
What happens if someone steals one of them .........gets it running and goes out and kills someone in a DUI accident. the driver runs away and guess you the cops go looking for....the last owner.

There's a reason you are supposed to do things like bother to put cars you own in your name.
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So you are saying you bought or acquired 2 Fieros and you have the titles to them but the titles are the last owners name...........................and you are not going to put them in your name until you are ready to licence them. sounds kind of like what happened in this thread.
What happens if someone steals one of them .........gets it running and goes out and kills someone in a DUI accident. the driver runs away and guess you the cops go looking for....the last owner.

There's a reason you are supposed to do things like bother to put cars you own in your name.


ya it does sorta sound like whats in this thread except im not driving them around like XzoticGT was and they are in my garage or blocked in on my driveway where there are 3 other vehicles that are worth stealing even more. 1 being my donor 98 buick rivera which i should sell vs cutting up but ive been having trouble finding a junk yard around here with a 3800 s2 sc (and i dont do that ebay crap) and i have an almost completely restored 86 fiero gt 5 spd (all it needs is a paintjob) plus 2 other daily drivers. so yes i should absolutely title them now without a doubt and if someone wants to come over and try to steal it by putting in the wrench time to get them running.. (one needs a starter and the other i havent even bother diagnosing because the motor is getting pulled anyway) then all i can say is i had it coming.
but wait you say what about the other people that you bought them from!??? ya i know them and they all live like 5 minutes away so all inquaries would be directed towards me.
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so yes i should absolutely title them now without a doubt and if someone wants to come over and try to steal it by putting in the wrench time to get them running...


In my cab back from the airport last week, the driver was complaining about his caddy had been stolen and he was getting the run-around from the parties involved with getting the car paid out, so he could get another car. Apparently they drug the car out of the parking spot it was in, and hauled it off on a flatbed.

It doesn't have to start and run to get stolen.
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LOL ya i know thats what i was thinking when i was replying but what can i say pay day is friday so hopfully (crosses fingers) no one will steal them by then. cus i just thought you had to pay the taxes to retitle and only had to fork out a **** ton of money when licensing them. i mean common comparably when i titled and licensed my 86 gt restore with collector plates it was 300 out the door for everything. and i NEVER have to have it inspected, emssion tested or renew plates as long as i own it.
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LOL ya i know thats what i was thinking when i was replying but what can i say pay day is friday so hopfully (crosses fingers) no one will steal them by then. cus i just thought you had to pay the taxes to retitle and only had to fork out a **** ton of money when licensing them. i mean common comparably when i titled and licensed my 86 gt restore with collector plates it was 300 out the door for everything. and i NEVER have to have it inspected, emssion tested or renew plates as long as i own it.


Remember, you can get it retitled without getting it registered. Retitling changes ownership, you dont have to register and get plates but its recommended due to late fees that come when you register it years later. I think the late fee is only ten or twenty bucks though.
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Back in the day we all lied like dogs on the bill of sale to keep the sales tax to the minimum. The last guy I sold a fiero to has not transfered title yet. He said they use a "classic car value" and the DMV told him had to pay sales tax on a $4000 estimated value. I sold it to him for $800. two years ago.

I have not bought an old car in over 10 years, and do not know if they have changed policies. This will suck if it's true.

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i went to title my 2 fieros today and the dmv wanted 206 bucks just to title them! and the tax was only like 12 bucks a piece! 65 just to title a car in another name is a ripoff especially just to have it sitting in a driveway. and no i didnt pay it ill wait till im ready to license them.


Until you put them in your name, the previous owners can go back into the DVM and get a duplicate title or worse junk the title... all without every telling you anything. Then after you put all the time, effort and $$$ into fixing them up, you go to the DMV just to get told the title you have in your hand is junk, worthless and you have no legal means of getting a title in your name... it happens.

If you can not affort to title a car, you shouldn't purchase it.
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I have an 84 Fiero that I drive once a year at most. I have owned several cars, my 86 was off the road for 2 years but I paid the fees and stayed in the law. It sucked and it hurt every time I had to pay but I was doing the right thing.
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I sold a $10,000 Gold wing last year to a private contractor working in Iraq. Sale as done over the internet and a friend of his took delivery of the bike, paid me and he got the signed off title. The new owner recently contacted me as he had never re-titled the bike and he had lost the title. I secured a replacement title for him at his expense. According to the state of Oregon I still owned the vehicle, but because I had reported the sale I could not be held liable. The moral of the story. Do the legal paperwork.

As for this thread....How about starting a new build thread becuase I really want to see how it turns out.

As for Sam, thanks for serving our country. I forgive the little white lie you told and I think you owe nothing to anyone.
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As for Sam, thanks for serving our country. I forgive the little white lie you told and I think you owe nothing to anyone.


Same here. I can't imagine what it would be like to have my career affected by something like this.

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LOL ya i know thats what i was thinking when i was replying but what can i say pay day is friday so hopfully (crosses fingers) no one will steal them by then. cus i just thought you had to pay the taxes to retitle and only had to fork out a **** ton of money when licensing them. i mean common comparably when i titled and licensed my 86 gt restore with collector plates it was 300 out the door for everything. and i NEVER have to have it inspected, emssion tested or renew plates as long as i own it.


ya well thats what i was doing was just titling it and thats how much it was.
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Forget even the fact of whose name the car is in. With any car being titled incorrectly you cant have insurance on them. Niterrorz if your garage sadly burns you will loose the car and all your work. And the one on here that says he bought it and never titled Am i wrong is understanding you more then likely were driving uninsured for 2 years? I titled my 88 that will not be running for a while just for this reason called my insurance added a rider to cover the car in the event of a mishap. I cant see putting all this time and money into things that have no fall backs on. Oh forgot to add the insurance on a garaged car is costing me a wopping 10 bucks a month.

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It may be a $500 car but theres about $10k of new stuff on it now



I'll bet its A LOT MORE than $10K. If thats all he paid, then sign me up!!

Rob

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Is there cliff notes? I only got to page 2
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You could just make a judgmental comment without knowing the whole story... most people don't seem to have any qualms about doing that anymore...

The Fiero is Keen's via an unfortunate lack of follow up on both sides. The seller did not report the sale and the buyer never transferred the title. The car was impounded after being found abandoned and Keen was found to be liable for all fees. Brilliant.

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Forget even the fact of whose name the car is in. With any car being titled incorrectly you cant have insurance on them. Niterrorz if your garage sadly burns you will loose the car and all your work. And the one on here that says he bought it and never titled Am i wrong is understanding you more then likely were driving uninsured for 2 years? I titled my 88 that will not be running for a while just for this reason called my insurance added a rider to cover the car in the event of a mishap. I cant see putting all this time and money into things that have no fall backs on. Oh forgot to add the insurance on a garaged car is costing me a wopping 10 bucks a month.



actually you can insure a vehicle that is not titled to you and if my garage burned down home owners insurance would cover that. but i get your point
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Archie,
Even though you never write me back, I still like the work you and your guys have done to that car. Very inventive.

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Archie,
Even though you never write me back, I still like the work you and your guys have done to that car. Very inventive.

Jay


I get about 130 emails a day & about 5 PM's. I might have missed your message, please try again or tell me your email addy so I can look for it.

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I get about 130 emails a day & about 5 PM's. I might have missed your message, please try again or tell me your email addy so I can look for it.

Archie


Sounds like you could use a secretary. Lol.
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Howdy,
It's ok, I understand how busy we all get from time to time. I myself included. Just mainly liking the job(s) I have seen from you. I guess no real content.
Just a good job!
from me on your work.
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What a mess. A few things come to mind, not the least of which is Keen's disparaging remarks about our Canadian allies. Here's a bit of breaking news--they beat the heck out of no allies at all. Ya want to complain--complain about all those nations that said--"No Thanks USA, , we'll just sit this one out".

You owe the Canadians an apology--period.

I wasn't crazy about working with the ARVN either, but they did the best they could--for that matter, there were a couple US Army units I sometimes wished would have stayed in compound, but they did what they thought was right, and they were a hell of a lot better than no support at all.
Secure areas? In combat? There are none. I flew from one of those so called "secured areas" every day. Took mortars and rockets, sapper attacks and sniperfire every week. I packed up more of my friends' personal belongings than i care to remember, going thru each article before sending back home to their parents and family. I hated it but it came with the job i signed on for.

As of March 2009, despite having only a tenth of the population of the states, Canadian losses in Afghanistan were 116 compared to American losses of 580.

Thanks Canada-- for doing what you've done to help.
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politics belong in off topic / the trash can imo...lets keep this to cars.
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politics belong in off topic / the trash can imo...lets keep this to cars.



Where was your sense of outrage back on page 5 when Keen first posted This?

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You owe the Canadians an apology--period.

Thanks Canada-- for doing what you've done to help.



Thanks Don, I've respected you and what you've had to say in these forums for a long time.

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I saw it and kept my mouth shut. My views...don't agree with most other people. But seriously if you want to talk politics etc; inc trash can.
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I saw it and kept my mouth shut.



Yet you felt compelled to speak up when Don posted. Interesting...

No one hates political commentary in the tech section more than I do at PFF, but sometimes people cross the line posting totally inappropriate comments which need to be addressed. I held off at the time that Keen posted his disgusting comments as I didn't wish to take the focus away from the emerging story. However, since the story itself now appears to have run its course, Don (or I) can hardly be accused of initiating or causing a distraction here.

I'm afraid I don't know the number of American soldiers who have made the ultimate sacrifice in Afghanistan, but at this point 152 Canadian soldiers have died over there. The last thing we need to be doing is fighting amongst ourselves.

My thanks again to Don for not being afraid to speak his mind, no matter how his views may or may not be appreciated.
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Who cares what a guy who can't even remember how much he sold a car for or who he sold to or how much it cost to get out of impound and says his car was stolen when it wasn't says????? I say considering the source let it die.....
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So, considering this is a build thread, how's the car coming along, Archie?

Pictures?

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So, considering this is a build thread, how's the car coming along, Archie?
Pictures?


I think the car's been completed at Archie's, and if I'm not mistaken its been moved to Norm's for some new fiberglass.

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I think the car's been completed at Archie's, and if I'm not mistaken its been moved to Norm's for some new fiberglass.



Yep! Mr Norm has been working on the hood. Talked to him a few days ago and the hood is mounted, wiring and such connected. Should be ready to go in a couple days. I was hoping to get it here in time to drive around a bit before the snow hits. Depending on the time it takes the auto shipper it might, but the snow is en route to the passes according to the news so it may not work out .

Does anyone have a link to any diagrams/pics/information about the hvac tubing in the car? I'm trying to plan out as much of it as possible ahead of time, although I'm sure Mr. Murphy will destroy that piece by piece. I found a good thread about cleaning and resealing the airbox, but I'm looking to improve the tubing and move it around to fit my dash design.

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Yep! Mr Norm has been working on the hood. Talked to him a few days ago and the hood is mounted, wiring and such connected. Should be ready to go in a couple days. CK




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Lol, Mr Norm is gonna post pics up. Car hauler is picking up the car tomorrow. Snow just landed here, ice and crap everywhere.
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