This is the Camaro unit I just finished on my GT. I have always liked the Magnaflow sound and quality and wanted something more on the quiet side for this car. The install is very very tight but doable. I had these tips which I liked more than the stock ones and I think they help a little too to quiet it down. The sound I think is great and exactly what I wanted. You get some bassy rumble at idle but cruising is on the quiet side. At WOT is noticeable but not look at me loud. And best of all it doesn't not sound ricey at all nor like a broken muffler like many chambered units. I will try to post a sound video soon.
In progress;
Finished at night;
On car;
What it replaced (came with car);
------------------ Red: TPI V8 + 6-Speed White: 3800SC auto 304rwHP/366rwTQ
Ya, good job! I like Magnaflow sound/qualiy also, but never thought one would fit. Do you have a rear swaybar and what year did it go in? I was trying to figure out how to fit one but thought it was too thick to fit between my trunk/swaybar...
Easier, cheaper, more freely flowing but not as quiet. Flowtech afterburner 50363FLT 3in 2.5 out
Your setup does look good and I'm sure it sounds great
Easier/cheaper/louder yes. More free flowing? Not too sure. Yes there are a lot of smaller chambered mufflers out there that will fit much easier. But boy are they loud and raspy. My red car is super loud so I have enough of that. I just wanted to show that this is an option more for the sleeper than the flashy. The inside of the muffler is a straight thru design that splits in two. And this thing is built like a tank. It will last forever. Don't know how they can build them to sell so cheap.
This is the same muffler that we use on our swaps that gives it that European sound. The headers and the internal muffer mod we do makes a beautiful note. Dave
This is the same muffler that we use on our swaps that gives it that European sound. The headers and the internal muffer mod we do makes a beautiful note. Dave
This is the same muffler that we use on our swaps that gives it that European sound. The headers and the internal muffer mod we do makes a beautiful note. Dave
OH, I remember that video, it did sound nice! Is that exhaust something your going to offer or maybe give the build specs to?
That is the video....We also used that muffler on Michael's 3800 turbo (Project CR3810N). We left the internal mod out on that setup and the car sounds stunning. I'd recommend this muffler to anyone. It is stainless steel and will probably outlast the engine. I also run it on my VR6. I don't have it installed on my 3800 because I wanted a different sound. Not to hijack this thread, I just think that the Magnaflow gives the 3800 a nice sound especially when matched with a nice set of headers. Dave
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Originally posted by bmwguru: .. Not to hijack this thread, I just think that the Magnaflow gives the 3800 a nice sound especially when matched with a nice set of headers. Dave
No hijack as we are talking about the same muffler and I do agree it sounds very nice.
This is the same muffler that we use on our swaps that gives it that European sound. The headers and the internal muffer mod we do makes a beautiful note. Dave
Do you have a video of that? I would love to hear the sound.
Also a general question for this thread: Can you compare Magnaflow to Borla? I had a Borla exhaust on my Mazda and loved the sound, but I never heard a Magnaflow on that same car.
Originally posted by Austrian Import: Can you compare Magnaflow to Borla?
Yes, They are similar. Magnaflow, like Borla makes all of their mufflers from 304 stainless. Unlike Borla, they use a mix of tubing for their systems - some is 304, some is 409. Borla only uses 304 for all their "parts". Magnaflow is similar to Borla in that they go for a throaty rumbling sound, but they are completely tolerable even at WOT. Flowmaster on the other hand tends to be louder under all conditions.
.. Magnaflow is similar to Borla in that they go for a throaty rumbling sound, but they are completely tolerable even at WOT. Flowmaster on the other hand tends to be louder under all conditions.
Definitely agree with that. I used to have the Fiero Borla version on my red car when it had the 3.4 and sound was similar.
Originally posted by Alex4mula: Definitely agree with that. I used to have the Fiero Borla version on my red car when it had the 3.4 and sound was similar.
Does anyone have a soundclip of a Fiero Borla exhaust. I was always curious what that sounds like.
Do you have a video of that? I would love to hear the sound.
Also a general question for this thread: Can you compare Magnaflow to Borla? I had a Borla exhaust on my Mazda and loved the sound, but I never heard a Magnaflow on that same car.
I'll get some videos this spring when the owner brings his car out for the Spring freshening. Dave
Originally posted by Alex4mula: This is the Camaro unit I just finished on my GT. I have always liked the Magnaflow sound and quality and wanted something more on the quiet side for this car. The install is very very tight but doable. I had these tips which I liked more than the stock ones and I think they help a little too to quiet it down. The sound I think is great and exactly what I wanted. You get some bassy rumble at idle but cruising is on the quiet side. At WOT is noticeable but not look at me loud. And best of all it doesn't not sound ricey at all nor like a broken muffler like many chambered units. I will try to post a sound video soon.
Is there not a Third Gen (I believe) version which offsets the inlet and places the outlets in the same location on both sides? It would make the install more uniform by eliminating the routing of one tail pipe under the muffler across to the other side for those wanting to duplicate the install if there's room. From what I recall on my old F body, the arrangement had the exhaust pipe go up over the passenger side tailpipe and into the muffler which is characteristic of how the OE Fiero muffler is arranged only the exhaust pipe goes underneath and enters at the bottom.
Is there not a Third Gen (I believe) version which offsets the inlet and places the outlets in the same location on both sides? It would make the install more uniform by eliminating the routing of one tail pipe under the muffler across to the other side for those wanting to duplicate the install if there's room. From what I recall on my old F body, the arrangement had the exhaust pipe go up over the passenger side tailpipe and into the muffler which is characteristic of how the OE Fiero muffler is arranged only the exhaust pipe goes underneath and enters at the bottom.
Sounds good.
Yes I have seen that but if I recall correctly the muffler is like 18" wide and that is the problem. This one is 14" wide and why it fits.
Yes I have seen that but if I recall correctly the muffler is like 18" wide and that is the problem. This one is 14" wide and why it fits.
Ya, I agree... I was trying to figure a way to get that Magnaflow 18" long muffler to fit. I measured every which way and could not get it in there w/o trunk modification. The bottom portion of the trunk would have to be made thinner by a couple inches. This was on an 88 w/ rear swaybar... Also the input elbow would be an issue as well if running the exhaust in the stock location; as you would not have enough room to make the bend...
Ya, I agree... I was trying to figure a way to get that Magnaflow 18" long muffler to fit. I measured every which way and could not get it in there w/o trunk modification. The bottom portion of the trunk would have to be made thinner by a couple inches. This was on an 88 w/ rear swaybar... Also the input elbow would be an issue as well if running the exhaust in the stock location; as you would not have enough room to make the bend...
You can make it fit by reworking the rear crossmember of the cradle - my car is an 88 with rear sway bar, the 18" long muffler and a stock truck:
You can make it fit by reworking the rear crossmember of the cradle - my car is an 88 with rear sway bar, the 18" long muffler and a stock truck:
Its funny you mention that as that is one of the things I was considering. Although I was trying to find an "easy" way to raise that crossmember up higher so the muffler would not be as visable from the rear...
That can't be a Borla exhaust. It sounds like crap. Either the video is low quality, or something else is wrong. I had a Borla on my Mazda and it sounded beautiful.
I've had my eyes on that Magnaflow 14" muffler like what Alex used. I wish one of the Fiero vendors would make OE style cat back systems with that muffler, 304 stainless tubing, and all the correct spring perches.
Alex, explain to me in lamen terms how to get this set up, cuz I hate the way my 3800sc sounds... It seriously souds like crap...
+1000. This is the only 3800SC I like the sound of. Previously I wasn't paying much attention to 3800SC's, or SC's in general. This car changed my mind. *bump* for more sound clips.
+1000. This is the only 3800SC I like the sound of. Previously I wasn't paying much attention to 3800SC's, or SC's in general. This car changed my mind. *bump* for more sound clips.
Got this video coming from Daytona. You can get a glimpse at WOT but not as long as I wished. Still some. Sounds about the same when done for longer. I don't like it but can't ask much to these 3800s. Sounds much better cruising (non WOT) as it sounds like in the previous video.
well still has that meh sounds of a 3800 BUT not as much of that terrible rasp that just kills it lol. Overall when i start getting my swap together this is the setup im going with!
