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getrag fluid by jim
Started on: 04-08-2012 02:52 PM
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I have seen post where its recommended to use synchromesh oil, like penzoil or royal purple. My question is do they mean royal purple 5w-30 motor oil or do they mean royal purple synchormax manual transmission fluid.
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Use GM synchromesh, or pensoil synchromesh. The GM is the best, pensoil is just a copy for about half the price.

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Royal Purple Synchromax, not the motor oil
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Another good choice is Amsoil synthetic synchromesh.
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Report this Post02-12-2014 01:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for nathnn99Send a Private Message to nathnn99Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I am new to Fieros and the forum, so please pardon my ignorance. I have an 88 with the getrag 5speed. My Haynes guide says use 5w30 of Dextron ii, depending on model. My Chilton's Guide says use 5w30. Here you say use Synchromesh. Can someone clear up the disconnect between the Haynes, Chilton's, and I believe you mentioned GM guidance? I bought Royal Purple 5w30. But will this not protect of lube my transmission properly? I want best of the right fluid to make my new fiero last.
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Originally posted by nathnn99:

Can someone clear up the disconnect...


Some of what you're reading dates back 25 years.

If you want the latest greatest... get some of the Synchromesh fluid that was suggested. It's all pretty much the same quality-wise. Get whatever is cheapest in your area.
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Early manual transmissions used 5 w 30 motor oil, but the lubricant specification was later changed. That's probably where the confusion comes in.

The GM Synchromesh Manual Transmission Fluid is a bit pricey. Usually over $20 per quart. The Pennzoil Synchromesh Manual Transmission Fluid, often found at AutoZone is supposedly the same for about half the price. Pennzoil is reputed to be the producer of the GM product,.

Anyone here have the 87 or 88 Maintenance Schedule booklet? The correct information is there.
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Report this Post02-12-2014 11:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tebaileySend a Private Message to tebaileyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I put synchromesh fluid in my 84 4 speed, shifts smooth as silk.

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I always thought gear oil went into manual transmissions. Well, a day is never wasted if you learn something new. Thank you, gentlemen for shedding some light on this.
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Originally posted by nathnn99:

I always thought gear oil went into manual transmissions. Well, a day is never wasted if you learn something new. Thank you, gentlemen for shedding some light on this.


Some even take automatic transmission fluid.

"Manual transmissions use a variety of transmission fluid ranging from regular motor oil to heavyweight hypoid gear oil. A few manufacturers even recommend automatic transmission fluid. It all depends on the vehicle, the tolerances, engineering and the type of driving you most commonly do."
Read more: http://www.ehow.com/list_75...s.html#ixzz2tDLKhwUr

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I always thought gear oil went into manual transmissions. Well, a day is never wasted if you learn something new. Thank you, gentlemen for shedding some light on this.


On my first Fiero, an 85 GT with a 4 speed, I had a garage replace the clutch when the pressure plate failed. It had only gone 80 miles when the transmission exploded. I later found out that they had filled the transmission with 80/90 weight hypoid gear oil.
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Oil engineering is very deep and will surprise you in the equivalencies of motor oil viscosities , for instance, to gear and auto trans fluid. For years I only ran gear oil. The change to the Pennzoil synchromesh helped the synchros greatly and did not leak past the output seals as some warn.
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Ok, I went to buy the Royal Purple Synchromesh, and it says on the bottle that it's for manual transmissions. Does that mean that it's heavy 80w90 like I should avoid? Or is it the thin stuff I need (5w30) with the additive to help the Syncros?
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I hope you're not going to be like this with every question you ask here.

If the bottle says "Synchromesh", it's the right stuff. Buy it.

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Well then, thank you
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Originally posted by TopNotch:

Another good choice is Amsoil synthetic synchromesh.


I will second that

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/...5w-30/?code=MTFQT-EA

at only $12,70 qt

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Brand loyalties aside, if it says "synchromesh" on the bottle, it's good to go.
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Report this Post02-14-2014 04:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for nathnn99Send a Private Message to nathnn99Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Once again, thank you all. Your insight is very appreciated.
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