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My first Fiero and a 3800sc swap by BlownFiero86
Started on | : 05-04-2012 11:55 PM |
Replies | : 197 (25403 views) |
Last post by | : BlownFiero86 on 11-13-2013 10:46 PM |
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May 4th, 2012
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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This build started off as a idea for me and a buddy at work to build a couple of fun sporty cars that got decent fuel milage. His car of choice was a 92 nissan 240 and I said it would have to be a GM car for me. I searched the net and found 3800 Fiero's and I new that was what I had to build. I remember my uncle having Fiero GT when I was younger and I thought it was an awesome car then. I got the car for $750 dollars and the wrecked donor car for $800, but now I had to figure out how to combine the two. After another web search I found this forum and hours and hours of looking through build threads I thought I had a good direction. I have not done any kind of swap before or have ever taken on a job this big, so my work is not professional. I do hope that it is good enough to some day join the number of build threads that I could not have done this without, I can not thank you guys enough for posts and pictures. Also I am new to forum, if some one could tell me how to post pics properly it would be much appreciated. Thank you for reading my thread I will try to post pics and info as soon and as much as I can. ------------------ 86GT, 3800SC, GETRAG [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-15-2012).]
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11:55 PM
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May 5th, 2012
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phonedawgz Member Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
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fierofan25 Member Posts: 994 From: ohio Registered: Apr 2007
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I am only about an hour away. If you need a hand. I would be glad to help. I am on my 3rd 3800 swap. Thanks
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12:57 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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01:13 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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These are some pics of the car the day I bought it. It was a basket case, the motor and trans are in the bed of my truck at the time the pic was taken. Didn't care because I knew I wasn't going to use the motor anyhow.
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01:18 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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 [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-05-2012).]
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01:19 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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these are a couple of pics of the doner car. 1998 buick riviera  [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-05-2012).]
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02:37 AM
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hercimer01 Member Posts: 2308 From: Rockford IL. Registered: Mar 2008
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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These are some pics of the removal of the engine and and some cleaning using high pressure steam and acid.  ------------------ 86GT, 3800SC, GETRAG [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-15-2012).]
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09:22 AM
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Stainless1911 Member Posts: 981 From: Davisburg Michigan Registered: Apr 2012
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Im not getting the pics, just a little icon.
Im getting most of the pics, just not yours. ^
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10:45 AM
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May 6th, 2012
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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 [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-07-2012).]
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11:06 PM
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Stainless1911 Member Posts: 981 From: Davisburg Michigan Registered: Apr 2012
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^ ...and again, no pic.
I can see the Fiero on the trailer just fine.
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11:08 PM
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May 7th, 2012
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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12:44 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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12:53 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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I picked up some aluminum engine cradle bushings from rodney
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12:58 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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I used an XTD stage 3 clutch, and a flywheel for camaro that I had a local machine shop mill down to the thickness of the factory fiero flywheel   [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-07-2012).]
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01:01 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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01:08 AM
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May 8th, 2012
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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I decided to make my own lower alt mount because I coudn't see spending all the money to buy one when I have a welder and some scrap metal. It may not look professional, but it works and was a whole lot cheaper this way.      ------------------ 86GT, 3800SC, GETRAG [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-15-2012).]
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04:17 AM
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nosrac Member Posts: 3520 From: Euless, TX, US Registered: Jan 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by BlownFiero86:
I decided to make my own lower alt mount because I coudn't see spending all the money to buy one when I have a welder and some scrap metal. It may not look professional, but it works and was a whole lot cheaper this way.

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Looks good. I'd buy it.
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04:46 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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08:07 AM
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ALJR Member Posts: 3765 From: Massachusetts Registered: Jul 2009
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Nice progress!
I might install the PS drive axel and articulate it through the full suspension travel; looks like it may come close to your low-mount alt.? It may also be sticking out too far, could cause clearance issues w/ the rear trunk wall?
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01:16 PM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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I took alot of measurments before hand and took the axle as high as the control arm will go and then set it up in the car to check to see if it would hit anything. I have alot room between it and the trunk and it would have to bend the frame or control arm before the axle would it it. I tried to think of everything, but as earlier stated I am by no means a professional. This is the kind of comments I love, because you might be able to think of ways to help me improve what I have done. Everyone knows two heads are better than one. LOL [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-08-2012).]
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11:09 PM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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May 9th, 2012
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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12:25 AM
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Stainless1911 Member Posts: 981 From: Davisburg Michigan Registered: Apr 2012
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nice.
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12:34 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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This pic shows how the manifold that I made turned out on the motor  [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-09-2012).]
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01:16 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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01:22 AM
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May 10th, 2012
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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I almost for got to show the pic of where I welded in the bung for the O2 sensor. Only running O2 sensor in one side, it should be good enough to allow it to run properly.  [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-10-2012).]
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03:58 AM
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nosrac Member Posts: 3520 From: Euless, TX, US Registered: Jan 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by BlownFiero86:
These are some pics of how both sides of the exhaust turned out.
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That is going to be VERY loud. Any muffler ot cat?
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08:03 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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Yes, I plan on having them turn out to the normal exhaust outlets. I will be using Magnaflow mufflers with 4the inch tips on the end of the mufflers. Will look similar but probably not as good as the red rulookin fiero build thread, if you have seen it.
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08:55 AM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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  ------------------ 86GT, 3800SC, GETRAG, true duals [This message has been edited by BlownFiero86 (edited 05-15-2012).]
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09:16 AM
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ALJR Member Posts: 3765 From: Massachusetts Registered: Jul 2009
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| quote | Originally posted by BlownFiero86:
These are some pics of how both sides of the exhaust turned out.


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Exhaust looks nice! So you checked and double checked that PS axle to Alt. clearance, right? Looking at the pics above, Its gonna be close... Or maybe its just the angle that is throwing me off... Also, make sure the CV joint is sitting in the cup. I tore a new boot because it slipped out and from the pressure of the bearing pressing against the rubber boot overnight, it popped through
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03:28 PM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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It is close, but the control arm can set completely against the upper frame and I still have about an inch and a half clearance. I 'll watch the axles and maybe find a way to support the control arm, I didn't even think about that, thank you.
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03:40 PM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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Taking a min. To look at pic I see what you mean about the axle clearance. It actually goes in between the alternater and the motor as it moves, it does look deceiving.
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03:44 PM
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ALJR Member Posts: 3765 From: Massachusetts Registered: Jul 2009
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| quote | Originally posted by BlownFiero86:
Taking a min. To look at pic I see what you mean about the axle clearance. It actually goes in between the alternater and the motor as it moves, it does look deceiving. |
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Ya, kinda hard to tell just from a pic  But now that you mention it, I do see how it is i nbetween... Make sure that alt. wire stays clear of the rear manifold... The wiring on my 3800 swap was one area I must have redun several times. Wanted to make it invisable while still staying clear of hot/moving parts...
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08:51 PM
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akademikjeanius Member Posts: 406 From: Dayton, OH Registered: Feb 2011
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| quote | Originally posted by BlownFiero86:


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Firstly, SAHWEET SWAP!!! Any idea on the official name or model number for those? Edit: Why don't I just ask RULOOKIN *DUH!!* [This message has been edited by akademikjeanius (edited 05-10-2012).]
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09:25 PM
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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Just thought I would share this pic. I think it might be my fav pic from the whole swap
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11:18 PM
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May 12th, 2012
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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May 15th, 2012
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BlownFiero86 Member Posts: 295 From: Jackson,Ohio,US Registered: May 2012
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