Just got back from a different welding shop. Much bigger outfit that before. The guy was like, "We can definitely fix that". I asked him about going tubular. He said they could do that too, but it's VERY pricey. He assured me that he could fix the cradle to be just as good as new or even tubular for $100. YAY!

I'll post pics when I pick it up next week.

I've been making tons of headway on the car. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to post any pics because PIP keeps giving me an error message saying "connection failed".

Got the cradle back from the welding shop. Looks brand new. Guy only charged me $60!

Finally finished cutting out the trunk and inner fender wells, grinding off all the old insulation mounting tabs and rusty areas, and sanding/wire-wheeling every part of the firewall and frame in the engine compartment and rear frame area.

Then I degreased everything. The used the Metal Prep/Etching stuff.

Last night I gave everything a nice good coat of POR-15 (Including my right hand). As soon as I can get PIP to work, I will be posting some pictures of the current state.

PIP works fine. Verify that your firewall settings didn't change.



Bob

Hey guys. Just wanted to let everyone know I'm still here and plan to finish the car. Was waiting on time and money, both of which seem to have worked themselves out. Been playing with the design of the car as well. Will post some pics soon. I even did a clay model!!! Stay tuned.


Glad to see Fierorog finally got around to making all the swap mounts for the 3800/4T65HD into an 88. I'll be placing my order soon so I can start mounting the motor.

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Finally got the garage cleaned out and ready to work again.

Also been playing with the final design of the car again.



Its a rough paint sketch, but it borrows some of my favorite design features from these really cool cars.

The fender curves and hips from this:


The front end is a mix of these:



The sides and exhaust from this:



The tail from this:


I may end up changing this a million more time by the time I'm ready to start the body, but I did make a clay model of it and it looked pretty sweet. Then the wife accidentally squished it. LOL

I never posted pics of the repaired subframe and the rusted out areas of the frame rails that were fixed. I'll try to get those up soon.

That looks pretty cool. I'm looking forward to seeing you bring it to life.



Bob

Due to going back to school and trying to open my own business, all while working full-time, it's been almost 3 years since I've had the time for money to work on the fiero.

I guess it's time to give up on my dream and sell this thing.

Anybody want to take over my project? I'll let everything I have for the car go for $2500. That includes the 88 car, which has been stripped down - all the rust removed and thoroughly coated, most of the original parts, many new front suspension parts, and the 3800 SC series II with auto trans.

This is a complete package deal. Not interested in parting this thing out for the next couple years, cause that would be too sad, so don'the ask. Individual pieces are not being sold separately. It is all or none.

If you are interested, call or text me at (765)506-2367.

No reason to give up on it. It may seem too much right now, but you've made great progress and you know eventually the bug will hit you again. One day you'll want to get back into a project like this and it would be a shame to start over after getting so far with it. Why not put a cover on it for now and hold on to it until you are ready.... One year....three years...ten years...twenty years... it's all the same. Don't give up on yourself or your dreams....Dreams don't have to happen over night.

Have your teenager finish the car! Don't sell it! Even if it's just a swap.

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Louis Duet --- Baldwin, Long Island, NY
"I'm old. I feel just like a beat up truck. I turn the engine but the engine doesn't turn.
I'm so alone, I feel just like somebody else. Man I ain't changed, but I know I ain't the same."
~J. Dylan
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"Blue" <= '85 Fiero GT 3800sc series 2
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"Boo" <= '81 Delorean DMC-12, VIN #5835, Stock PRV engine, Peugot 604 Intake manifold, Exhaust headers, Anti-3rd brake light

Finally got the time and money to work on the build. It's back on. Stay tuned!

P.S. Does anyone know who I can get the axles for my swap from? It's a 3800 SC out of a 2001 Grand Prix with the HD auto tranny going into my 1988 that had a 4 cyl w/ 5sp manual. I plan to use Fiero Rog mounts.

Great to hear the build is back on! I figured you wouldn't be able to stay away from it...

You have a PM concerning axles.

Thanks for the Axle info. Now I wish I would have saved my old axles. I think I did get the tripots with the new Trans, but thats about it.

Finished cleaning out the garage this weekend, so I could actually get to the car. Wife and kids have been piling junk in there for the last 3 years and you could barely even see the car. I also managed to get the motor moved into the garage so I could start tearing it apart. It came out of a running vehicle, but has been sitting in my driveway for almost 3 years, so I figured I would go through it and at least replace the gaskets and seals. I'll try to get some update pics posted real soon. Maybe this weekend.

I was reading back through this old build thread from the beginning, mainly to see what all I had originally planned and where I left off. I can't believe how much has changed since I started this project. The 15 yr old son that was helping me is now almost 19, married, and is serving in the Air Force at Holloman AFB in New Mexico. The 9 year old is now 14 and taller than me. He might be willing to help, but who knows. Nobody in my family expects me to finish this car after not working on it for 3+ years. The wife really just wants it out of the garage. I told her, the only way it is coming out is if I drive it out. LOL I also told her to build me a new garage to work in if she wanted this one freed up badly enough. She is too much of a tightwad to to do that though.

Stay with me folks. I need your imput and added motivation.

Heres more motivation, get working on it and get excited about it, even if its only a little at a time

Glad you are able to get back to it. Many projects like this get lost over time. I am stationed at Cannon AFB New Mexico. Holloman is not "to" far from me, its actually a nice base as well.

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If you need to see some patience, check out my build. Like you, the only way it's coming out of the garage is being driven. Hasn't happened much over the years.

If you enjoy it, keep working on it. We enjoy helping and watching.

Bob

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My Build

Finally got the motor inside.



Now, I need to start the tear down.

I also got the garage cleaned out and the car uncovered. (Mostly)



Stay tuned!

Ordered my coilovers from Fieroguru. Ordered more POR-15 to coat the cradle and rear suspension pieces. Been trying to order my swap motor & trans mounts from Fierorog, but we keep missing connections.

Still need swap axles, as I have no available pieces to build my.
Also need to figure out what all I need to do to this motor before mounting it. It was running when they pulled it from the 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP at the yard. But it did have 120,000 miles and has now been sitting in my driveway outside for almost 3 years. Thinking I should replace most of the gaskets at least. Going to get Fierorog's various alt relocation and tensioner pulley brackets. Also thought about changing SC pulley size. Any thoughts on all this???

Definitely reseal the engine with the exception of the head gaskets.
Start with stock pulley, change later if you want more power down the road, stock pulley will give plenty of power for now.

Edit to add....
Check supercharger coupler and change supercharger snout oil.
Replace the water pump.

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Lots of things going on over here at the homestead.

First, I got the tranny broke free from the motor



After a quick trip to Lowes to get the bolts I needed, I got it mounted to the engine stand.



And here is the first pile of stuff I managed to pull off it.



Most pics on stand





Got my gasket set in the mail from ZZP



And started tearing off the top end



Everybody says it's a good idea to replace the water pump, but mine looks brand new. In fact, I am surprised how clean this thing is for coming out of a car with 120K. Granted, it was running when it was pulled. But it also has been sitting outside in my driveway for the last 3 years. And I have yet to find a nest or anything nature related. And I can turn this thing over by hand pretty easily. Unfortunately, that has made it difficult getting the crankshaft pulley off the front. Any tips?



Got the supercharger pulled last night



Then, I came home today and found a nice little surprise waiting on my porch.



My coilovers from Fieroguru!



I can't wait to get this things out and play with them. But they were so nicely packed and I am no where near ready for them yet, I will have to resist the temptation.

Tips and feedback appreciated.

Stay tuned.

Everything has got to go! See something you like or want, send me a PM. And do it ASAP.

New car requires garage space immediately.

Whatever is left within a month is going to the scrap yard.

quote Originally posted by trotterlg: Dosen't anyone else see this ending badly? Larry

I got to give it to Larry, he was right from the beginning!

quote Originally posted by La fiera: I got to give it to Larry, he was right from the beginning!

Yes, Yes, I failed to complete my build. Mr. Larry is so wise.

Except, I'm not sure it all ended so badly...




Plus, I learned a lot about cars along the way.

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Gee Ed, why would you want that old thing?



👍🏼👍🏼

quote Originally posted by Corpsmen Ed: Plus, I learned a lot about cars along the way.

That's what counts and congrats on your new car! It is very nice!

Thanks guys. I am over the moon. It basically has everything already on it that I was going to do to my Fiero. And I got it for about what I would have spent on the total Fiero project. I just don't have to wait another 4 or 5 years to enjoy it. I'm not getting any younger.

Now what you have to do is join your local SCCA club and sign up for a track day!
You'll get an instructor that will help you become one with your new machine.
That's the only safe place you'll get to put your new car to perform to what it was
designed for. I'm an instructor myself! Good luck and enjoy your Evora!

I am happy to announce that a fellow Fiero Forum member stopped by my place today and purchased everything I had. It's all gone!

I could not be happier that the car will be going to a community member. Not only do I not have to haul it to a scrap yard, but I don't have to sell it off piecemeal and bit by bit.

I really appreciate all the feedback and support I have received from members over the years. Fieros will always hold a special place in my heart, as will the friends and contacts I have made on this site. I look forward to seeing all the great builds that continue and seeing these nice rides in person at various shows and cruises. Thanks again to everyone.

Very cool ending to this thread.

Our best to your best...

Been here since 2000 and have seen many projects started then abandoned. Also seen projects that took 10+ years to complete. Projects sometimes take 100's of hour to complete and not everyone has the time to spare. Except for my ragtop project I try to keep the mods mild to enjoy the car now not later.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "