I'm hoping to get a little insight here as to where to start to look for my problem.

This is what is happening. My car won't start. I'm getting about 45 psi at the rail and I am able to get it running and keep it running using starting fluid but as soon as I stop spraying it the car dies off.

Here's a little background. This car has been sitting for years. I've just changed the fuel tank for an aluminum one, I just put in a new in-line fuel pump (airtex 8445) an reran the fuel lines to accomedate the new pump. I also bought 6 used injectors and had them professional clean at a local shop (I did NOT get them flow tested). I'm having an issue with the fuel pump relay so I am by-passing it with a direct lead into the connector in the armrest. I currently have a mechanical fuel pressure gauge (from the Fierostore) reading the 45 psi.

I know I'm getting spark because it is running with starter fluid. I know I'm getting fuel to the rail cause my gauge is reading it. The injectors have been cleaned so that should at the very least get fluid through to start the car.

What's the next thing or things I should check?

EDIT: To make this easier to follow here is a list of things I have checked...

1. I AM getting spark (runs with starter fluid)
2. I AM getting fuel to the rail (fuel pressure gauge shows 45 psi)
3. NO check engine light with ignition on
4. Tach IS jumping when I try to start it
5. I AM getting power to both the INJ1 and INJ2 fuses
6. The check engine light is on, but when I pull the codes through the aldl, it only flashes the "12" code. No other codes

[This message has been edited by LeeR (edited 08-22-2013).]

You need to check for power at fuses labeled INJ1 and INJ2....not just on the output side, but on the input side.

edit: This is a 2.8, right?

[This message has been edited by Gall757 (edited 08-22-2013).]

quote Originally posted by Gall757: You need to check for power at fuses labeled INJ1 and INJ2....not just on the output side, but on the input side. edit: This is a 2.8, right?

Yes sir, it is a 2.8. Thanks for the quick response! I'll check those right now. I should be able to find them without a problem, but kust incase, can you tell me where they are located?

A little more info for you; The check engine light does NOT turn on with the ignition and the tach has movement when I try to start it.

[This message has been edited by LeeR (edited 08-22-2013).]

Just because you have power to the injectors doesn't mean that the computer is turning on the injectors. Think that would be my first thought, there are fuses to the computer. Larry

quote Originally posted by trotterlg: Just because you have power to the injectors doesn't mean that the computer is turning on the injectors. Think that would be my first thought, there are fuses to the computer. Larry

Thanks Larry! Other than the ECM IGN fuse, is there any other fuse/relay I should check?

I just fixed the problem with thhe fuel pump and the check engine light not flashing. The ECM ING fuse was not making good contact in the fuse block. I pulled it out and cleaned it up a little now the fuel pump is working without a jump and the check engine light comes on. The only thing with the check engine light is that when I try to pull the codes through the aldl it only flashes code "12". No other codes. So it confuses me why the check engine light is on if it wont pull up any codes!

On a side note, I just notice that NONE of the lights come on in the dash when I turn the ignition on except for the e-brake light and the check engine light. Shouldn't some of the other lights turn on with the switch?

[This message has been edited by LeeR (edited 08-22-2013).]

If you can get a test light to the injector wiring, it can tell you if it's pulsing. If you're getting a pulse, then it may be the injectors, meaning they may need to be removed and cleaned, especially if it's been sitting.

Check your fuses for corrosion, or just replace them all. A few months ago my wipers stopped working, turned out the fuse had corrosion.

Thanks for the help! I just had the injectors professionally cleaned, but I will look into swapping out the fuses!

Bump for a little more help! ECM? Ignition control module? What do you guys think?

Engine runs on starting fluid? 45 psi at the fuel rail? Injectors cleaned and tested? My guess is the injectors are not being fired then. Check for 12 volts at the injector harness on the pink and pink/white wires. That's the big flat connector over by the MAP sensor that splits into the various leads to the individual injectors. The blue/black and green/blue wires are the grounds and go to the ECM. If you have 12v going TO the injectors but the ECM does not ground them then they will never fire.

[This message has been edited by Hudini (edited 08-24-2013).]

Great info! Thanks for helping. I'm going to order an upgraded ecm from Chet here on the forums. Talked to him yesterday and he seems like a real cool guy. Hopefully this will take care of my problem!