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Anyone ever had any success in painting one of these.... by Gokart
Started on | : 05-11-2014 05:25 AM |
Replies | : 25 (1072 views) |
Last post by | : 2.5 on 07-08-2014 09:24 AM |
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May 11th, 2014
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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 I think it's called the windshield wiper cowl? Doesn't look bad in pic but I'm tempted to paint it with special plastic spray paint. I just don't want to do it and then regret it later if it starts peeling off or doesn't adhere everywhere like I've seen happen when painting plastics like this.
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05:25 AM
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rogergarrison Member Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
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Ive painted them with just satin black Krylon and no problems. Good cleaning first.
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06:39 AM
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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| quote | Originally posted by rogergarrison:
Ive painted them with just satin black Krylon and no problems. Good cleaning first. |
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Awesome! It'll look nice with a fresh cost of paint. Thanks Roger!
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07:14 AM
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FIEROPHREK Member Posts: 4424 From: a dig Registered: Mar 2004
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Clean the heck out of it and use krylon fusion brand paints that are for use on plastics. I painted my flight deck cranial and the paint worked great. ------------------
ARCHIES JUNK IS FASTER THAN SHAUNNA'S JUNK 12.3 is faster than a 13.2
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07:32 AM
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1MohrFiero Member Posts: 4363 From: Paducah, Ky Registered: Apr 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by rogergarrison:
Ive painted them with just satin black Krylon and no problems. Good cleaning first. |
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Ditto. Just clean it well. Adhesion primer seems to work well. It has lasted many years through many washings. ------------------
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08:32 AM
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jaskispyder Member Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
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Yup, painted without an issue. Just used a good brand of spray paint.
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10:11 AM
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fierosound Member Posts: 15208 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
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Yup - painted them on my cars. Clean the hell out of it. Krylon for plastic is your best bet, - no sanding or primer base coat needed. ------------------ Calgary time/temp
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11:07 AM
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hnthomps Member Posts: 5749 From: Columbia, SC Registered: Jul 2003
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Krylon spray paint in semigloss also worked for me.
Nelson
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01:32 PM
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Lou6t4gto Member Posts: 8436 From: sarasota Registered: May 2008
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As everyone pointed out, CLEAN ! then wipe it down with "Grease and wax remover". Fusion works best, spray it WET so you don't leave stripes or swirls.
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02:34 PM
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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Thanks and ratings for all! Wish I could twice for those I gave one already years ago
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05:30 PM
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May 12th, 2014
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2.5 Member Posts: 43235 From: Southern MN Registered: May 2007
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Wont "back to black" or something like it work on that instead of paint?
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10:20 AM
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
Wont "back to black" or something like it work on that instead of paint? |
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How long would those products last though. I'd rather take a chance and paint it and have it looking good a very long time!
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10:26 AM
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Jul 6th, 2014
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
Wont "back to black" or something like it work on that instead of paint? |
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Should've taken your advice. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/069618.html Maybe the abomination was because of the brand? It was Rust-o-leum plastic paint. Should've used the Krylon? Just thought I should put it out there.... prep was good with bad results
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07:54 PM
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IMSA GT Member Posts: 10606 From: California Registered: Aug 2007
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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Thanks! Very nice but pricey!! I'll see if I can get a good used one first.
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08:35 PM
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jaskispyder Member Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
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Back in the day, I used Bumper and Trim satin black paint. Never had an issue.
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09:53 PM
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lateFormula Member Posts: 1048 From: Detroit Rock City Registered: Jul 2002
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Read your linked post. You should not have used a pressure washer or denatured alcohol on that part. Dove soap really? I would have used a dishwashing soap like Dawn or Palmolive, no solvents. Let it dry indoors not out in the direct sunlight. When it is dry soak the part with spray can silicone (do this with the cowl panel off the car). Spray a heavy coating on both sides of it. Give it time to soak into the surface of the plastic. Re-spray it with silicone and the second time around wipe it down before the carrier evaporates.
Provided your cleaning was effective, this will make the part look like new.
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11:09 PM
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Jul 7th, 2014
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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| quote | Originally posted by lateFormula:
Read your linked post. You should not have used a pressure washer or denatured alcohol on that part. Dove soap really? I would have used a dishwashing soap like Dawn or Palmolive, no solvents. Let it dry indoors not out in the direct sunlight. When it is dry soak the part with spray can silicone (do this with the cowl panel off the car). Spray a heavy coating on both sides of it. Give it time to soak into the surface of the plastic. Re-spray it with silicone and the second time around wipe it down before the carrier evaporates.
Provided your cleaning was effective, this will make the part look like new. |
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No...not Dove. It was Dawn dishwashing soap! Got them mixed up (had a few beers last night!) I treated this part like any other body panel and had success in the past...but this part is different. I'll try your silicone treatment when I find a replacement. Thanks, Marc
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04:21 AM
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Boostdreamer Member Posts: 7175 From: Kingsport, Tennessee USA Registered: Jun 2007
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My plans for parts like that are to polish them. Haven't done any yet so no results or tips to post. Just another idea to out out there.
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08:00 AM
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2.5 Member Posts: 43235 From: Southern MN Registered: May 2007
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If the part has had armor all or tire shine or another vinyl or rubber protectant applied alot in the past it may be hard to get clean and degreased enough for paint to stick and last?
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10:39 AM
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
If the part has had armor all or tire shine or another vinyl or rubber protectant applied alot in the past it may be hard to get clean and degreased enough for paint to stick and last? |
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It likely did. That's why I thought washing it with Dawn and then pressure washing it after was a good idea?! Maybe it was cleaning it with denatured alcohol that wasn't such a good idea before I painted. The alcohol was evaporated but maybe left a chemical behind that mixed with the paint causing the issue? [This message has been edited by Gokart (edited 07-07-2014).]
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11:56 AM
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lateFormula Member Posts: 1048 From: Detroit Rock City Registered: Jul 2002
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Just a few points to add...
Denatured alcohol is fine and good for use on brand new plastic pieces. Plastic that is fresh has a skin which for most grades of plastics (especially those used in automotive applications) will be chemical resistant. But in this case the part is at least 26 years old and has been exposed to the environment all that time. The combination of UV, heat cycling in the summer months, and interaction with naturally occurring ozone is what destroys old plastic. Over time and interaction with the environmental factors the skin of the plastic degrades which will significantly affect the chemical resistance of the plastic. I believe that the combination of the denatured alcohol and the pressure washing is what pitted the surface of your cowl.
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01:51 PM
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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| quote | Originally posted by lateFormula:
Just a few points to add...
Denatured alcohol is fine and good for use on brand new plastic pieces. Plastic that is fresh has a skin which for most grades of plastics (especially those used in automotive applications) will be chemical resistant. But in this case the part is at least 26 years old and has been exposed to the environment all that time. The combination of UV, heat cycling in the summer months, and interaction with naturally occurring ozone is what destroys old plastic. Over time and interaction with the environmental factors the skin of the plastic degrades which will significantly affect the chemical resistance of the plastic. I believe that the combination of the denatured alcohol and the pressure washing is what pitted the surface of your cowl. |
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I could've avoided the embarrassment of destroying this cowl but felt I had to share my experience so others will have better luck! I believe your theory regarding the old plastic. I think it was just the denatured alcohol that sabotaged my painting. I had the gun far away and the highest nozzle (40) and it was a quick rinse. When I was done there was absolutely no pitting. It was still very smooth.
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07:53 PM
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hnthomps Member Posts: 5749 From: Columbia, SC Registered: Jul 2003
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I just hand washed my cowl, dried it, and used Krylon Fusion paint on it. That was about three years ago and it still looks very good (done on a 87 Mera show car).
Nelson
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08:51 PM
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Jul 8th, 2014
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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| quote | Originally posted by hnthomps:
I just hand washed my cowl, dried it, and used Krylon Fusion paint on it. That was about three years ago and it still looks very good (done on a 87 Mera show car).
Nelson |
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I wish I would've used that Krylon brand. I thought Rustolem paint for plastic would've been just as good but I'm curious if my results would've been different!?!
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05:12 AM
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2.5 Member Posts: 43235 From: Southern MN Registered: May 2007
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I have had good luck with anything Rustoleum, they are as good as Krylon IMO. I use "rubbing alcohol" on pretty much every material before painting and havent had an issue with that either. But I havent painted a Fiero cowl.
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09:24 AM
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