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What window track part do I need here? by FieroCat
Started on: 12-01-2014 12:27 AM
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Report this Post12-01-2014 12:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hi all, a few months ago I accidentally banged my driver's door glass into a pole in my garage, which did not break the glass, but busted something inside the track that holds the glass. It caused the glass to move around freely inside the door, which makes it difficult to close the door, for fear of shattering the glass while closing it in the wrong position.

Today I totally removed the inner and outer door skins to find the problem. Turns out that the part of the window guide that fits into the vertical track should have some sort of wheel/washer around it but does not, which is what must have busted. My question is this: what is this part, where can I find it, and how is it installed?

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Report this Post12-01-2014 07:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You're correct, it is a roller however when I tried to source the part number from the P22 (parts manual) the roller isn't listed as a separate part. You may be out of luck and might need to find a used lower assembly. For what it's worth, that metal guide that it's attached to is called a Window Glass Regulator Cam (GM part number 20364929) for driver's side.
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Report this Post12-01-2014 12:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What constitutes the lower assembly exactly, is it basically the metal bracket that the glass is attached to? Lots of rivet work here, sounds like.

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Report this Post12-01-2014 04:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The part is number 78 in the diagram below.

There are two rivets to drill out but it's easy once you've gotten the inner and/or outer door skins off. Most people replace the rivets with 1/4" dia bolts. It would be a good time to replace your door glass if it's scratched from dirty felt stabilizers. The glass isn't that expensive... just be certain to replace the dew wipes too since the felts are part of the dew wipe and if they're worn out, they'll scratch your new glass as well.

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Report this Post12-01-2014 04:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Great info, thanks. I have new dew wipes and felt guides on order, and still have the door skins off so this sounds doable. Can new door glass be obtained? Or is this something to get used?

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Dorman.com make (made in past?) roller "kits" that might work.
You carefully drill out old and instal new roller and "axle."

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Report this Post12-01-2014 06:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by FieroCat:
Can new door glass be obtained? Or is this something to get used?


Try contacting Prosource here for new glass: www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/092897.html
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Report this Post12-09-2014 02:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So, I am still trying to source the window cam assembly, but I read in an archived topic that the plastic rollers themselves can be snapped onto the stud? Ogre, were you able to successfully get one on? I found the Dorman 74430 window rollers, so if I can just pop one off of the studs they come with in the package and snap it onto my existing stud, that would be awesome.

I noticed there are 3 rollers in the package and one is different, it spins freely and twists a bit while the others are stiff. Which one is the one to use?

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Report this Post12-10-2014 12:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroCatSend a Private Message to FieroCatEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here are the three rollers. I was able to pop all of them off the studs, and it was easy to pop them back on.

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Originally posted by FieroCat:

Here are the three rollers. I was able to pop all of them off the studs, and it was easy to pop them back on.


Great! A Dorman part number is even better !! Dorman PN 74430

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Originally posted by fierosound:

Great! A Dorman part number would have been even better !! ;-)


LOL... that would make things much too easy!
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Report this Post12-02-2022 11:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cyrus88Send a Private Message to cyrus88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Unfortunately the diameter of the dorman roller is smaller than the Fiero's. I don't know if it makes a difference.

Edited to add:

88 Fiero manual window rollers measured OD = 1.083"

Dorman 74430 OD = .95" to .97"

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