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Is the 1985 corvette instrument cluster a by Silvertown
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feasible swap into the fiero. Looks like it would be a perfect fit.
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Ive seen Cavalier Z24 digital dashes in Fiero, but not a Corvette. I had 2 C4s with the dash.They are a bit troublesome, I sent both I had out to a company that rebuilt them to like new for $200. They worked fine after that. There are 4 little light bulbs that backlite the panel and they are expensive...about $30 each. I think I still have a few still in boxes .
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Ive seen Cavalier Z24 digital dashes in Fiero, but not a Corvette. I had 2 C4s with the dash.They are a bit troublesome, I sent both I had out to a company that rebuilt them to like new for $200. They worked fine after that. There are 4 little light bulbs that backlite the panel and they are expensive...about $30 each. I think I still have a few still in boxes .


That z28 dash looks nice in the fiero. Also think the s10/bravada cluster would look good in it. The fiero engineers had such foresight in the car but dropped the ball on easy upgrades with so many gm cars sharring components. I would love to meet the person who signed off on the 2 piece gt tail light with the seam running down the middle of the pontiac script. What an idiot.
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I agree on the tail lite. It should have been all one panel, or made into 3. That was as smart as a 2 piece windshield was, lol.
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look at the 85-88 sunbird gauges for something different if you decide to put in a 3800 I actually got a set from a gmc syclone.
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What might prove popular is a half moon shape speedometer cluster that could be adapted and bolted in place of the dated rectangular console. Look at the the 1990 Fiero prototype dash cluster and see how it modernizes the interior appearance. It looks like that may be the Firebird cluster.

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Originally posted by mmeyer86gt/gtp:

look at the 85-88 sunbird gauges for something different if you decide to put in a 3800 I actually got a set from a gmc syclone.

Someone parted out a syclone. WOW.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

What might prove popular is a half moon shape speedometer cluster that could be adapted and bolted in place of the dated rectangular console. Look at the the 1990 Fiero prototype dash cluster and see how it modernizes the interior appearance. It looks like that may be the Firebird cluster.



There once was someone selling fiberglass pods/bezels that could be used to install the Firebird cluster, to mimic the prototype. I don't think those are available any more, so if you don't have the skills to build a pod yourself, you'll probably have a hard time getting a nice looking version of it installed. IIRC, the prototype Fiero cluster was actually different, but with the car's cancellation, the cluster styling got re-purposed and updated for the 93 F-body cars.
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Originally posted by Silvertown:

Someone parted out a syclone. WOW.


Or upgraded the gauges to aftermarkets or something newer OEM. Or wrecked a Syclone. $$$ on Syclone meets a tree.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dobey:


There once was someone selling fiberglass pods/bezels that could be used to install the Firebird cluster, to mimic the prototype. I don't think those are available any more, so if you don't have the skills to build a pod yourself, you'll probably have a hard time getting a nice looking version of it installed. IIRC, the prototype Fiero cluster was actually different, but with the car's cancellation, the cluster styling got re-purposed and updated for the 93 F-body cars.[/QUOT

I actually like the fiero interior structure overall. Thought the prototype would be an improvent. Not the whole car just the dash pod. When the higher ups saw the outside of the 90 prototype is when they killed it. Can't say I blame them.

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Originally posted by Silvertown:
I actually like the fiero interior structure overall. Thought the prototype would be an improvent. Not the whole car just the dash pod. When the higher ups saw the outside of the 90 prototype is when they killed it. Can't say I blame them.


It wasn't killed because of the design. Much of the design was adapted over for the 4th gen F-bodies. The tail lights got used on some 92 Firebirds, too.
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Originally posted by dobey:


It wasn't killed because of the design. Much of the design was adapted over for the 4th gen F-bodies. The tail lights got used on some 92 Firebirds, too.



I got rid of my 85 gt when the gen 4s came out. Great lite cars. I don't plan on getting rid of my current fiero but if someone were to offer a trade for a 2002 ws6 ta it be tough not to. Was looking at a sweet firehawk but he wanted too much for it. But it was a very clean car just not $12000 clean.
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Originally posted by Silvertown:

I actually like the fiero interior structure overall. Thought the prototype would be an improvent. Not the whole car just the dash pod. When the higher ups saw the outside of the 90 prototype is when they killed it. Can't say I blame them.


I think the original interior is excellent....

As for the prototype... lets face it... you have a whole plant devoted to one product that was selling something like 20K cars in the final year. This is what killed the Fiero... not-profitable enough at that point.

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Originally posted by Silvertown:

Someone parted out a syclone. WOW.


https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/5178100087.html

local syclone, beater truck. Thought about buying this one last month.

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Originally posted by jaskispyder:


I think the original interior is excellent....

As for the prototype... lets face it... you have a whole plant devoted to one product that was selling something like 20K cars in the final year. This is what killed the Fiero... not-profitable enough at that point.


But they sold more than corvettes over a 5 year period. I remember reading in one the periodicals at that time when fieros were selling like hot cakes 84-85 that chevrolet wanted in on the action and pontiac slammed the door in their face. Oh what could have been. Pontiac was never supposed to develop fiero into what was coming on as corvette killer. Large wheel openings? Pontiacs response "it's a commuter car. Indy body work. "It's a commuter car. V6 engine. "It's a commuter car. Lotus like suspension. Cheviolets response was "commuter car my #$@. Pontiac was using the same playbook chevrolet used in 1953,55,57 with the corvette.

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https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/5178100087.html

local syclone, beater truck. Thought about buying this one last month.

RJ

I would check that thing over for rust. They have a lot of problems with rust under all that fiberglass cladding. Big reason why people don't want them.

someone had my cluster on ebay as a sunbird cluster I bought it now for $50 shipped when I saw it, then when installing it I found out it was a syclone unit. They sell on ebay for btw 200-400 dollars.

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Originally posted by mmeyer86gt/gtp:

I would check that thing over for rust. They have a lot of problems with rust under all that fiberglass cladding. Big reason why people don't want them.

someone had my cluster on ebay as a sunbird cluster I bought it now for $50 shipped when I saw it, then when installing it I found out it was a syclone unit. They sell on ebay for btw 200-400 dollars.


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Just my personal opinion, but as the owner of an 88 Fiero GT and an 87 Corvette, I'd MUCH rather swap a Fiero instrument cluster into the Corvette rather than the other way around
To me, analog is much more readable than digital.........

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Originally posted by Rodrv6:

Just my personal opinion, but as the owner of an 88 Fiero GT and an 87 Corvette, I'd MUCH rather swap a Fiero instrument cluster into the Corvette rather than the other way around
To me, analog is much more readable than digital.........



I'm not unhappy with the fiero cluster. The only problem I have with interior is its material. I'm just thinking of ideas. I worked in auto upholstery for seven years so even though my car is almost like new inside I want to update it to what I think the engineers missed out on. It would have to be a plug and play scenario for me on the cluster cause there is no way I'm cutting into the harnesses. But the 85 vette cluster looks spartan now but back then it was revolutionary for the vette.

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Originally posted by Rodrv6:
Just my personal opinion, but as the owner of an 88 Fiero GT and an 87 Corvette, I'd MUCH rather swap a Fiero instrument cluster into the Corvette rather than the other way around
To me, analog is much more readable than digital.........


Analog is more accurate, but less precise.
Digital is more precise, but less accurate.

Digital can approach accuracy of analog, as in the Lexus LFA.

I'd rather have the Fiero's gauges though, because the C4 gauges are LCDs from the 80s, and can be painful and costly to repair. Or rather, I'd rather have more modern Pontiac gauges, like the G8 has, combined with a good HUD setup. The gauges on the dash itself should be something good for glancing at to get enough information, because your eyes should be focused on the road, and capturing the environment around you, rather than concentrating on determining whether you're going 55 or 56 MPH.
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Regarding prototype dash pod: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/095607.html

Cavalier gauge pod install: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...130314-1-058885.html

Amida's G1 Dash install: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/091367.html

If you can do your own upholstery, and want a modern looking dash that's bolt-in, you might want to look at this last thread, and see if you can get the G1 dash from Rob. It's I think the best bolt-in option, but IIRC, he makes these in his spare time, so may take a while for you to get one.
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Originally posted by dobey:

Regarding prototype dash pod: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/095607.html

Cavalier gauge pod install: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...130314-1-058885.html

Amida's G1 Dash install: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/091367.html

If you can do your own upholstery, and want a modern looking dash that's bolt-in, you might want to look at this last thread, and see if you can get the G1 dash from Rob. It's I think the best bolt-in option, but IIRC, he makes these in his spare time, so may take a while for you to get one.


That firebird looks great except for the gap.

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