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Please help me get ALDL data by tnkgnr
Started on: 10-28-2015 10:09 PM
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Report this Post10-28-2015 10:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tnkgnrSend a Private Message to tnkgnrEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hi all,

I just received my ALDL from Phonedawgz and am having some issues getting my data. I have a 3.4l p/r using the 7170 ECM. I've followed the YouTube videos he has. In TunerPro RT, I can get a good test through the cable, but when I link it up to the car and click the acquire data button, it just keeps trying to connect forever. I'm using the 24.ads file converted to adx and imported. I then went over to WinALDL to see if I had better luck there. When I try WinALDL, it appears to attempt some sort of raw data, but nothing from the sensors. When I unplug my cable, that minimal amount goes away. I appreciate any help or ideas you can throw my way. Here's what I'm looking at:
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Report this Post10-28-2015 10:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I had used WinALDL successfully with a couple of different Fieros, but had trouble when I tried to use it with my '88 Formula when I got it a couple years ago. It wasn't until I swapped over the BAUD rate that things started happening. Worth a try for you, as it's a simple change.
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Report this Post10-28-2015 10:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tnkgnrSend a Private Message to tnkgnrEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yea, I had switched over to 2400. When I did so, it added a sixth data stream for MPH, and everything was more erratic (and still no sensor info).
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Report this Post10-28-2015 11:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

It might've been the BAUD rate for the COM Port on my laptop that I changed. Anyway, after changing the BAUD rate somewhere to a value that I didn't think would work... it did.
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Report this Post10-29-2015 07:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for f85gtronSend a Private Message to f85gtronEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Are you using the resistor?
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Report this Post10-29-2015 08:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
9 pin Com ports or USB serial and using w/ serial ALDL cable?
Allot of USB and 9 pin Com ports won't work w/ ECM data streams because can't accept non standard bit rates.
Is why many use USB to ALDL cable.

Many ALDL ports get damage from twits trying to see ECM error codes.

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Report this Post10-29-2015 06:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tnkgnrSend a Private Message to tnkgnrEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'm using this cable set, which is a 12 pin USB setup: http://www.reddevilriver.com/aldl.html

I tried selecting a variety of different BAUD rates and different settings on the COM port, but none affected the operation.

I have tried using with and without the resistor jumpered, as well as with and then without, or without and then with.
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Report this Post10-30-2015 08:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
On the disk under USB Direct ADX definitions is 1985 - 88 L44 2.8L V6 Pontiac Fiero $24 $24A.adx. Try that one and see what happens.

If the the cable test comes back as valid in TunerPro RT, then your COM port is set correctly. The baud rate is embedded in the .adx file. That overrides the COM port speed settings for the individual port. So changing that won't make a difference when using TunerPro RT.

You do want to have the resistor (jumper) in place for scanning a 7170 ECM.

TunerPro RT is the program you do want to use for scanning. It is better in so many ways.

[This message has been edited by phonedawgz (edited 10-30-2015).]

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Report this Post10-30-2015 09:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tnkgnrSend a Private Message to tnkgnrEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I tried the file indicated, but there was no effect. TunerPro still just tries to connect forever.

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Report this Post10-30-2015 04:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Cables are tested after they are made however would you like to try a different cable?
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Report this Post10-30-2015 07:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tnkgnrSend a Private Message to tnkgnrEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I guess a new cable is worth a try. I was hoping someone would see the screenshots and tell me I had set something up wrong.
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