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Valve spring compressor tool.... how does this one work? by doublec4
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I'm in the process of changing the rockers and valve springs on my L67 so I picked up a valve spring compressor tool from my local tool store. On the box it states that it will remove/compress the valve springs without removing the cylinder head... It comes with no manual / instructions / pictorial and I'm having a hard time figuring out how to use this without having to remove the head. Every other valve spring compressor that I've seen that looks like this hooks around the head once it is removed... which is clearly not what I want to do.

Can anyone see how this is supposed to work?



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Report this Post03-13-2016 10:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lancer-AMSend a Private Message to Lancer-AMEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Not sure why it said you don't have to remove the head, that is the only way that type will work. It is a true pain in the ass too if they are really heavy springs too. Most kinds that don't require the head to come off will screw into the head.
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It may not look like much but this is really one of the best tools for doing it while the heads are on.http://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-648546-Valve-Spring-Compressor/dp/B002IO0164
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Report this Post03-13-2016 10:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yeah I might just make my own.... I really can't see how this thing works without removing the head. I thought maybe that second attachment had something to do with it, but I can't for the life of me see how it works.
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The one you show is when the head is off. It has to reach around to the large end of the valve to work.
There are valve spring compressors that look like oversized battery terminal removers, are the best to use. They have a set of jaws that grab the bottom of the spring and a hand screw that pushes down from the top. Those are the only ones that I will use while using compressed air to keep the valve in place.
The lever type does work, but it is very easy to push down on the valve and loose the compressed air in the cylinder. However there is an old trick to use them.
This is going to sound very ghetto, but does work. You are going to have to remove the rockers and spark plugs anyway.
Get about 5' of soft clothsline, yes clothsline. The soft cottony kind. With the spark plugs out it should be easy to rotate the engine around by hand. One cylinder at a time. Lower the piston on the cylinder that you are working on. Coat the clothsline lightly with oil. Through the spark plug hole, fill the cylinder with the soft cloths line and leave about 6" out to retrieve it when done. "By Hand" turn the engine until the cloths line pushes up on the valves. You'll feel it. Now you can use the lever type compressor to push the spring down. If the valve moves down with the lever too far, back the cylinder down and refill with the clothsline. It is normal for the valve to move down about 1/4" untill it compresses the clothsline some. The clothsline just keeps the valve from falling into the cylinder and being soft, unless you are abusive, doesn't damage the valve. When finished with valve springs and valve seals while you are there, reinstall the keepers, back down the piston and remove the clothsline. Next cylinder. Yeah, by the way, make sure you have one of those little magnet pocket screwdrivers. Make working with the keepers much easier.

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You should be able to borrow one from your local auto parts store (chain).

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Report this Post03-14-2016 08:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
This is the best tool for removing pushrods and lower intake with the heads on the vehicle. Fast and simple to use. Doesn't upset the adjustment of the valves if the pushrods are put back in the same place they came from.

I found mine at an IAPA parts store like CarQuest, but you might be able to find them at NAPA since they also sell Lisle tools.

http://www.lislecorp.com/di...roducts/?product=632

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Originally posted by doublec4:

I'm in the process of changing the rockers and valve springs on my L67 so I picked up a valve spring compressor tool from my local tool store. On the box it states that it will remove/compress the valve springs without removing the cylinder head... It comes with no manual / instructions / pictorial and I'm having a hard time figuring out how to use this without having to remove the head. Every other valve spring compressor that I've seen that looks like this hooks around the head once it is removed... which is clearly not what I want to do.

Can anyone see how this is supposed to work?



Thanks!



That is for the head off, the rod goes against the valve face and the other side the spring, squeeze the lever and it compresses the spring.
That is the type I have always used, but I have always had the heads off.
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Report this Post03-16-2016 12:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for doublec4Send a Private Message to doublec4Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks guys. I ended up making my own tool from a steering wheel puller. Works great and didn't cost me a dime since I already had it. Saved me the run around too.

I've finished one bank, leaving the other side for tomorrow. I've put each cylinder at TDC and used the compression tester hooked up to my compressor to provide pressure... although I did let the pressure drop a few times and I noticed that the valves still stay up with the "stick-tion" from the valve stem seal.

Going with the yellow LS6 springs and yella terra roller rockers

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