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New HR6 compressor PAG 46 or 150 PAG? by fierobug
Started on: 06-26-2016 11:11 AM
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Report this Post06-26-2016 11:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierobugSend a Private Message to fierobugEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Would somebody please clarify which oil to use for the HR6 compressor. It is an everco four seasons. Autozone has PAG 46 stated. Gm has 150 PAG recommended for HR6 compressors. I am going to call SMP corporation that owns them tomorrow to clarify but need your input to help.

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Report this Post06-26-2016 12:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tebaileySend a Private Message to tebaileyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
This may start a war, but I used ester oil. It was listed as compatible with R-12 and R-134, so any bits of oil that were left in the system wouldn't cause any problems. Been running great for 3 yrs now with out any problems. And I'm using the same Auto Zone HR-6 compressor.

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Report this Post06-26-2016 06:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
PAG oil is only recommended for OEM use when a brand new system is installed. It easily gets contaminated when put in old R-12 systems. . Ester oil is the preferred oil when doing an R-134a conversion. I've used Ester oil in my 3800SC swap with the GTP A/C compressor and 6 years later the A/C is still blows very cold air. .

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Report this Post06-26-2016 07:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Typically the compressor will come with instructions on what oil to use. Usually with new compressors, it's PAG46.
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Report this Post06-26-2016 08:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for liv4GodSend a Private Message to liv4GodEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What is the difference between the HR6 and DA6 compressors? Can either be used on v-6 Fiero or is one of them better to use?
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Report this Post06-27-2016 12:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sardonyx247Click Here to visit sardonyx247's HomePageSend a Private Message to sardonyx247Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
do NOT use PAG oil, unless you replaced EVERYTHING in the system, all lines EVERY line, condenser, evaporator EVERYTHING. Use ester oil.

DA6 Vs HR6
HR6 is better for 134a, otherwise outside is identical.

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Report this Post06-27-2016 04:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierobugSend a Private Message to fierobugEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
THanks guys this will be my second attempt - 1st was conversion got a few years out of the reman - then sludged up. Will continue with ester oil.
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Report this Post06-27-2016 05:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PonnariSend a Private Message to PonnariEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Exactly what "sardonyx247" stated above! I did mine and it's been running for over 4 years now, no recharge and no issues, blows ice cold. Car get about 200 mile a week put on it.
I live outside of Seattle, WA. summers mostly high 70's to mid 80's but we do get runs of mid to high 90's. My driving is about 70* rush hour and 30* freeway.
Best of luck with your project!

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Originally posted by fierobug:

Would somebody please clarify which oil to use for the HR6 compressor. It is an everco four seasons. Autozone has PAG 46 stated. Gm has 150 PAG recommended for HR6 compressors. I am going to call SMP corporation that owns them tomorrow to clarify but need your input to help.



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Originally posted by fierobug:

THanks guys this will be my second attempt - 1st was conversion got a few years out of the reman - then sludged up. Will continue with ester oil.


If your A/C system is "sludged up" it must be flushed clean before recharging paying careful attention to the condenser. PAG oil is only recommended to be used in perfectly clean new systems. Ester is the recommended oil for a R134a conversion.

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