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WIndow motor swap- what rivets to use by cam-a-lot
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Hello
Does anyone know what is the correct rivet to purchase to swap the window motor? I did a search on the forum but can't seem to find this info

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Most people just bolt them in.
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Originally posted by cam-a-lot:

Does anyone know what is the correct rivet to purchase to swap the window motor? I did a search on the forum but can't seem to find this info


In Factory Service Manual - Section - Doors

Replaced all motors in both my cars last year.

Window motor and almost everything on door is 1/4" x 1/2" aluminum. You'll need about 12 per door.
Also a couple of smaller ones, for door lock rod bracket.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...130314-2-111836.html






You'll need something like this to install them.



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IMO, the answer to this question is "none". You can certainly use rivets (and I have in the past) but I think M6 or 1/4-20 bolts and nuts (I like washer heads for this) are a better choice. Easier to install, better retention (assuming proper torque and Loctite), easier service later.
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just use Bolts, makes it alot easier if you ever have to take them out or adjust. factory used rivets because they are Cheap.
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Report this Post05-07-2020 03:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks to everyone for your advice

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Like said, Nut & Bolts are the way to go...I would recommend using nylon insert lock nuts to keep them from coming loose.
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Originally posted by Orig88GT-NC:

Like said, Nut & Bolts are the way to go...I would recommend using nylon insert lock nuts to keep them from coming loose.


Completely agree if someone goes the nuts and bolts route.

I had to fix someone's door when their window fell down inside of it.
A previous "fixer" used nuts and bolts that all shook loose and completely disappeared from inside the door!
We used rivets.

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Big rivets work but no point getting new ones and install tool for most DIY.

Many small bolts/nuts have too small heads and need washers to clamp better and/or to protect the parts. Add lock washers or equiv too for some joists.
Just buy a box w/ bolt/nut of different size and washer kit too from HF Ace etc. Any leftovers can use on other things and takes next to nothing to store.

Just watch for extra threads don't hit/bind when window moves up/down.

 
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Like said, Nut & Bolts are the way to go...I would recommend using nylon insert lock nuts to keep them from coming loose.
Nyloc nuts are a brand name but now most common name for them.

Loctite Blue on small hardware is often = Red and Won't come off again if you need to work on whatever days to years later. Make sure you have spares before removing them.

Loctite 222 Purple made for small/weak parts but hard or impossible to find at most local stores.

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