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Citation knuckle same as Fiero 84-87? by Daniel H
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Report this Post03-11-2023 12:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel HSend a Private Message to Daniel HEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey, guys!

I have a question here:
I have some troubles with rear wheels alignment and think there might be problems with knuckle, cause the rear subframe on my car is from another car which had accident when rear right wheel was damaged. So I think knuckle might be deformed.

Found here local junkyard which have Chevrolet Citation right knuckle in stock. Part numbers looks the same as Fiero.
Is it the exact same part a will fit Fiero?

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Report this Post03-11-2023 10:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for steve308Send a Private Message to steve308Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
...checking Mr. Google that leads to a number of part number interchanges, they do indicate it fits Fiero except the 1988 year.

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Report this Post03-11-2023 01:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Honestly, I would like to be corrected if I'm wrong, but I don't think other GM cars at that time have the exact
cradle, control arms, sway bar, springs, etc of the 84-87 fiero. The designs the same.

As for your knuckles, if the part number is the same as the fiero, yes, it's the same part.
GM doesn't make parts that differ a vehicle with same part number.
That's why its very handy to have part numbers to ID parts from the GM line from car to car.
Parts like bearings, bushing, tie-rods, ball joints, etc, will be the same as long as you have the same exact
part number. We know for suspension parts (steel parts) were 88 fiero specific. No knuckle was shared on any other GM car.
as for the 84 front lower control arm, it was different than the 85-87 models. But, it still fit the same, was just different
in appearance.

We hear that the press would mention that the 84-87 had Chevette suspension, but I think it was like bushings, ball joints,
84-87 bearings and rotors, might? and tie-rods. Not sure of the exact specs of the steering rack. Although, those years
could of had shared the front and rear knuckles.

Report back if you find out its the same part number for your knuckle your talking about. That will give valuable information
to us and this board for future reference.

Again, if the part number is the same, the part is the same.

Thanks for sharing and bringing this up.

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Report this Post03-11-2023 06:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
How did you find a Chevy Citation in Russia?? Wow....

It's like me trying to find a Volga sedan here... Or a Trabant! Coolest car ever!
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Actually the cradle was orig from a Citation….it had a 2.8 in the X-RAY version , just flipped and moved to the rear.. not sure if the knuckles are the same though.
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Originally posted by PhatMax:

Actually the cradle was orig from a Citation….it had a 2.8 in the X-RAY version , just flipped and moved to the rear.. not sure if the knuckles are the same though.

The low output V6 was available in all Citation models. And no flipping of the cradle. Was simply moved to the rear with some modifications. I can confirm at least the ‘84 Citation knuckles are identical to early Fiero parts.

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Report this Post03-11-2023 11:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
And also I want to add, my point was if the citation cradle and other parts from the chevette a direct bolt in ?
And if the citation cradle is listed as the same GM part number as the 84-87 Fiero, it’s the same part.

I don’t suspect that’s the case.

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Originally posted by PhatMax:

Actually the cradle was orig from a Citation….it had a 2.8 in the X-RAY version , just flipped and moved to the rear.. not sure if the knuckles are the same though.


Not the case. It is a similar design, not flipped 180, but used completely different side rails, cross members and attachment locations. The Citation front and Fiero rear cradles are completely different from each other and not interchangable.
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Report this Post03-12-2023 09:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel HSend a Private Message to Daniel HEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by cam-a-lot:

How did you find a Chevy Citation in Russia?? Wow....

It's like me trying to find a Volga sedan here... Or a Trabant! Coolest car ever!


I’m also surprised that I found some parts from Citation here. Never saw one.

And most wondering it is not an existence of Citation in Russia, but fact it exist on this junkyard. Most of junkyards don’t take any old, and rare cars, because no one never need their parts due to these cars absence. Because I think there is very few of Citation in whole country.

Existence of a Citation in Russia it’s not surprise. American cars was always a dream car for soviet people since “American National Exhibition” in Moscow 1959. Because Soviet industry produced just few models for decades versus American industry which release new models every year. And when in 90-s Soviet Union is fell apart (together with Iron Curtain) people achieved opportunity to import foreign cars. So in 90-s a lot of American, European and Japanese cars was imported. Most of imported cars was used, so there was a lot of different cars from 80-s. But by now most of them long ago worked out their resources and departed to scrapyards.

So, see an old American car in Russia is not so surprising instead of see a Russian car in United States.

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Report this Post03-29-2023 05:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel HSend a Private Message to Daniel HEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

So, guys, here is the news:

I bought that knuckle from Chevy Citation on a Junkyard,



but at a time it was delivering, I had occasion to buy knuckles and struts from Fiero 84-87.



And we have opportunity to compare them.
I had disassembled both knuckles and found they're absolutely the same.







Numbers on cast is matching.



Citation knuckle had less rust so i cleaned it with disc wire brush, so now it looks almost like new.



Hope it was helpful and interesting experience.
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