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vacuum pipes by itzikbns
Started on: 07-13-2024 05:52 AM
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Report this Post07-13-2024 05:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for itzikbnsSend a Private Message to itzikbnsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hello,
I have two pipes that I don't know where they should be connected to :
1. A vacuum pipe at the EGR solonoid


2.A pipe that runes in the back of the engine, I think coming from the fuel regulator and just ends there

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Hey itzikbns,
ALWAYS start with a model/engine when asking questions!

As I found out that you have a 2.8L......

 
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1. A vacuum pipe at the EGR solenoid

See photo below

EDIT: As your photo 2, please show more than the line only in the blue circle...


As few photos for the vacuum lines:







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Original Owner of a Silver '88 GT
Under 'Production Refurbishment' @ 136k Miles

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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:

Hey itzikbns,
ALWAYS start with a model/engine when asking questions!

As I found out that you have a 2.8L......

See photo below

As photo 2, please show more than the line only......

As few photos for the vacuum lines:







quick question related to the diagrams. where does the cruise control and its canister get vacuum from?
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where does the cruise control and its canister get vacuum from?


From a tee of the fuel canister line

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Report this Post07-13-2024 04:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

A simple Google image search for "Fiero EGR solenoid" turned up this gem of a post.

 
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Originally posted by buddycraigg Here:

this is where all the hoses plug in to

There is a short hose that connects the side port and the line going to the vacuum sensor. This hose isn't made of normal vacuum line and rots out badly.




The fresh air port on the back of the solenoid is suppose to have a hose that goes to this metal line on the firewall.




If you ever wondered why they didn't simply remove the large pipe that use to go to the valve cover when they did the recall, that's because it's attached to the small line.

big pipe with GREEN arrows.
small pipe with RED arrows






And finally the small line connected to the air cleaner.






The hard plastic lines connected to the solenoid.


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Report this Post07-14-2024 10:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Vintage-NutSend a Private Message to Vintage-NutEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I edited the GM vacuum diagram as a complete drawing with ALL of this information........

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Report this Post07-14-2024 11:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for itzikbnsSend a Private Message to itzikbnsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thank you all amazing people, really helpful, I fixed the solonoid pipe, don't know how did I missed it... I will find the connection in the back for the smaller pipe...but if it is only grease air than I might even leave it like that

currently I am a little stuck with water pump removal, I removed all the bolts and nuts, placed them over at the new pump hols and they are all filled but the pup is still stuck...
Any ideas?
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Report this Post07-14-2024 12:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Vintage-NutSend a Private Message to Vintage-NutEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Look at this recent thread:

Water pump Replacement advice? by Kitskaboodle
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/100709.html
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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:

Look at this recent thread:

Water pump Replacement advice? by Kitskaboodle
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/100709.html


TX,
I got a lot of helpful information from that posts, one of it me sion the need to disassemble more bolts, using a fiber optic I have located two additional bolts on the lower side of the pump, please see image below, I took out the one marked blue but the pump is still rock solid, I will remove the other one tomorrow and see if it would help, as I understood the pump should get off without too much force

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12 Bolts on the V6 Water Pump


And YES - double checked that you removed 12 bolts and then do not force the pump off as only the gasket is holding it.......
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Originally posted by itzikbns:

I will remove the other one tomorrow and see if it would help...


There's no need to guess which bolts are the water pump bolts. If you start removing unnecessary bolts, you're liable to be loosening the timing chain cover, which could lead to all sorts of leakage issues.

I hope you at least installed the clamp before loosening/removing the water pump bolts.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

There's no need to guess which bolts are the water pump bolts. If you start removing unnecessary bolts, you're liable to be loosening the timing chain cover, which could lead to all sorts of leakage issues.

I hope you at least installed the clamp before loosening/removing the water pump bolts.

CLICK FOR FULL SIZE



I did not. I have it in the new water pump kit and I didn't know what is it for, can you please elaborate more on the use, The water pump is still rock solid in place

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Originally posted by itzikbns:

I did not. I have it in the new water pump kit and I didn't know what is it for, can you please elaborate more on the use...


You've been supplied links, which in turn have further links within. Have you not been making use of these resources?
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HELP....
I rechecked that all the pump bolts and nuts are out, the pump is still stock rock solid! any ideas?
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